eBay chatboard archive: Dec-21-06 to Dec-24-06 week (short)

Posted by billsey   ( 838 ) on Dec-24-06 at 23:18:39 PST   Listings
Merry Christmas to all, unless Happy Hanukkah or some other winter solstice festival is appropriate. :-)

[anticipating midnight by a bit...]
Posted by magnoliastamps   ( 51 ) on Dec-24-06 at 22:59:55 PST   Listings

Merry Christmas

Glad to see that some things never change! ( sosdd )

John

Posted by antonius-ra   ( 615 ) on Dec-24-06 at 22:53:54 PST   Listings
Thanks all for the puppy and dog blessings. It's been a bad couple years for dog fatalities around here. I do hope this new little kid will last a long time. The gray cat is our buddy Cosmo, he really thinks he's a dog.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 615 ) on Dec-24-06 at 22:44:20 PST   Listings
Paul Would you please inform us as to the time of D.B.'s post where he said "GOLD was robbered in 1855"
He makes some typing errors but I'm sure he would never ever say "robbered" I just can't seem to find that date (1855)?
I can only assume it's the same old story of not understanding what has been written.
Posted by abt1950   ( 221 ) on Dec-24-06 at 22:24:48 PST   Listings
silent_films: Kiloware and mixtures can be a lot of fun. It's also a way of getting used copies of a lot of recent stamps. Not all mixtures are created equal, however. Here's a very good guide to buying mixtures on eBay. Enjoy!

Good night to all and to all sweet dreams of housebreaking hounds, querulous posters, and A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL!!!. Anne

Posted by 85719   ( 2 ) on Dec-24-06 at 22:00:52 PST   Listings
Wow! I took a nap this afternoon and had the strangest dream. I dreamt I saw this on the chatboard:














Posted by


stamps12345

  ( 222 )
on Dec-23-06
at 07:45:30 PST
 

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You know, I’m really sorry to everyone for being so rude and derogatory. My New Year’s resolutions include—
  1. Learning to spell
  2. Learning the rudiments of English grammar and punctuation
  3. I will not brag anymore.
  4. I will not be jealous or defensive when those who have studied subjects longer than I have offer opinions that differ from mine.
  5. I will not cadge information off the Internet and offer it up without understanding what is being said.
  6. I will not call people on the chatboard names.
  7. I will not insult what other people collect



Ah, but then I woke up…

Posted by not-the-stairs-man   ( 2 ) on Dec-24-06 at 22:00:29 PST   Listings
Quite a sand storm blowing out of Australia this Christmas: Must be that time of the month. Zip up tight tonight or seven months of the boorish Aussie postings may follow (along with the locusts, roos and other bad things.......)
Posted by de66   ( 1026 ) on Dec-24-06 at 21:56:00 PST   Listings
Happy Holidays

Q for Queensland

http://www.revenuesociety.org.uk/invited-displays/qld-bob/frame1.html

D1
Posted by stamps12345   ( 222 ) on Dec-24-06 at 21:24:40 PST   Listings
DAVID B. ----READ WHAT YOU POSTED ....GOLD was robbered in 1855
Posted by stamps12345   ( 222 ) on Dec-24-06 at 21:21:41 PST   Listings
SILENT FILMS ----Sorry about the distrubtion ,some regulars here only know how to bark........but back to your question ....Kilo ware and packets are a great way to start and learn the subject .This hobby is one were you can learn a lot and still keep cost down ,so buy what you can affort and enjoy it .If you need extra help stop in and better yet stop in let us all know how your doing ....paul
Posted by stamps12345   ( 222 ) on Dec-24-06 at 21:17:25 PST   Listings
ANOTHER----Lap dog barking can't believe these clowns ,when are they going to talk about Mail Tags and stop negative comments ......Do they know the subject or are they just barking .....please someone tell them if your not adding to the discussion stop the negative remarks
Posted by nomad55   ( 841 ) on Dec-24-06 at 21:14:47 PST   Listings
The soft glow of electric sex
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/nomad55/leglamp.jpg
--- Jean Shepherd

