eBay chatboard archive: Jan-22-07 to Jan-28-07 week

Posted by malolo   ( 835 ) on Jan-28-07 at 22:59:39 PST   Listings
Jim -
No wonder Polish names seem so complicated. Your spelling looks sort of like Babbawawa, SNL.

I'm gone till tomorrow.
Posted by jaywild   ( 912 ) on Jan-28-07 at 22:57:18 PST   Listings
Roger… In Russian it’s ???????…

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by jaywild   ( 912 ) on Jan-28-07 at 22:55:38 PST   Listings
Ant-ra… Yes, count to some high number, then—namasté…

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by malolo   ( 835 ) on Jan-28-07 at 22:39:06 PST   Listings
David B -
Oui! C'est mon "mistake". Je ne parle pas en Français.

Roger
Posted by malolo   ( 835 ) on Jan-28-07 at 22:33:50 PST   Listings
Sorry - I didnt' mention that Varsovic is Warsaw, Poland. I learned that on Richard's Board a couple of years ago after purchasing the cover.

Mitchell -
Revision: 5 for capital punishment, 45 life terms. See I'm humane up to a point!

Roger
Posted by dbenson   ( 7783 ) on Jan-28-07 at 22:33:08 PST   Listings
Roger, not Varsocic, it is Varsovie, the French spelling of Warsaw,

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7783 ) on Jan-28-07 at 22:07:15 PST   Listings
vinny, no need for the scan, it is 1849 40c. Vermilion, perfectly genuine but in 10th. rate condition. It is not a reprint, not the Bordeaux printing of 1870, not the 1971 reissue perforated, not a colonial. It is cancelled with a Petite Chiffre numeral which was used between 1850 & 1860,

David B.
Posted by malolo   ( 835 ) on Jan-28-07 at 22:07:09 PST   Listings
Mitchell -

I only saw 1300 people today, about 50 made me want to invoke capital punishment, but I held off as they were leaving Kona, not arriving. LOL Some went to Seattle, some to Minnesota, a few even to the midwest, but most people were friendly and nice to deal with a real cross section of America. There are few international traveler at htis time of year.

Two "V's" -
VarsovicThis destination is rated 10 of 13 meaning 10-15 Sitting Helvetia covers known post-UPU (1875-1882).

Vorladung - A Summons always sent registered to confirm the correct person received the Summons. The period determines the rate.

Roger
Posted by vinnysf   ( 289 ) on Jan-28-07 at 22:02:56 PST   Listings
here is a better quality scan of that 1849 french stamp. any help on which issue it is would be greatly appreciated!
Posted by vinnysf   ( 289 ) on Jan-28-07 at 21:59:47 PST   Listings
dont do it antonius! stop and count to 499.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7783 ) on Jan-28-07 at 21:49:09 PST   Listings
Paul, please, just get the catalogue and read it, it is perfectly clear,

Gibbons Part 20, South America, it is in English,

David B.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 615 ) on Jan-28-07 at 21:41:30 PST   Listings
I am about to explode upon this board and resident blowhard.
Someone tell me not to or I shall quite quickly.
Jay, you should know what i'm talkin bout
Posted by jaywild   ( 912 ) on Jan-28-07 at 21:27:41 PST   Listings
Goofy Spelling of the Day… Not Planes but Plains.

J

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by antonius-ra   ( 615 ) on Jan-28-07 at 21:00:16 PST   Listings
Paul I actually have a Spanish catalog. Although I hesitate to ask what I should do with it.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 615 ) on Jan-28-07 at 20:58:29 PST   Listings
Paul You're not just saying that cuz you don't want me to have a swimming pool are you? <;~`). Yep, I'm still hanging. Wonder if they have a following in S.A.?
If they are cheapos, where are yours?
D2 I don't happen to have that. Since I'm a backwoods countryboy, I doubt any of the neighbors might have one.

