eBay chatboard archive: Jan-29-07 to Feb-04-07 week

Posted by antonius-ra   ( 615 ) on Feb-04-07 at 23:54:13 PST   Listings
Johnny D. Welcome back! I knew you could not resist coming back to chat with us.
How old was your great grandfather when he started this incredible accumulation? What was his name?
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 615 ) on Feb-04-07 at 23:46:32 PST   Listings
Roly Spot-on, chipg was clearly the winner, in my book, for his gorgeous early British initial items,(drool). Unbelievable, even if your initials were not C.G., that showing would be a crown jewel in anyones collection.

Alec, et al Been thinking about what might work best for the next weekly topic. I think going thru the alphabet again but with a topical/name theme. People, places, plants, animals, buildings etc etc. Not specific countries but the theme names of the stamps, A-Z.

P.S. I think there should be an overall winner for the last A-Z showings. Off hand, I'm thinking it would be hard to beat Jaywilds birth date covers or those of chipg, at least for items that have never been showed here before.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7808 ) on Feb-04-07 at 23:20:27 PST   Listings
Jonathan,

just read your long treatise on the fake fumigation markings and noticed that you state,

" THE BUTLER DID IT "

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7808 ) on Feb-04-07 at 23:19:08 PST   Listings
Jonathandean,

a good example to show, a nice contrived cover with genuine markings which you state are uncatalogued. Of course they are uncatalogued but I am sure that they would be listed in a specialised article on the subject. At least they haven't had the usual additions of " damaged by sea water " or " damaged by snow plow " or whatever to enhance them,. I hope you will find a buyer for it but at that price I doubt it very much,

p.s. what was your Ebay name when you listed the fake fumigation markings,

David B.
Posted by jonathandean8   ( 570 ) on Feb-04-07 at 22:34:17 PST   Listings
dbenson Disinfected Mail Article
Night after night the same people log on to this chat board, don't you have anything better to do with yourselves.
The Disinfeced Mail Article appeared over 3 years ago.
The Royal Mail per K.F. Meyer's "Disinfected Mail", the series of articles he wrote for the APS in the 1950's and Han. T. Sien's book, "Men , Microbes and Medical Microbiologists" never conducted a prologed fumigation campaign for mail from areas affected by the diseases of the time small pox,cholera etc. The few handstamps were all spelt incorrectly a reflection of the level of education of the "medicine men" who sold the aristocrats the fumigation stove under the fallacy and fear that such diseases could be bourne by postal items. These hand stamps were not philatelic but private hand stamps. The obvious is staring you in the face. If you look at the smalls of early 19th century newspapers you will find dozens of "alternative" medicines,"solutions" for mail from disease inflicted areas and adverts for these contraptions. Since their customer base was the rich and the upper class aristocracy and MPs, where basically "the rich", the least they could offer was a hand stamp made by a high quality craftsman who was probably barely literate and simply copied what he was asked to make. A good example how blind philatelists are to the obvious. The Auxiliary Stamp Society estimates there could be as many as 400,000 US to 600,000 uncatalogued philatelic hand stamps (there are 40,000 active post offices today from a high of 80,000 in the US and as there newsletter indicates they make their own auxiliary handstamps as they are required) , world wide millions and millions of uncatalogued hand stamps. But in the above article these clearly were private hand stamps probably applied by the Butler who delivered the mail to the Master of the House.
Lot 150088817756 is a good example of six uncatalogued Dominica Hand Stamps and one Israeli uncatalogued hand stamp. Ebay referred to us to the APS, who have a group who advise eBay on philatelic issues per eBay , the APS staff and elected officers had no knowledge of this APS Group but referred us to 30 to 40 major stamp dealers around the world , many of who had sold by private treaty collections to us. The consensus was overwhelmingly to call uncatalogued hand stamps "*instructional markings* and not philatelic hand stamps". Unfortunately I will be offline for 72 hours so will miss the fun of your yuppie replies if I log on again ever. Seriously though "uncatalogued hand stamps" is an issue for buyer and seller alike and should be tackled seriously.The Ebay Chat Board is unfortunately a very limited chat board with a dozen or so regulars, but nevertheless a mixture of well informed buyers and sellers.
Posted by vinnysf   ( 295 ) on Feb-04-07 at 22:03:09 PST   Listings
thanks paper history...yeah i figured that the one with the cancel is the only real one... i've gonna keep my distance from confederates from now on. lol
Posted by billsey   ( 840 ) on Feb-04-07 at 21:46:05 PST   Listings
Thanks Bill, I've updated the U and V segments of our A-Z web page.
Posted by malolo   ( 836 ) on Feb-04-07 at 21:33:06 PST   Listings
Here’s my contribution to letter “W”.