May the Christmas Bunny bring you plenty of tidbits and goodies
--- nomad

Merry Christmas to all and to all a Good Night
--- C.C. Moore
Posted by silent_films   ( 131 ) on Dec-24-06 at 21:07:29 PST   Listings
How do you feel about buying kiloware or mixed lots of mostly modern stamps? It's kind of fun for me, I was buying the Harris & Co grab bag 'Super Value', but thought I would buy some here. Obviously I enjoy stamps and am not a serious collector. I wish that I worked for a large company and clip stamps, but alas I work in the health care field. I have a couple of people who clip stamps and send them to me. :)
Posted by dbenson   ( 7659 ) on Dec-24-06 at 21:01:09 PST   Listings
ps. before I go, the British Great Train Robbery was in 1965 not 1855 and I never said that the attached parcel was a sack, it would have been something much more secure and most probably metal,

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7659 ) on Dec-24-06 at 20:59:23 PST   Listings
Paul, I agree, this argument is senseless, it is a shame that you brought it up in the first place when you said that only the paperwork was sent and not items of actual value.

Heading out,

David B.
Posted by jaywild   ( 893 ) on Dec-24-06 at 20:56:44 PST   Listings
Paul… If you are interested in a new start, perhaps you could provide it yourself by dropping the subject.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs

Posted by stamps12345   ( 222 ) on Dec-24-06 at 20:55:00 PST   Listings
NOIP----The sillyness of the arguement is that gold bars were place in sacks with a shipping tag on it .Sure trains carried gold and yes it could be shipped by mails but it would be in a strong box with seals and locks not sacks with MAIL TAGS attached .....Most gold if moved was done by armoured carriers not mail sacks geeee.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 222 ) on Dec-24-06 at 20:44:49 PST   Listings
DAVID B. ---Read the article ,it says gold was stolen from the train in 1855,not from the mails and the Mail Tags that was shown here was from around 1940 ,for those lacking math thats 85 years later after the gold was stolen ........have a nice day .
Posted by jaywild   ( 893 ) on Dec-24-06 at 20:43:30 PST   Listings
wrd3… Normally I can be bribed, provided the inducement is sweet enough, but no, you earned your gold star fair and square!

J

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs

Posted by stamps12345   ( 222 ) on Dec-24-06 at 20:38:51 PST   Listings
ED845 ----Merry Christmas ,haven't seen your sarcastic statements to me for a while,your posting doesn't help explain the mail tags .Thought we were going into the new year with a new attitude here but guess not .
Posted by dbenson   ( 7659 ) on Dec-24-06 at 20:34:22 PST   Listings
Paul, it's not Xmas Eve, it's Xmas Day and I am going out in an hour for a birthday party,

did you get around to reading the article about the 1965 Great Train Robbery, you might have to retract some of your comments about the transportation of Gold Bullion in England, waiting for your apology but presume it will never come.

I also enjoyed your story about the transhipment, you have a good imagination and was a good way to try to make sense of your comments but you failed,

better luck next time,

DB 2 Paul zip, that makes for the year about DB 50 and Paul still zip.
Posted by jaywild   ( 893 ) on Dec-24-06 at 20:30:08 PST   Listings
Anne… They should make those Iraqi banknotes with perforations, so they can still be used after Iraq fragments into Sunni-, Shia- and Kurdish-controlled regions.

J

Mitch… Sorry to hear about Wolfgang. I know how it is. That is one super picture of him, with his little feline pal.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs

Posted by stamps12345   ( 222 ) on Dec-24-06 at 20:28:19 PST   Listings
DAVID B. ---Thats a inappropriate remark its Christmas eve try not to start a fight . Gave my opinion and don't need the remarks biting back at me ........Hey my team won,took the wife out on a date,and my daughters gave me the best presents and finish a pile of S/S ,all mounted on album pages ,its a good day ....Merry Christmas
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3272 ) on Dec-24-06 at 20:26:47 PST   Listings
Hi Mitch That's a great time when they are all feet.