Roger Hiya ole surfer King. Yep, I caught your post about New Yorkers and snide comments about us mid westerners. Well it ain't 1978
(although I wouldn't mind if it was). We do have DVR, cell phones, PC's and the like, though. I don't live in paradise, like you but I really feel sorry for them big city or any city folk. I could not stand all that mindless humanity for one day much less a lifetime. In the last two days I have seen exactly one other person (my women). It's nice and quiet and I can step out any door and take a P anytime night or day without having to ask permission or wonder what anyone else might think.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 222 ) on Jan-28-07 at 20:48:37 PST   Listings
DAVID B. ----It would be clearier if someone had a Spanish catalog ,maybe your right and maybe what i wrote 25/35 years ago is right ,let see....paul
Posted by stamps12345   ( 222 ) on Jan-28-07 at 20:45:11 PST   Listings
The natural question would be if the British had something to do with the stamp issue in Venezuela.Their catalogs are going to support their actions ,obivious....waiting for a translation ???
Posted by dbenson   ( 7783 ) on Jan-28-07 at 20:43:10 PST   Listings
Paul, the revolutionary issues are entirely different, I also suggest you borrow, beg or steal a copy of Gibbons part 20 and photocopy the 8 pages for your reference,

David B.
Posted by 22028   ( 1549 ) on Jan-28-07 at 20:34:34 PST   Listings
Is somone having a moneybooker account and could sent a few $ on my behalf? I can refund thru paypal...
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 312 ) on Jan-28-07 at 20:27:24 PST   Listings
Milenko, that is a very nice Missent cover, and perfectly illustrates what I was saying about the MISSENT only being used on mail that ended up in a place it was not meant to be!
Athens Ga and Athens Greece -- and with the added advantage of a nice Georgia cds too!... a lovely cover!

Bob in WA. loved your V posting...tooo cute!

Linda
Posted by dbenson   ( 7783 ) on Jan-28-07 at 20:24:29 PST   Listings
Mitch, see if you locate a copy Of Gibbons Part 20, South America it has full details,

David B.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 222 ) on Jan-28-07 at 20:22:24 PST   Listings
MITCH----They have very little value .Scott catalog really doesn't explan these stamps other than the foot note that leaves you hanging .
Posted by dbenson   ( 7783 ) on Jan-28-07 at 20:19:13 PST   Listings
Paul, I forgot, it is also Dinki Di,

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7783 ) on Jan-28-07 at 20:18:36 PST   Listings
Paul, the Instrucciones are listed as postage stamps in Gibbons, mint & postally used. I have no idea why they are not catalogued in the catlogues you are looking at.

The French stamp is perfectly genuine 100% kosher, true blue French issue of 1849 with a Petite Chiffre cancel which is normal usage on the 1849 issue. Of course it has no value in the condition it is in but that is another story,

David B.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 615 ) on Jan-28-07 at 20:12:26 PST   Listings
Hiya Bill No doubt you have noted that there are a few un-overprinted stamps on that page that have different colors than Scott lists. Those are part of my query.

Paul Knowing that you have a vast collection, do you happen to have any of the exact stamps shown on the page I showed? I'm just wondering how common they might be. Would you be so kind to show what you have.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 222 ) on Jan-28-07 at 20:11:53 PST   Listings
VINNY -----Your French stamp may be a reprint ,the reason i say that is because the reprints have a dull color and worn plate which shows only a few details like your scan shows .The reprint is 22.35 mm in height as to the originals which are 22.25mm 's....at that close in measurement you would need another stamp to compare size ....paul
Posted by wrd3   ( 99 ) on Jan-28-07 at 20:03:16 PST   Listings
The base stamp design that antonius-ra posted is a fiscal stamp. It was available in multiple colors. Some of the colors were used postally prior to 1895. The base stamp with the colors that were valid postally are listed in the Scott catalog, numberrs 128-135. The Scott catalog states "By decree of Nov 28, 1892, the stamps inscribed "Correos" were to be used for external postage and those inscribed "Instruccion" were for internal postage and revenue purposes". Somewhere I have a list of the colors and denominations that were not used postally (but of course I can't find the list right now). I do not know about the overprints.

There was a very useful website on Venezuelan stamps (created by someone who participated in this board for a while), but unfortunately that website is no longer active / available.