An 1873 letter from Switzerland to Reverend William Hayes Ward of New York City. The Reverend Ward joined the staff of the “Independent” in 1868 and later was promoted to Editor in Chief from 1893- 1913. It is always interesting to discover information about the addressee on 19th century covers.

The rate on the cover, as far as I can determine is 5 centimes overpaid.

Roger
Posted by csdoctor   ( 184 ) on Feb-04-07 at 21:29:33 PST   Listings
hello.
Posted by malolo   ( 836 ) on Feb-04-07 at 20:25:26 PST   Listings
Pro -
Razors are pretty scarce, but it doesn’t surprise me that there are none in 4500 cards. The devices were only used in the 12 major post offices, no small towns, no villages, nowhere except these District Post Offices. It seems only Aarau used its device exclusively on all outgoing mail during the test period, except of course when it was in the shop for repairs.

Saturday I won a lot in Switzerland that was described as 90 covers of razor cancels. My friend there saw the albums and at the end of the pages was an 1889 cover of the deCoppet precursor along with a 1973 note stating only 3 known on cover. I ‘m certain more have been found of this device on cover, but that will be worth every dollar I spent on the lot, making all the other 89 free. )’>) I have seen no scans of the collection but it should be interesting to view when it arrives.

Roger
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 312 ) on Feb-04-07 at 20:23:39 PST   Listings
last week I was going to add V is for VICTORIA the State I have called home for these last 26 years... must have forgotten I did the scan, and its such a nice machine cancel too! never mind, better late than never.
And I have a new W too.... maybe post it tomorrow.

Victoria .. a week late!

Linda
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1212 ) on Feb-04-07 at 20:06:21 PST   Listings

due2cents
Thanks for relaying that kind remarks are being made. I’d guess you were somewhere near Indiana when you heard them.


Roly (rolyrj)
I’ve not counted them, but I’d guess I’ve around 500 different, plus a few of the letters used in the first years of the club. They are in four bulging binders. I’ve a very few holes in my personal collection and have gotten scans from one of the best collections that was in Kokomo before the owner died and his material was scattered. I’ve recently had a line on getting his primary collection of Kokomo Club Cards, but that’s not all worked out as yet. So far I think the upcoming “X” may be the only letter I don’t have a strong connection from at least one of the club cards. I’ll be looking through them again soon for finishing up the “W” week, so, who knows I may be able to come up with a connection.
Building the Kokomo club card collection has given me a mess of duplicates, but I’ve yet to decide just how & when I want to deal with them.

RE: Tonight’s football game
Again I was more impressed by the character of the coaches and the players (with very few exceptions) on both teams, especially in their remarks about the relationships built among the team after the game.


In keeping with the "W" theme here’s a 71 style Bureau precancel used in Warsaw, Indiana byt the Crippled Children fund click here.

Jim L.
Posted by wrd3   ( 99 ) on Feb-04-07 at 19:38:31 PST   Listings
billsey I have both the U week and the V week entries. Relative to the "U" week ... you'll have to figure out which of rolyrj's entries to post (or perhaps all of them).

rolyrj I think you meant to refer to the "V" week in your post announcing the winner. : - )

I was glad to see Manning win, but the game was (in my opinion) not well played. Of course all the rain probably had something to do with that .....

Bill D.
Posted by djs127   ( 569 ) on Feb-04-07 at 19:28:54 PST   Listings
My US revenue collection just finished and went for $28 which is more than I paid for the original one. Guess it shows US revenues are popular on Ebay.