In 1971 we acquired a german shepherd at 6 months or so, owners were moving to an apartment. We named him Ludwig after the King of Bavaria.

I noticed the gray cat in the pic of Wolfgang. We currently have a similar gray, we named him Earl, after Earl of Greystoke, due to his color.

My first 1-cent purchase of the year and the shipping isn't a ripoff.

We had our Christmas dinner today, small family gathering, most are spread out all over the place. My contribution was a duckling.

Returned home today and found 4 newborn goats, 2 are twins with one iffy as the mother is only recognizing the first one born. We lost a newborn on Tuesday as the mother was a first timer, had never seen any others of the herd bear, and didn't have a clue what to do.

Jeff

Posted by abt1950   ( 221 ) on Dec-24-06 at 19:53:29 PST   Listings
Ant-ra: That's one sweet puppy you've got there. May the winter be mild enough for housebreaking.

Anne
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 615 ) on Dec-24-06 at 19:31:32 PST   Listings

Jeff et al is for Pup, Pup2. He should turn out to look much like his predecessor wolfgang
He makes a great Xmas present.
Posted by billsey   ( 838 ) on Dec-24-06 at 19:08:02 PST   Listings
Power is back on and the web site has been updated with the corrections... :-)
Posted by dbenson   ( 7659 ) on Dec-24-06 at 18:55:00 PST   Listings
Paul, your reply confused me

simple answer ------No the goods were coming into England .A trading house/ mercantile company/commodity firm received the trans ocean shippment and then put the goods into the Royal Mail to go to the correct business/place .Thats why the addilitional info was crossed out so as not to confuse the mail clerks ,like it confused others here .

then I realised that you had left out " ton " after the word simple,

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7659 ) on Dec-24-06 at 18:52:59 PST   Listings
Anne, more interesting is the category it is in,

Stamps > United States > Back of Book > Duck Stamps

David B.
Posted by abt1950   ( 221 ) on Dec-24-06 at 18:32:56 PST   Listings
Now that's interesting. The link says the listing's been removed. However I can still bring it up elsewhere. Let's try again: HERE Make some money investing in Iraqi Dinars, which will eventually go up. Yeah, right. Anne
Posted by abt1950   ( 221 ) on Dec-24-06 at 18:29:11 PST   Listings
Anyone want to make a quick buck? This one's been clogging up my searches for awhile.

Anne
Posted by dbenson   ( 7659 ) on Dec-24-06 at 17:48:48 PST   Listings
Ed, no, that was for a different reason entirely, that was because there was no duty on cigars & cigarettes in Jersay & Guernsey & buying them from there evaded British Tobacco Tax.

Paul, I am waiting for your comments on the article I linked to which mentions the theft of Gold Bullion & insured mail in 1963.

I think this discussion has gone far enough, I will repeat my original comment which covered the important philatelic aspoects of the items,

" they are Parcel Tags which were attached to the heavy parcels. They were often used for extremely valuable items such as Gold bars and the high rate incorporated the postage & insurance charges ".

continuing this any further isn't going to get anywhere especially as the destination of the parcel tags is unknown,

David B.
Posted by wrd3   ( 99 ) on Dec-24-06 at 17:46:47 PST   Listings
The discussion about mailing gold reminded me of an American Philatelist article by Ken Lawrence regarding shipment of gold from Alaska using the US mail system. The discussion prompted me to refresh my memory as to what Ken wrote (I finally found the article in the July 2004 issue). Gold was indeed shipped from Alaska using the US mail system - in fact there was a special rate established specifically for gold from Alaska (didn't include other commodities, nor other origination locations). Quoting a January 1, 1914 order: "The rate of postage on gold coin, gold bullion, and gold dust offered for mailing between any two points in Alaska, or between any point in Alaska and any point in the United States or its possessions...". So various forms of gold were covered by the order. Near the end of the article, Ken states "Approximately 30 million ounces of gold have been mined in Alaska since the 1880s, more than two thirds of the total from placer deposits. A large percentage of it, perhaps a majority, was shipped out by mail."