Bill D.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 615 ) on Jan-28-07 at 19:57:08 PST   Listings
Paul My historical memory banks are not well filled with that era in Venezuela. What would GB, Germany and Italy have to do with them? Scott "as it is" does not mention anything (even school tax) but does list that issue as type A25 of 1893. The RTM and 1900 overprint was used on type A28 but Scott shows nothing on A25? Perhaps these were just remainders that were overprinted for whatever the purpose.
I freely admit, I know very little of the philatelic history of this country. The collection I aquired (15 years ago) that contained these was obviously one of a specialist.
I'm really just wanting to know what they are so I can put them where they belong in my collection. Or better yet if they are worth a good deal, to sell them off. It's a matter of economics versus a love of stamps. And of course being broke and needing an operation.

Posted by stamps12345   ( 222 ) on Jan-28-07 at 19:50:21 PST   Listings
Before anyone gets their underwear all bunched up about my explanation on those Venezuela stamps that Mitch shown and asked about .

Since the only Spanish i understand is "when do we get paid" and "when do we go home" the wording on those stamps is "INSTRUCCION" which can be as David states a "school/instrucations" ...but it also means JOINT RULE,which would make sense to what i posted......any translators?????

Posted by keleofa   ( 3352 ) on Jan-28-07 at 19:35:58 PST   Listings
Bert,

re: Indiantown Gap, PA

I believe it is a Universal but am not 100% sure.

Matt in Arizona
Posted by stamps12345   ( 222 ) on Jan-28-07 at 19:31:14 PST   Listings
DAVID B. and MITCH-----There is more to the explanation on those Venezuela "SCHOOL TAX STAMPS" .This is from footnotes on my album page .......In 1902 Britain,Germany and Italy seeking compensation for revolutionary damageds siezed the custom house and issued"provisionals" for repayment.These provisionals stamps were printed with the word "instruccion" on them.

If what David posted ,they were issued by the Venezuela government then the catalogs would carry them as postage stamps but they were issued by a outside party and not official postage stamps .....paul

Posted by watermarked   ( 671 ) on Jan-28-07 at 19:23:45 PST   Listings
Matt in Arizona

Since the branch was discontinued (twice) it does qualify as a DPO. Is your cancel a machine? If so, do you have any ideas about the manufacturer?

Bert
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 615 ) on Jan-28-07 at 19:20:50 PST   Listings
D2 It was the overprints on those stamps that was in question as well as the different colors of the 1893 issue.
How should those RTM and the 1900 overprints on the 1893 issue be filed in my collection? Are they of any value or just muck?
Posted by keleofa   ( 3352 ) on Jan-28-07 at 19:12:34 PST   Listings
Bert,

re: Indiantown Gap, PA

Thanks!!!!! Just the info I was looking for. In your opinion is it considered a DPO as it was a branch of Annville?

Matt in Arizona
Posted by dbenson   ( 7783 ) on Jan-28-07 at 19:03:13 PST   Listings
Mitch, re the RTM monogram overprint,

Gibbons state " They were made by P Schlagter at the National Printing Works, Caracas by decree of General Cipriano Castro after he assumed power to prevent the fraudulent use of unoverprinted stamps by offficials of the previous regime. "

RTM is the initials of Ramon Tellos Mendoza, Minister of Interior "

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7783 ) on Jan-28-07 at 18:58:28 PST   Listings
Vinny, it is 1849 issue of France,

Antonius,

I wouldn't trim an imperf. for any reason whatsover.
I would leave the French ship marking under the country of issue unless you want to start a subsidiary collection of ship's markings.

What was the query on the stamps you asked about. Issues inscribes Instruccion were School Tax stamps but were valid for inland postage, they were not valid for external postage and should be considered the same as Postal Fiscals, if unused then postage stamps, if postmarkd then postage stamps, if pen or non postal marking then they are fiscals.