After many errands this morning was able to finish putting used Swedish stamps into my international albums from a collection i bought on Ebay a while ago. Colts Bears game was fun watching --- my youngest son had wanted the Bears to win so he was disappointed. I had thought the Colts were the better team after I saw they beat New England (who beat the Jets).
David Snyder
Posted by iomoon   ( 1041 ) on Feb-04-07 at 19:21:24 PST   Listings
Good game.

Chicago lost.

Better team won when it was necessary.
Posted by rolyrj   ( 2 ) on Feb-04-07 at 19:19:20 PST   Listings
billsey I have a full capture of the letter "V" if you require it.
Posted by billsey   ( 840 ) on Feb-04-07 at 19:11:15 PST   Listings
Roly, thanks for the remarks, though my Upper Volta is far from remarkable. :-)

I just realized that I didn't put the U winner on on the web page! Bill D, do you still have a capture? I missed a good portion of that week by being out of computer range. :-(
Posted by jaywild   ( 913 ) on Feb-04-07 at 19:05:53 PST   Listings
W is for Warren, Wellton, Wenden, Whipple, Wickenburg, Wikieup, Willcox, Williams, Window Rock, Winkelman and Winslow Arizona.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by jaywild   ( 913 ) on Feb-04-07 at 19:01:46 PST   Listings
Knuden… Wremarkable Wrappers!!

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by rolyrj   ( 2 ) on Feb-04-07 at 18:57:46 PST   Listings
Thank you for the nice compliment David.
Posted by bilbo   ( 306 ) on Feb-04-07 at 18:37:52 PST   Listings
IO,

Thanks loads!

Sorry I wasn't back sooner, but I've been busy.

y'all have a great evening!

bilbo
Posted by slugovonpoohbah   ( 0 ) on Feb-04-07 at 18:36:13 PST   Listings
MVP for the Colts Rex Grossman
Posted by dbenson   ( 7808 ) on Feb-04-07 at 18:31:26 PST   Listings
roly, well done, you'll make a good judge, picked the best one and gave all the others a critique,

ps. you almost beat us last night,

David B.
Posted by rolyrj   ( 2 ) on Feb-04-07 at 18:13:27 PST   Listings
Results for week "U"
First the disclaimer :) I am in no way setting my self up as an expert and wouldn't have the first clue as to how to judge an exhibit. So my choice for week "U" is simply based on what I liked and what I really liked and what I really really liked.
I counted 51 entries this week which is a real good showing. It facinates me as to what we all collect and our various areas of "expertise", if I can use that word.

So.... right out of the blocks at full steam was a most impressive showing from Antonius-ra with Vietnam (South) followed closely by Venezuela and a great showing of Venezia aka Venice.

Then I was most impressed by Sayasan's Victory series. (where do you unearth all this type of material !!)

Then along comes David B. and hits the emotional strings with superb material from Vavau. But IO is hard in there as well with his lovely pages on Viti Levu. But Sheryll (S2) also hops onto the emotional band wago and presents Vanuatu. Much too much for this boy who loves the Pacific and has spent many months in each of these glorious locations.

However, moving on I was most impressed with Postalhysteria's thinking outside the box with Jules Verne, Voice of America, Volleyball etc. Kind of appealed to my sense of quirkiness :)

Jim L. How many Kokomo Club Cards do you have? :)

bilsey Runner up mate..... You have a great series of Upper Volta and very nicely displayed. I can appreciate the work that goes into presenting this sort of material in web page form having just done (still doing) my Penny Universal's pages.

And so the winner for week "U".
So many people went "wow" when this very short posting was made. I am sure many people appreciated this showing from chipg on Feb 01 -07, 06:19:47 for his magnificent display of his intitials "CG" on Victoria's.
I can appreciate the sheer hard work in collecting these specimens and then presenting them so well. So congratulations from me....... hope all approve :-O

Cheers

Roly
Posted by paperhistory   ( 1971 ) on Feb-04-07 at 17:57:07 PST   Listings
vinny: the only one that has any chance is the used one in the lower left of your second scan. The others are all fakes or fantasies. (and the one with Washington is a fake of the New York postmasters' provisional, not a confederate).

pro: look forward to hearing about it. thanks! I have a ton of stuff that I need to get through, sort, arrange, mount, etc. Can't stop buying in order to do all of that.
Posted by claghorn1p   ( 410 ) on Feb-04-07 at 16:31:59 PST   Listings
W is for Western Hungary listed in Michel.
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Posted by due2cents   ( 24 ) on Feb-04-07 at 15:10:38 PST   Listings
K.E. as always great things you share thanks.