I know the previous discussion on the board isn't relative to shipments from Alaska, but I thought the article was interesting and wanted to share a bit of it.

Bill D.
Posted by ed845   ( 4235 ) on Dec-24-06 at 17:43:04 PST   Listings
stamps12345:

If you knew anything about how goods were shipped around the UK at that time you would have known that it was not the post office that moved them but the railway companies.
Stick to what you know not what you think you know.

Ed
Posted by ed845   ( 4235 ) on Dec-24-06 at 17:39:31 PST   Listings
infla-alec

Alec. David B is partly correct. Those labels were also used to move currency, say from banks in the Channel Islands back to England. One of the reasons why so many Seahorses are seen with CI postmarks. The procedure just continued with GVI.

Ed
Posted by stamps12345   ( 222 ) on Dec-24-06 at 17:39:01 PST   Listings
simple answer ------No the goods were coming into England .A trading house/ mercantile company/commodity firm received the trans ocean shippment and then put the goods into the Royal Mail to go to the correct business/place .Thats why the addilitional info was crossed out so as not to confuse the mail clerks ,like it confused others here .

HO HO HO --------THE CHICAGO BEARS WIN AGAIN ....HO HO HO ......got everything i wanted for Christmas ,can we show presents .....

Posted by dbenson   ( 7659 ) on Dec-24-06 at 17:12:03 PST   Listings
Alec,

this may answer a few the queries about Post Office valuable insured mail,

http://www.btp.police.uk/History%20Society/Publications/History%20Society/Crime%20on%20line/The%20Great%20Train%20Robbery.htm

David B.
Posted by billsey   ( 838 ) on Dec-24-06 at 17:01:13 PST   Listings
Bill D. I'll be happy to make those changes. Right at the moment, we're having power troubles down at the coast again (power's been out about an hour so far in Rockaway, Nehalem and Manzanita in northern Tillamook county) so I'll have to wait for a bit before I can post the changes.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7659 ) on Dec-24-06 at 17:00:52 PST   Listings
Alec, unless there is a clue of where they were sent the actual usage will remain a mystery.

I wonder what trade there would have been between England & Westmann Islands.

The other interesting aspect is that none appear to have used perfins which would have been common usage from a large company, have any of the others in the horde have perfins, that may also give a clue. Another interesting aspect is that they may have been returned to the sender or they would have been dispersed worldwide,

David B.
Posted by infla-alec   ( 486 ) on Dec-24-06 at 16:57:27 PST   Listings
Like I said no need to argue the point any further. I'm happy enough to know it was a valuable commodity of some sort and will leave it at that unless someone can prove different. I mean both points made by Paul and David have some logic to them. Who knows they both could be right.But unless someone actually has some literature on the subject or knows a specialist of such things I'd rather the subject was dropped for the time being.
I'll be off to bed now and see you all after Santa has been :-)
Merry Christmas and seasonal greetings to all.
Posted by infla-alec   ( 486 ) on Dec-24-06 at 16:50:54 PST   Listings
Lucky enough non of the tags show Volcanoes, Bridges, Nudes, Putney, Triangles, Perfins, Pre-cancels or are dated Oct 5th so that is a few less arguments for the board to have :-)
Posted by infla-alec   ( 486 ) on Dec-24-06 at 16:44:18 PST   Listings
The bunch of tags I have which number about 30 are different. Some have the words like Columbia, Stockholm Norway, Cape Verde Islands, etc deleted and others have nothing at all. For sure the original use of the tags seems to have been for printed papers possibly going Airmail. But no idea why that part of the tag would have been what looks like having been inked out before the stamps were applied. I don't think there is a connection between the tags with place names on and those without.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7659 ) on Dec-24-06 at 16:43:49 PST   Listings
Paul, do you believe in Coals to Newcastle ,

Britain sending heavy parcels of Coffee to Colombia, heavy parcels of ore to Iceland and heavy parcels of wool to French Congo,