David B.
Posted by watermarked   ( 671 ) on Jan-28-07 at 18:49:59 PST   Listings
Keleofa

Re: Indiantown Gap, PA

This was a branch of Annville, PA

dates of operation

March 1, 1941 - June 30, 1946
March 16, 1951 - September 30, 1953

Dates are from Pennsylvania Postal History by Kay and Smith
(Book contains only a listing of Post Offices)

I have covers for there also but I have not been able to identify the manufacturer of the machine that made the cancel.
Do not think it was called a Fort during WWII.
Bert
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1207 ) on Jan-28-07 at 18:49:44 PST   Listings
patcurragh
You’re right, Irish Postal History is not common here in the states. I've been collecting it for over 30 years. eBay has sure helped me increase the Irish Postal history in my collection. It had been years since I’d added much on anything before eBay, and much of that came from auctions and mail sales in Ireland.

rickyglen227
Welcome. You’ve asked a question that requires a lot more information for a good answer. If you’re not a stamps collector, and from your question I’d guess that’s the case, check out the links in the Yellow Box. Posted on this page. There is a lot of information there for someone in your situation where you inherit a stamp collection. After you’ve checked out the Yellow Boxes, if you have a specific question post it here. We’ll be glad to help.

iomoon
Neat piece. I’m glad that you’ve got it. I’d have a dilemma, on where to put it, but The Stained Glass collection would probably win. Finding commercially used covers with stamps depicting Stained Glass Windows is not an easy task.



In keeping with the "V" theme and our missent birdwalk here’s a scan of a cover in a friends collection. It was mailed from Germany to Valparaiso, Indiana, USA and came via Valparaiso, Chile. click here . Unfortunately there’s no “missent” handstamp on the cover.

Jim L.

Posted by antonius-ra   ( 615 ) on Jan-28-07 at 18:45:04 PST   Listings
Vinny That is an extremely tough issue to identify.
It is type I not II. Other than that you would need to provide a better scan of the face for anyone to hazard a guess.
I have nearly driven myself crazy trying to identify them.
Seeing how that one is so heavily thinned, I would prefer to save my sanity for other pursuits.
Posted by vinnysf   ( 289 ) on Jan-28-07 at 18:37:21 PST   Listings
V is for "vinnysf" !!
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 615 ) on Jan-28-07 at 18:23:54 PST   Listings
Gee, I thought the question I posted about trimming (roughly cut) imperfs (at 13:53:08 PST) would bring on a furious debate.
Perhaps everyone has better things to do today?

Ok then, how about this: Can anyone identify Venezuelan stamps.
I assume they are some sort of BOB.
If there are no Venezuela specislist perhaps a certain WW collector who knows everthing might help.
Posted by vinnysf   ( 289 ) on Jan-28-07 at 18:19:55 PST   Listings
does anyone know how to tell which design this france is? i can't tell if its A1, A11 or A13 or it might even be one of the french colonies. ugghh!
Posted by iomoon   ( 1040 ) on Jan-28-07 at 17:16:50 PST   Listings
Some stamps on a recent eBay buy.

V is for Paul-Emile Victor accompanied by, for Jim Lawler & Pat, an Irish stained glass window.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 615 ) on Jan-28-07 at 17:01:29 PST   Listings
Dragon Sorry, go ahead and post away........

Speaking of Venezuela and shipping, here are some (seldom seen) stamps from La Guaira

Thanks to lluehhhb, Knud and D2 for the info. You must be right but unfortunately the bottom of the cancel is missing.
I do have a duplicate of that stamp so I am wondering if the French ship cancelled one might be better placed in my French collection?
Posted by duncan_doenitz   ( 108 ) on Jan-28-07 at 16:51:02 PST   Listings
V is for Vertical coil.

I'm not actually sure if I have these correctly identified, since it is possible that they could be singles cut from imperforate sheet stamps. However, since they are part of a mass mailing effort, it seems likely that they are from imperforate coils, and the sloppy top and bottom alignment suggests that they are the more common Vertical coils as opposed to Horizontal coils.

Vertical coils, either Scott #343V or #383V, depending on the watermark.

-Dunc
Posted by dragonstamps   ( 443 ) on Jan-28-07 at 16:41:18 PST   Listings
Stop creating problems that they have to fix.
Not to anyone in particular....More than one person will think it's for them.
I would have posted a few Venezuela until Mitch put his on.
Posted by keleofa   ( 3352 ) on Jan-28-07 at 15:27:57 PST   Listings
Rickyglen,

YES!

Matt in Arizona
Posted by iomoon   ( 1040 ) on Jan-28-07 at 15:19:25 PST   Listings
How about "V" and "W" at the same time.