Matt Not really on the Doanes I have 800 or so EKU LKU and 26 New ones Where i was once Very interested in these I now just get them to get them.
One day I will have one of Each.
The Ohio I got I Must share with you because I promised a Nice Little Olde Guy from Ohio I would share it with that young att from Cleveland ( he could not remember your name but had the ohio postal history connection) and let me have the card I noticed on top of his 25 cent cards he was buying for the Ohio views. When I told him why I was interested he tried to remember you But I made the connection and he said take it But share the info with you. I will in the AM. (did not get his name sorry)
BTW i picked up one of those 23 teeth ones today.
Looked at 800 of those Dealer thought me crazy counting the points like a crazy man, did pick up 8 more Wesson TOB cancels.

Jim L I overheard a part of a discussion as I was looking thru some cards at a show heard some nice things said about you.

NOIP because I got a few thousand more cards this weekend must go back to playing with my collection.

Got a bunch of nice Perfins on cards this time out
and a big batch of German Inflation uses to America.
Roger I ran into over 4500 used Swiss cards Not one Razor ;-(


Posted by vinnysf   ( 295 ) on Feb-04-07 at 14:58:02 PST   Listings
and also these confederates. are any of them real?
Posted by vinnysf   ( 295 ) on Feb-04-07 at 14:46:46 PST   Listings
i got some suspicious confederates and would anyone be able to help me outare any of these are real?
Posted by lluehhhb   ( 238 ) on Feb-04-07 at 14:35:07 PST   Listings
NOIP

I used to collect Germany empire some time ago, but left and sold it to move on other areas.

Probably my favourite series was the 1933 nothilfe (for the W letter, this is also known as the Wagner issue).

I always had in mind to start a postal history collection of the issue, but never decided to start until I saw this cover. I don't know if the price is right but it looks great.

Can anyone help me with the rate? there is 180 pf in stamps and 395 pf in a meter mark for a total of 575 pf.

does anybody have the german rates for the 1933-1934 period?
thanks!
Posted by dbenson   ( 7808 ) on Feb-04-07 at 14:31:15 PST   Listings
knud, some nice items, the one's I admire most are the Gabon & of course the French with the DECEDE handstamp, looks like the beginning of a nice one frame exhibit,

David B.
Posted by knuden   ( 2198 ) on Feb-04-07 at 14:03:16 PST   Listings
W is for wrapper with original contents

As a very small left hand collection, I collect wrappers with original contents. These are rather unusual but can be found.

Here is what I have found so far:

1. Postal wrapper from Denmark 1916 (Declaration of guarantee on sale of footwear)
2. Postal wrapper from Denmark 1927 (Newspaper)
3. Postal wrapper from Denmark 1938 (Poster about draw of bonds)
4. Wrapper from Austria 1909 (Newspaper)
5. Wrapper from Belgium 1965 (Newspaper)
6. Wrapper from France 1893 - back with seal and many interesting cancels (Official letter)
7. Wrapper from France 1909 (Religious writing)
8. Wrapper from Gabon 1891 (Philatelic printed letter).