David B.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 222 ) on Dec-24-06 at 16:38:02 PST   Listings
commodities ,is the link coffee,wool and ore samples
Posted by infla-alec   ( 486 ) on Dec-24-06 at 16:35:00 PST   Listings
Before IO/Jim corrects me it should be definite. Sorry Jim no excuse on my part as you corrected me once before on that spelling.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7659 ) on Dec-24-06 at 16:34:43 PST   Listings
Alec, it's OK, I made it out, it is Brazzaville which at that time was in the French Congo, I wonder what the link between the three are,

David B.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 222 ) on Dec-24-06 at 16:33:16 PST   Listings
DAVID B. ---If its Columbia ,ask Juan Valdez
Posted by dbenson   ( 7659 ) on Dec-24-06 at 16:32:15 PST   Listings
Alec, what is the inscription on the 3rd. item,

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7659 ) on Dec-24-06 at 16:31:32 PST   Listings
Alec, Westmann Islands is off the coast of Iceland,

David B.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 222 ) on Dec-24-06 at 16:30:15 PST   Listings
valuable commodity tag =====bulk commodity tag ??????????????????????? not the same
Posted by dbenson   ( 7659 ) on Dec-24-06 at 16:30:00 PST   Listings
Alec, I just noticed that your tags have an inscription on the stamp sides at the top, they have been deleted,

to Westmann Islands, to Colombia and another one that is illegible, that may give a clue to what the parcels contained,

David B.
Posted by infla-alec   ( 486 ) on Dec-24-06 at 16:27:06 PST   Listings
David That is the trouble there is no address written on any of them. The only part of any cancel I can make out is London and 14 at the base with possibly the letters PB below that. I am guessing but I'd have thought some sort of customs cancellation.
I think we ALL agree it is a valuable commodity tag of some sort so lets leave it at that unless someone can throw more definate light on the subject.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7659 ) on Dec-24-06 at 16:26:42 PST   Listings
Paul, wait until you have seen what is on the other side of the tag before making definite comments what the tag was used for. I doubt if large wool shipments sent goods by Parcel Post they would have gone by a freight company. Insured small valuable items were sent by the mail system which was more reliable and quicker,

David B.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 222 ) on Dec-24-06 at 16:23:36 PST   Listings
DAVID B. ----Don't limit yourself to Australian Gold Parcel Tags ,try looking for both Wool Merchants and Mining Companies shipping samples and testing samples to customers or labitories ,remember its for bulk shipments .Maybe some others are a ware of samples being sent from outer reach Post Offices or small towns ....paul
Posted by stamps12345   ( 222 ) on Dec-24-06 at 16:16:58 PST   Listings
INFLA-ALEC-----The system of vault receipts was used in Europe for hundreds of years .Transfer of gold are done between central banks and large mercantile banks .No it was not moved in sacks thru the mail .Commodity merchants shipped sacks of items which had a postal tag attched ,possibily a group had only one tag ,not sure what the British system rules were .The U.S. P.O. required a seperate tag on each sack just in case of seperation .But back to your original question its a tag for a bulk shipment
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3272 ) on Dec-24-06 at 16:15:19 PST   Listings
Alec & Paul - thanks for the tag posts I personally love things like this.

The alphabet listings have been a highlight of this board, there have been a lot of interesting and informative items posted, and a few which I could care less about, but that's the nature of a cross section of interests.

I have not had time to participate in all of them, but look forward to it continuing.

Mitch - did you get back with the new pup?