V is for Virginia Water, Surrey.

An ecclesiastical District that was relatively late in obtaining its cancel.
Though it has been lopped off, it would have been J46.
It had a population of 1101 in the 1881 census.
And of course, V is for Victoria, this time a 1d pink embossed, postcard cut-out.
Posted by rickyglen227   ( 58 ) on Jan-28-07 at 15:17:37 PST   Listings
I HAVE JUST RECEIVED A STAMP COLLECTION (LARGE) FROM A UNCLE THAT PAST AWAY. IS EBAY A GOOD WAY TO SELL IT?
Posted by deh3   ( 1318 ) on Jan-28-07 at 15:16:14 PST   Listings
Here is a missent to marking that JD did not manufacture:
Liverpool
It is the second example reported, on an 1841 soldiers' letter(!) from Bermuda(!) to Montreal. The contents are also very interesting.

For more details on this and other soldiers letters of the period, download the longish article, Soldiers' letters to or from Canada, 1802--1841 from Richard Frajola's
Mercury
Project board.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7783 ) on Jan-28-07 at 15:08:03 PST   Listings
Mitch, loooks like this ship's marking,

http://cgi.ebay.com/VENEZUELA-Cover-from-LA-GUAIRA-with-firm-s-cachet_W0QQitemZ290004052352QQihZ019QQcategoryZ264QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item290004052352

David B.
Posted by knuden   ( 2191 ) on Jan-28-07 at 14:58:41 PST   Listings
And I can't spell too! :O)

K.E 
Posted by knuden   ( 2191 ) on Jan-28-07 at 14:57:46 PST   Listings
Antonius - If your french cancel look like the one on this page, it's a french ship cancel.Unfotunately I can't understand french but other would be able to translate it.

K.E 
Posted by bjornmu   ( 865 ) on Jan-28-07 at 14:45:24 PST   Listings
Linda, I think I know an almost foolproof way to have a letter missent. Use a plain envelope, send it from Norway to Austria, but instead of Østerrike, write Austerrike, which is correct spelling in Nynorsk (the less used of the two written standards of Norwegian). The automatic sorting machines sees "Aust" and sends it around the globe. :-)

That is, unless they have now fixed the problem.
Posted by lluehhhb   ( 235 ) on Jan-28-07 at 14:44:58 PST   Listings
antonius,

I don't know exactly the facts, but I know there were some french postal agencies in Venezuela (I remember one in Puerto Cabello using the same cancel type)
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 615 ) on Jan-28-07 at 14:11:55 PST   Listings
lluehhhb Thank you!
I had never noticed that "french type" cancel actually.
I do have a few similar ones on late 19th France. This one does say Venezuela though. Do you know the story behind that cancel.
Posted by patcurragh   ( 3 ) on Jan-28-07 at 14:10:49 PST   Listings
Alec, thank you!

Linda, thank you likewise.
Happy to increase my feedback when I track down interesting material. Have Cash, Cheques (Checks), Credit Card, Pay-Pal, Bank Transfers, Gold Bullion and whatever else needed at the ready!
V is a problem, also JKQWXYZ, as they do not exist in the Irish alphabet. We do have dots over some letters as for some of our Continental friends, extending A-Z limitations.
Guess I may just have to work in our second language, Hiberno-English! :-)
Posted by lluehhhb   ( 235 ) on Jan-28-07 at 14:01:09 PST   Listings
antonius-ra

lovely collection!
I've always liked the "escuelas" issues.

the 1880 25c with the french cancel is a beauty.