K.E   I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1212 ) on Feb-04-07 at 13:40:46 PST   Listings
FWIW: Whe I tried the Morley-Bright Roll-a-Tector I found it working best on stamps that showed their watermark when held up to a light (ie Irish). I did not find it that helpful on hard to see watermarks (ieyellow Washington/Franklins). I’ve had my best luck with the Washington/Franklins holding them up to direct sunlight through a southern window. For a while I had a cardboard piece where I’d cut out a hole just under the size of the stamp to I could avoid looking directly at the sun. I used a cut out from a showguard mount to hold the alignment of the stamp to the opening. I’d cut off the back down to just above the weld so it would hold the stamp and block minimal sunlight. Once in a while I needed to invert the stamp for a second look. It’s gotten lost in moving, but it’s not that hard to create one when needed.
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 312 ) on Feb-04-07 at 13:30:52 PST   Listings
JayJim Wimbledon Common and Putney Heath on left, Wimbledon Camp was near the Queens Mere (marked) and the All England Lawn Tennis Club is on the right..:o)

Map for our American Friends

Linda (off to work now, its 8.30am!)
Posted by iomoon   ( 1041 ) on Feb-04-07 at 13:26:09 PST   Listings
Another one.

W is for William Wordsworth.

Someone who knew how to write in coherent English.
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 312 ) on Feb-04-07 at 13:13:18 PST   Listings
Jay! they are not on the COMMON!! they are in Wimbledon propper.. down the high street.. It is acutally a beautiful and expensive suburb of London. the houses that are in the streets facing the Common are multi-million pound homes, I love walking around that area, and the pubs!!! loads of them all with lovely english beer, and outside drinking areas. You stroll around for 1/2 an hour, have a beer.. stroll a little further... another pub another beer. Quite a nice way to spend a summers day in Wimbledon
Posted by jaywild   ( 913 ) on Feb-04-07 at 13:04:28 PST   Listings
Lindy… Where are the tennis courts??

J

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by iomoon   ( 1041 ) on Feb-04-07 at 12:59:40 PST   Listings
Bilbo

Chinese catalog indicates sheets of 20 (4 x 5) and perf 12.
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 312 ) on Feb-04-07 at 12:48:51 PST   Listings
W is for WIMBLEDON Camp on Wimbledon Common / Putney Heath, London. A temporary post office was established for 2 weeks in July each year during the National Rifle Association Championships. These Queen Victoria stamps have been cancelled with the 1873 July 21st first type cds which was introduced in 1867

This postcard shows a view of the Entrance to Camp Wimbledon Common (in winter not in July!)

Linda

Posted by rclwa   ( 950 ) on Feb-04-07 at 12:39:39 PST   Listings
bjorn -- Hawaii was an independent country with its own stamps at that time. The really tough ones, that do exist, are Alaska (figure $3k) and the American consulate in Japan. Also they were used from Victoria BC in Canada (another very pricey one) to facilitate routing through the U.S. They actually kept stocks of US stamps in the Canadian post office, I believe. But many of the western states were still territories then, places like Colorado, Utah, Arizona, etc, and rather sparsely populated. One of these days I'll get all of them together and see which I still need.

Bob in WA
Posted by iomoon   ( 1041 ) on Feb-04-07 at 12:21:14 PST   Listings
Jim

Wales has a tradition of the male voice choir.
I'm guessing it started with the coal miners of South Wales.
Basically it was free and did not involve the rigorous exertions that they dealt with in their working lives.
However, the anthem brings back haunting memories of the mountains of North Wales which, before the emergence of Plaid Cymru, was the stronghold of the Welsh language.
When heard echoing off the walls of a stadium, sung by thousands of Welshmen, it is quite moving.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1041 ) on Feb-04-07 at 12:13:16 PST   Listings
Bilbo

Numbers are correct.
Sea Creatures released October 3rd 1990, Litho, perf 12 x 11 1/2
Apollo-Soyuz July 15th 1975, litho, perf 11 1/2
Cranes October 9th, 1994, photo and engraved, perf 11 x 11 1/2.
Posted by peetah   ( 460 ) on Feb-04-07 at 12:09:25 PST   Listings
bilbo Those look like "joint issues", with the USA
Posted by bilbo   ( 306 ) on Feb-04-07 at 12:01:11 PST   Listings
Hi all,

I wonder if some of you nice people might be able to help me out with some info on these sheets

Russian Sea Creatures
I think the Russian Scott numbers are 5933-5936, but I also need the other paticulars like release date, art numbers, Press type, and sheet layout if possible.

Russian Space Sheet
I think the Russian Scott numbers are 4339-4340, but I would like to get the same info as the above sheet if possible.