Best whishes to all in the spirit of Christmas

Jeff

Posted by dbenson   ( 7659 ) on Dec-24-06 at 16:11:31 PST   Listings
Alec, the address on the other side may give a clue what the parcel contained,

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7659 ) on Dec-24-06 at 16:10:19 PST   Listings
Pul, I don't want to get into another useless argument with you but Gold Bullion was regularly shipped using the Post Office with the parcel tags attached to the carefully wrapped shipment. There is no way of knowing what those particular tags were attached to unless the address may give some clue to what it was. I will try to find some links to Australian Gold Parcel tags,

David B.
Posted by infla-alec   ( 486 ) on Dec-24-06 at 15:57:34 PST   Listings
Paul Thanks for the input also. Though around the time of King George VI I'm pretty sure Gold and other valuable heavy objects were moved around the UK by train. I was thinking along the lines of Gold being brought back into the UK from overseas which I think was something we would have ben doing after the war .
If the parcel tags were indeed for items like Coffee then why no normal type of parcel or post office cancel ? I'm not saying you are wrong or anything like that. The whole thing is a mystery to me so all input is much appreciated.

I agree it is safe to say they are indeed some sort of valuable cargo parcel tag but I'd love to know for certain what they were used to carry. I mean nearly £5 postage in those days was one hell of a lot of money. I say those days but it could be anything from the mid 30's right up to the 50's as the stamps were valid up until then if I recall correctly.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 222 ) on Dec-24-06 at 15:49:39 PST   Listings
OLATANO------Your question about which album to use would need more clearification before a answer can be given .What are you trying to collect ,if worldwide ,what time period ,are you collecting S/S ,do you want to make pages.

The Scott International are really a junior internationals.The printed set has all kinds of mistakes and interruptions.

Most collectors make their own pages ,this saves cost ,space and you can customize it to what you want ....paul

Posted by iomoon   ( 1036 ) on Dec-24-06 at 15:29:35 PST   Listings
Ok,

the only other Q volcano I can find at the moment,
Q is for Quill.
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1153 ) on Dec-24-06 at 15:08:44 PST   Listings
prochute et al

I’ve enjoyed seeing what others are showing and showing of some of the oddments I’ve gathered over the years. What I’d suggest is that we do 0-9 and then begin with “A” again. This time attempting to not show repeat items.
Or, we could try and make every post a double letter “AA” as some have already done.

Either of these would be more difficult for me, as so far I’ve tried to include a scan of at least one item for the letter of the week for every post I put up on the board.



In keeping with the "Q" theme:
Indiana has a hand full of towns that start with the letter “Q.” But, this is the only one I’ve found.

Quincy
, Indiana. This one’s from a 2X4 :8^ (.

Jim L.

Blast those HTML errors :8^ (
Posted by stamps12345   ( 222 ) on Dec-24-06 at 15:06:23 PST   Listings
INFLA-ALEC ----Those tags you shown are for bulk mailing sacks. They are for large or bulk commodities that are shipped thru the mails .They are used by merchants like for shipping wool,coffee and tea. Those type of tags are also used for ore samples being shipped for testing .But its safe to say they are for bulk commodities ,here are sample from my collection MAIL TAGS.

Gold bars are not shipped in sacks thru regular mail ,all gold especially bars thru England are mover by Bearer Negotiatable Receipts {BNR}.The bars stay at the banks or depository and just the paper{BNR} moves around the world .Basicly the gold moves only a few feet or up and down the block between banks .....paul

Posted by infla-alec   ( 486 ) on Dec-24-06 at 14:51:17 PST   Listings
David B Thanks. That is much more information than I had before. As per usual one day they'll get around to be being listed. Though if you do care to have one as an example feel free to ask. I have plenty and can spare one I'm sure
Posted by wrd3   ( 99 ) on Dec-24-06 at 14:47:49 PST   Listings
jaywild I'm glad my post on perfins was interesting to some. Thank you for the honor of judging the "Q" entries. Hopefully my offer of the Oct 5, 1996 cover didn't influence your vote (by the way - it went in the mail Thursday, so should be there next week). Maybe my post will induce someone to get serious about perfins - I can always hope.


prochute I'm not sure what you have against the "A-Z" showing. I haven't seen any "mine is better than yours" postings - they've been interesting, informative postings, sometimes showing the poster's ingenuity in linking to the letter of the week. Nothing in my post was scarce or hard to acquire, other than the block of R116 / R116A which, although scarce (unique as far as I know), was picked up in a lot costing less than $8.00, I believe. The most expensive item in that post was the French cow, which I picked up for $20.00 from someone who specializes in French perfins. The postings have been infinitely more interesting than the bickering that goes on sometimes. And you can always skip the "A-Z" posts.

billsey there were 2 typos in my post. Could you edit it to correct (if not I can post a corrected version)? I'm missing two ")" ...... one in the paragraph following the table, where it should say "pattern doesn't matter))." and the other in the paragraph about the R116 / R116A block, where it should say "left two stamps have R116A)."