I'll look for the email of my old philatelic boss and I'll send it to you. I sorted all the america and europe stock, so it's easy to ask him for specific numbers.
Posted by sayasan   ( 576 ) on Jan-28-07 at 14:00:15 PST   Listings
lluehhhb - no probs. Not only does the mark look fine but it was missent - and you've an Athens GA cancel to prove it. Georgia instead of Greece - nice. You may have thought you were getting in on the ground floor with a cut-price Jonathan Dean gem, but I'm sorry to disappoint you.
Posted by sayasan   ( 576 ) on Jan-28-07 at 13:56:11 PST   Listings
alec - I think you're right. I looked at the bidding pattern of the high bidder and couldn't see this seller anywhere else in it. Seems weird that three private-feedback Koreans should all go for the same non-Korean item, though. I usually only put in early bids if (a) the item is actually priced high, really as a buy-it-now, the seller apparently anticipating just a single "buy" bid. Then I might want to deter anyone else by staking a claim. Or if the start is low (b) I might put in a low "marker" bid as a sign of my interest to one or two friends who I know will not bid against me (usually), just as I wouldn't if they got in first.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 615 ) on Jan-28-07 at 13:55:13 PST   Listings
Meant to say opinions not advise (advice)
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 615 ) on Jan-28-07 at 13:53:08 PST   Listings
Ok then, here is my "new improved" Venezuela

Would anyone know of a well stocked dealer that would be able to fill my $20 and less holes for this country. I would really like to get those little buggers filled in.

Also would appreciate some advise on trimming imperfs.
Note the second page of this collection and the Bolivar set at bottom. There are many stamps that have awkward margins.
Would it be best to trim them up (outside the framelines) to give a more uniform appearance. I normally do not remove any margin material but I think it might look better if I did (on some of these)
Posted by lluehhhb   ( 235 ) on Jan-28-07 at 13:51:47 PST   Listings
all this "missent" issue raised a doubt about this cover I'm waiting to arrive.

I think it's authentic, but...
Posted by rclwa   ( 949 ) on Jan-28-07 at 13:45:30 PST   Listings
OK, here's one I bet nobody anticipated--V is for VOYEURISM! This Korean stamp from a 1979 set celebrating ''5000 years of Korean art'' shows an innocent, bucolic scene of women frolicking in the sunshine and washing in a stream, until you notice THESE two young boys hiding behind some rocks and brush a few paces upstream, enjoying the delightful day in their own way! There is at least one other Korean art stamp with a similar theme. I have a copy somewhere, but I couldn't find it today.

Bob in WA
Posted by knuden   ( 2191 ) on Jan-28-07 at 13:44:24 PST   Listings
As I lost an auction, which I would be happy to get :O( I, as a consolation prize, have just bought this money order.
It was sent from Oberhaid by Kaplitz March 29, 1945 to Vienna and arrived just before the liberation of Vienna and here the Hitler stamp was defaced and the moneyorder was censored (was it to a good Austrian or a bad Austrian?) Now I'm happy as a little boy at Christmas, as I never have seen a Moneyorder from Sudetenland with a defaced stamp. It'a a philatelic goodee.

K.E 
Posted by infla-alec   ( 505 ) on Jan-28-07 at 13:42:43 PST   Listings
Richard W I'd simply place a sniper bid and leave it at that.By bidding early you give others the chance to see how high you are willing to go and beat you. I've no idea if private feedback is the norm in Korea though I suppose the seller could have friends in Korea doing some pushing bids but I'm not very good at investigating such things
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 312 ) on Jan-28-07 at 13:23:53 PST   Listings
oh David they are easy to explain and describe. As a professional describer I'd give them a one-liner

PhilatelicPhantasy..Impossibly Handstamped..Forgers Delight $0.05c
..but thats not all...buy it now and receive a free set of steak knives..
!!
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 312 ) on Jan-28-07 at 13:19:08 PST   Listings
Welcome to the Stamp Board Pat, I believe ebay still has a rule that until you have a feedback of (10) you can only make a limited number of posts each 24hours. However, I hope you will share some of your collection with us. We all like to see links to other collectors favourite things. Currently we are showing, alphabetically, week by week items from our collections. This week is V. but please feel free to show anything you like, dont wait till you have the 'right letter'. !
I'll show something in a day or 2.

Linda
Posted by sayasan   ( 576 ) on Jan-28-07 at 13:16:29 PST   Listings
Changing the subject, this seems a bit weird. I was (at one point) bidding on this which still has a little while to go as I speak. My opposition appears to be three different buyers, all from Korea, and all with private feedback. Hmmmm. Is private feedback the norm in Korea? Do Koreans like Christmas seals a lot? Seller is in Sweden. Odd. Not sure I'm confident about going back into the bidding here ...

Any comments?