Two Chinese Birds Sheets
I think the Chinese Scott numbers for these two sheets are 2528-2529, but again, as much of the other information as is possible will be greatly appreciated.
Posted by bjornmu   ( 869 ) on Feb-04-07 at 11:56:09 PST   Listings
Bob in WA (WT), nice find. I suppose Hawaii is impossible?
Posted by rclwa   ( 950 ) on Feb-04-07 at 11:49:13 PST   Listings
W is for WT, which in both address and postmark stands for Washington Territory, one of the more elusive ones in my quest for a #114 (3¢ 1869 series) cover from each state, or whatever it was at the time. This was posted December 13, 1869. The 1870 census reported the population of Seattle, carved out of wilderness less than 20 years earlier, at 1107. The larger Olympia boasted 1203. This is frontier days, before railroads and the Panama Canal made getting here even remotely practical.

One of these days I'll have to explain the connection between this design and my bridge collection.

Bob in WA
Posted by jaywild   ( 913 ) on Feb-04-07 at 11:42:59 PST   Listings
Io… Oh I agree. Quite stirring.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by iomoon   ( 1041 ) on Feb-04-07 at 11:35:15 PST   Listings
peetah

I assume image is of Queen Beatrix.
They are "cinderellas".
Maarten or Paolo would know better than I.
Posted by bjornmu   ( 869 ) on Feb-04-07 at 11:14:34 PST   Listings
Rainer, I've previously seen a letter from you being sold at a Norwegian auction site, but now I'm seeing a letter to you for sale on eBay Germany! I can send you the item number if you're interested.
Posted by peetah   ( 460 ) on Feb-04-07 at 11:14:33 PST   Listings
iomoon Netherlands? Values?
Posted by iomoon   ( 1041 ) on Feb-04-07 at 11:11:43 PST   Listings
Jim

Yep.
Raises the hair on the back of my neck.

Peetah

They are local and field posts.
Posted by peetah   ( 460 ) on Feb-04-07 at 10:54:17 PST   Listings
jaywild Ok, now I am confused enough, LOL. If I can find an email addy to the Unitrade editor, I'll put the question to them. (Like Scott, one has to hunt to find the editor's email addy).
NOIP Any idea what the Scott numbers are for these
stamps are? Value? I suspect Netherlands, but........?
Posted by jaywild   ( 913 ) on Feb-04-07 at 10:47:46 PST   Listings
Peetah… Yes, I noticed that phrasing “factor” after my last post on the subject. I’m assuming it means “premium”, because if it just meant factor in the strict sense of the word, a 100% factor of CV would be the CV, and one would think NH would always sell for a premium over hinged.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by paperhistory   ( 1971 ) on Feb-04-07 at 10:47:36 PST   Listings
pro: buy the book before you buy too many postal cards on a theory they are varieties. Most of the "teeth" varieties are the result of uneven printing. They all need to be completely missing for the "variety" value - there's also a variety with 23 teeth instead of the normal (21?).

Would welcome any info you have on Ohio Doanes. Do you report new finds to the various state coordinators? Or is that one of those "round tuit" projects that we all have?
Posted by jaywild   ( 913 ) on Feb-04-07 at 10:45:18 PST   Listings
Io… So it must be this…

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by peetah   ( 460 ) on Feb-04-07 at 10:37:37 PST   Listings
jaywild Would have been easier if they gave the premium as 2X or 3X the MH value.
Hmmmm,Unitrade refers to it as "Pricing Factor" ? Is there some kind of algebraic meaning for factor?
Posted by jaywild   ( 913 ) on Feb-04-07 at 10:28:31 PST   Listings
Peetah… The wording is a little misleading. 100% of a CV of $5 is, of course, $5, but a premium of 100% means, to me at least, that 100% of the CV should be added to the original CV to get the NH value, in this case $5 + $5 = $10. So $15 is 300% of the original CV of $5, but represents only a premium of 200% over the original CV, i.e. $10.

Confused yet?