Bill D.


Posted by dbenson   ( 7659 ) on Dec-24-06 at 14:43:18 PST   Listings
Alec, the cancels were made of rubber (at least the part that made the impression was). They were usually used on awkward parcels that normal steel cancels were difficult to decipher as the impression wasm't clear.

Unless it has the weight designated the rates would be impossible to calculate as part was for postage & part for other costs such as airmail & insurance

David B.
Posted by infla-alec   ( 486 ) on Dec-24-06 at 14:36:44 PST   Listings
David B Thanks for that snippet.So would the cancel be some sort of customs type ? Any idea how the rate was calculated ?
Posted by dbenson   ( 7659 ) on Dec-24-06 at 14:26:28 PST   Listings
Alec, they are Parcel Tags which were attached to the heavy parcels. They were often used for extremely valuable items such as Gold bars and the high rate incorporated the postage & insurance charges,

David B.
Posted by billsey   ( 837 ) on Dec-24-06 at 14:18:59 PST   Listings
And my entry for the Qs has been seen here before. This Full Face Queen is one of the nicest I have... The rest are mostly here. Note the later pages with both First Side Face Queens and Second Side Face Queens.
Posted by billsey   ( 837 ) on Dec-24-06 at 14:09:52 PST   Listings
Thanks Bill C for that repost of the first week's winner. I've updated the web page to reflect the additional info.

If anyone else can help to fill in those few missing entries early on, please let me know.
Posted by infla-alec   ( 486 ) on Dec-24-06 at 13:47:17 PST   Listings
Congratulations also to wrd/Bill on being nominated as "Q" weeks judge jury and executioner :-). Thanks also to Jaywild/Jim for doing the honours last week.
Bill C Excellent material and rarely do you ever get to see so much of it in one collection.
Posted by infla-alec   ( 486 ) on Dec-24-06 at 13:42:41 PST   Listings
Eureka I have a Queer But can anyone tell me please what they are ? Or even hazard a guess. I at first thought some sort of parcel card labels but the cancel is nothing like any parcel cancels I have ever seen before. I have a bundle of such labels and all seem to be franked with between 4 & 9 of the 10/- stamps, which would to me seem to be a very high franking for that period.
Posted by abt1950   ( 221 ) on Dec-24-06 at 12:26:32 PST   Listings
Afternoon/evening/morning from on sunny, bright NJ where it is now Erev Xmas. ("Erev" is a Hebrew word meaning "eve of, the day before"). A very merry Christmas to all.

jaywild: Thanks for the honorable mention. wrd3 is indeed a good choice. I, for one, really appreciated the perfin primer.

Q is going to be a real challenge, as will Z.

prochute: Having a weekly theme is good for everyone. It prompts people to post stuff in areas that might not get a lot of discussion otherwise. The posts give a lot of insight into different ways of collecting too. Besides, what's wrong with showing off occasionally?

soggy: I'm still working on my interpostal seals and pulling my hair out in the process. They do show up occasionally on eBay, often as singles. Egypt wasn't the only country to use interpostal seals--Iran did too. I didn't know this until the auction turned up on one of my searches.

Anne (currently struggling with positioning circles and text boxes on pages in Print Shop.
Posted by claghorn1p   ( 408 ) on Dec-24-06 at 12:23:29 PST   Listings
Billsey

ABC Show Infla-Alec

Here is some information about your beloved Germany whose name starts with the letter A at least in Spanish.

Here are some SCADTA stamps overprinted by handstamp to indicate that they were to be used in Germany. The handstamps are particularly uncommon.