Posted by dbenson   ( 7783 ) on Jan-28-07 at 13:14:37 PST   Listings
Linda,

you want to have a go at explaining these,

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=689&item=150083030425

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3514&item=150083065982

David B.
Posted by infla-alec   ( 505 ) on Jan-28-07 at 13:13:01 PST   Listings
Pat Welcome to the board and please feel free to share your collecting interests with us all.
Posted by patcurragh   ( 3 ) on Jan-28-07 at 12:57:46 PST   Listings
Jim, that's "Good Night", specs now in place.

Pat
Posted by patcurragh   ( 3 ) on Jan-28-07 at 12:53:45 PST   Listings
Goog Night Indiana!

Hi Jim, I'm new posting here...made a few frivolous contributions earlier.

Down to matters Philatelic. Do you collect Ireland Postal History? I have been surprised how little there is of older Ireland material, pre 1900 and especially ELs (folded letters), available on the US market. I have dealt with one US dealer. E-Bay searches produce little of interest. I checked out all appropriate dealers at Washington 2006 and got a small amount of good material, including two older items from my home town. Have the EPA folk cornered the market, or is Ireland PH just a scarce commodity Stateside.
I would appreciate your thoughts.

Go raibh maith agat (Thanks)

Pat
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 312 ) on Jan-28-07 at 12:47:23 PST   Listings
Good morning from Sunny Melbourne.

Now, correct me if I am wrong, but the one philatelic point johnnydean seems to have gotten wrong is that no matter how much a wrongly addressed cover travels, it receives only NOT KNOWN and RETURN TO SENDER markings, in various languages. He is talking about his ol'granny or whoever sending thousands of letters around the world to get a MISSENT TO marking. Philatelically it just does not happen.
MISSENT MAIL is only mail that is addressed to country A but somehow gets mis sorted and ends up in an entirely different country, either through PO error or, in some cases through the poor handwriting of the sender... Austria being mistaken for Australia or Swaziland being mistaken for Switzerland, that kind of error.

No way would thousands of letters send to fictitious addressed anywhere in the world be returned to sender with a MISSENT TO handstamp. Over the years I have handled hundreds if not thousands of RETURN TO SENDER / UNKNOWN BY POSTMAN / ADRESSEE DECEASED etc.etc. covers, but few MISSSENT TO covers. (oh I do have some, but you cannot philatelically contrive them, they just 'happen') From his rantings it is clear (well as clear as can be deciphered), Mr.D does not understand, philatelically, the difference between MISSENT and RETURNED.
Now I need a cuppa tea and some toast! end of rant.
Linda
Posted by jaywild   ( 912 ) on Jan-28-07 at 11:57:45 PST   Listings
V is for Vail Arizona. Vail is really only a crossroads anymore, having been subsumed by the sprawl from Tucson long ago.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by iomoon   ( 1040 ) on Jan-28-07 at 11:53:53 PST   Listings
V is for Venice.

Folded letter with London Inland Branch 9 in diamond for November 12th, 1872.
Two 3d stamps for the regular rate and an extra 1d for the Late Fee indicated by the L1.
PD = paid to destination.
Stamps also contain, of course, V = Victoria.

Back has receiving cancel for V = Venezia on November 15th, 72.
Posted by jaywild   ( 912 ) on Jan-28-07 at 11:51:27 PST   Listings
sayasan… Actually in this case it’s vulture capitalism.

J

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by sayasan   ( 576 ) on Jan-28-07 at 11:50:26 PST   Listings
Alec - I was thinking that each number could be represented by a value in a stamp, part of a date on a postmark, a post office number in a cancellation or whatever, the last two digits of a year - "73" for 1873 - though other calendars, e.g. Japanese, might lend some scope, a rare perf variety, a house number or postcode in an address, a plate number, die number, even maybe a catalogue number. After all, this is just a prompt for us to post anything that might be of interest, so almost any connection with the number of the week would do. Would some numbers prove too obscure? Or would the problem be that it might take a while to hunt down something in one's collection that would qualify, whereas initial letters are much more readily suggestive? I can't say for sure that it would work. Just an idea.

Alternatively, we could just take year dates, say from 1900 to the present. Or go backwards from 2007 and see how far we get.

Posted by infla-alec   ( 505 ) on Jan-28-07 at 11:15:01 PST   Listings
Richard W Care to expand on how the 1-100 would work ? Anyone with ideas on how we can keep a philatelic theme going please post them.
Posted by infla-alec   ( 505 ) on Jan-28-07 at 11:13:07 PST   Listings
V is also for Value Declared If done correctly the write up explanation should also be viewable.
Posted by sayasan   ( 576 ) on Jan-28-07 at 11:09:59 PST   Listings
Alec - How about the "1" to "100" idea I suggested a while back?

Knuden - Couldn't agree more. So here's an early "V", rather predictably, for Victory. In Burma, that is.

First, a nice cover from 1941 (datestamps on back) with no stamps - free postage for soldiers on active service. This was mailed from the area of the Rangoon Examination Battery, an artillery defence at the mouth of the river - "examination" in this sense seems to mean facing out to sea, that's all. Free postage indicated by the "EX BTY AREA" marking, which is scarce. And a nice big home made "V" for Victory.

From the same year, here's a mystery instructional (not philatelic) marking created by Jonathan Dean's grandfather. Enough. No. Stop it. Sorry ...

Actually, this weird home made mark could be a fake, as both these examples are on chettiar covers to India which are often found spiced up with bogus marks, Except that these two are both mailed from the same town, Wakema, within a month or so of each other, apparently from different senders, and to different addresses. And I bought them from different sources. The Indian handstamp fakers are not as clever as this, slapping a mark on anything and everything, whatever the place or date. So this could be something made by the postmaster at Wakema. But what does it mean? Looks like a monogram of "VA" - Victory to the Allies? Victory in Asia?. Never seen any other examples.

Moving swiftly to 1946, here's a great fdc design for the "Victory" issue, inscribed "The Rising Sun Has Set / The Howling Hun Has Fled / And Democracy - Has Led!" They don't write 'em like that any more. (Apologies to any German readers of the board.)

Here's the same issue first day on a leftover Japanese Occcupation overprinted cover. Not as rare as you'd imagine.

And here's the official presentation version given to government bigwigs, personally signed by the Director of Posts, Nesbitt-Hawes.

Finally, to remind us of the true cost of victory, a souvenir cover, with the Victory stamps, from the memorial ceremony post office (the "M.C." on the registration label) at Thanbyuzayat. The ceremony was held to commemorate the many Allied POW's and Burmese civilians who died building the infamous Thai-Burma railway which terminated at Thanbyuzayat.

Richard W.

Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1206 ) on Jan-28-07 at 10:55:27 PST   Listings
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"on eof" = one of
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1206 ) on Jan-28-07 at 10:54:31 PST   Listings
Sorry about not getting up my usual morning post.

In keeping with the "V" theme here’s on eof those covers that’s made to appear as more that what it actually is. The mailer wants to impress with the “Verified” label on the front. click here .

Jim L.
Posted by infla-alec   ( 505 ) on Jan-28-07 at 10:49:07 PST   Listings
Bjorn Not an ebay one no but there are several philatelic groups in Tradera.
Posted by bjornmu   ( 864 ) on Jan-28-07 at 10:43:38 PST   Listings
Huh - is there a Swedish eBay forum?
Posted by bjornmu   ( 864 ) on Jan-28-07 at 10:42:12 PST   Listings
To continue my Swedish contributions: V is for VIIIe Världspostkongress (World postal congress) in Stockholm 1924, also marking the 50th anniversary of the UPU. An equally long series of large stamps were issued for the anniversary, but my page for that is less full so I didn't show that for U...

There's an obvious entry from Norway coming too, later...
Posted by infla-alec   ( 505 ) on Jan-28-07 at 10:38:22 PST   Listings
Knuden By now I'd have thought you knew such discussions are the , "normal" for this board !
But seriously I will be sorry to see the ABC theme come to an end in the next few weeks. What will take it's place I don't know. A similar ABC thing is now also taking place in Germany and Sweden. The German site is up to G and Sweden has only just begun with A.
Posted by knuden   ( 2191 ) on Jan-28-07 at 10:33:39 PST   Listings
Antonius - Great stamps - as usual. :O)

K.E