Here are the machine overprints mint and here are some used and to make it complete is the three peso sheet for use in Germany.

SCADTA was a German air company providing contract air mail service within Colombia. THere was a need to allow foreign incoming mail to use the internal SCADTA service so stamps were provided to overseas customers to pre-pay for this service. The stamps of the foreign country provided carriage overseas to Colombia and the SCADTA stamps provided air mail service within Colombia. Here is an example of a cover from Germany showing this usage.

Forgery Identification Site

The German Michel catalog lists all the overprints and varieties. Different overprints were needed for each country as exchange rates for foreign countries varied and the country overprints were used to keep the speculators away.

Posted by mini*lindy   ( 303 ) on Dec-24-06 at 12:22:49 PST   Listings
David, we all asked Santa for that rain... and he brought it in buckets last night, even some hail at 6am to make a white christmas!
Posted by olatano   ( 105 ) on Dec-24-06 at 12:19:53 PST   Listings
Billsey, thanks for the info. I was looking at some of these site but theres just too much to choose from. Also ur never really sure with the internet....
olatano
Posted by dbenson   ( 7659 ) on Dec-24-06 at 12:18:18 PST   Listings
Lindy,

no wonder most Sydneysiders head north for Chrissie holidays and not south,

http://www.wunderground.com/global/stations/94868.html

David B.
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 303 ) on Dec-24-06 at 12:16:50 PST   Listings
hahah Good Morning David !!
Posted by dbenson   ( 7659 ) on Dec-24-06 at 12:14:38 PST   Listings
Lindy, why would I say anything when a report can say it all for me,

http://www.wunderground.com/global/stations/94767.html

20C. at 7AM,

David B.
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 303 ) on Dec-24-06 at 12:06:55 PST   Listings
JayJim..no 100F ---(I translated it into american for you!) today its 8C/46F at 7am - I just checked with the weather bureau. Oh David will be happy, its probably much warmer in Sydney and he'll be able to remind me how lovely Sydney is and how not-so-lovely Melbourne is. (big inter city rivalry between Melb and Sydney), and I don't need reminding, I was born and grew up there, only been in Melbourne for 26 years.
Posted by jaywild   ( 893 ) on Dec-24-06 at 12:06:06 PST   Listings
Q… is for Queen Creek, Arizona, featuring the 4c Lincoln precanceled with the same color ink.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs

Posted by claghorn1p   ( 408 ) on Dec-24-06 at 12:04:10 PST   Listings
olatano A good comprehensive album is the Scott Brown Album reprints. You can get the two volume set 1840-1900 and more for later years. The nice thing about those is that the pages are printed on only one side.
Posted by billsey   ( 837 ) on Dec-24-06 at 11:57:45 PST   Listings
BTW, as always, I've captured this week's winner on the eUSC web site here. I liked the perfin post so much I saved it locally, not knowing it would be this week's winner! :-)
Posted by billsey   ( 837 ) on Dec-24-06 at 11:53:24 PST   Listings
olatano, I assume you're talking about a worldwide album. The Scott International series is far from comprehensive, they tend to leave the more expensive issues out altogether and often leave stamps out of a set to make the page fit better. The best value by far is to join up with Bill Steiner's web site and print pages yourself. They are comprehensive and are significantly cheaper than any of the pre-printed options. Buy good paper (I use 70# text weight archival paper) and use a waterfast ink (like the HP inkjets use).

For my purposes, I start with Bill's PageMaker files then add my own border and add the varieties that Scott doesn't list seperately (such as paper or perforations) before printing on outsize paper with an HP 1220 wide carriage printer. You can see some examples here.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1036 ) on Dec-24-06 at 11:51:28 PST   Listings
"Q's" are not easy to come by.
But here's Q is for Qatar (without a "u"), pronounced "cutter" by CNN news.
One of the notorious "sand dune" States.
Posted by jaywild   ( 893 ) on Dec-24-06 at 11:45:37 PST   Listings
Collectors of Linda… 100° Celsius???

J

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin sta