J

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by peetah   ( 460 ) on Feb-04-07 at 10:18:45 PST   Listings
Thanx jaywild Reason I asked is I was looking over my new Unitrade for Canada, and noted the Never Hinged "Pricing Factor" (up to 1948) and it set my mind to wondering. 100% of $5.00 is $5.00 so $5+$5 = $10.00 and 200% of $5.00 is $10.00 and $5+$10 = $15.00 but $15 is 300%
of $5.......isn't it?
Posted by iomoon   ( 1041 ) on Feb-04-07 at 10:06:41 PST   Listings
Jim

It's not official, but try telling a Welshman.

Mae hen wlad fy nhadau yn annwyl i mi,
Gwlad beirdd a chantorion, enwogion o fri;
Ei gwrol ryfelwyr, gwladgarwyr tra mad,
Tros ryddid collasant eu gwaed.

Cytgan
Gwlad, gwlad, pleidiol wyf i'm gwlad,
Tra môr yn fur
I'r bur hoffbau,
O bydded i'r heniaith barhau.
Posted by jaywild   ( 913 ) on Feb-04-07 at 10:04:52 PST   Listings
Peetah… A 100% premium, I would guess, would double the value. 200% would be 3 times the base value.

Just my 2¢ though…

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by jaywild   ( 913 ) on Feb-04-07 at 10:00:25 PST   Listings
Io… Which Welsh National anthem—I found both Bwrd yr Laith and Hen Wlad fy Nhadau using Google.

J

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by greenwave4u   ( 71 ) on Feb-04-07 at 09:59:14 PST   Listings
Jim Great link thanks for that!
Peter
Posted by prochute   ( 65 ) on Feb-04-07 at 09:55:22 PST   Listings
Where o' where did this chat board go?
Oh where o' where can it be?
It's lost with its tail 'tween its legs
Like a dog who runs from a flea!

To all who come here. Stop wasting your time like some of us who still believe one can learn something new abour stamps.

My advice is FORGET ABOUT IT. with apologies to Tony Montana
Posted by jaywild   ( 913 ) on Feb-04-07 at 09:55:16 PST   Listings
esmf02… For me, Ronsonol lighter fluid in a black tray is my favorite way of detecting watermarks. Black ceramic is better than black plastic, because the black is richer and darker.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by iomoon   ( 1041 ) on Feb-04-07 at 09:47:27 PST   Listings
Peter

I had to google it, Gareth Edwards' last game was in 1978, you can see a movie of "the try" here. Barry John quit in 1972. One of the memorable quotes was that he scored "one of the greatest conversions since that of St. Paul".

The games are almost worth going to just to hear the crowd sing the Welsh National anthem.
Posted by peetah   ( 460 ) on Feb-04-07 at 09:47:09 PST   Listings
Assuming a Mint Hinged stamp has a catalog value of $5.00,
what would the Dollar value be if MINT NEVER HINGED had a pricing factor of 100%? and what if the pricing factor was 200% ?
(Not looking to debate the word "Mint", just looking for the math, using just 2 variables 100% and 200%)
Posted by esmf02   ( 399 ) on Feb-04-07 at 09:37:20 PST   Listings
Thank you all for your advice. I appreciate it. *Flaming on a stamp board is dangerous....stamps burn, you know*
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 71 ) on Feb-04-07 at 09:33:08 PST   Listings
esmf02 I get good results and can recommend the Morley-Bright Roll-a-Tector provided the back of the stamp is clean, but no experience with the Washington/Franklins.
Peter
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 71 ) on Feb-04-07 at 09:29:07 PST   Listings
W is for William Shakespeare.


cheers

Peter
Posted by wrd3   ( 99 ) on Feb-04-07 at 09:22:15 PST   Listings
esmf02 I'm probably not the right person to give advice, since I detest Washington/Franklins precisely because I have a very tough time identifying watermarks (so I have glassines of W/Fs set aside for "another time"). From what I've read the non-fluid methods of detecting watermarks are not as good as the fluid methods (with the possible exception of some new expensive, high technology equipment being tried at one of the expertising groups). I use lighter fluid and a black ceramic tray for detecting watermarks. I've read "the best" fluid to detect watermarks is called Clarity, although I've also read it is expensive. I haven't tried it myself.

You've unfortunately stopped by during one of the not-infrequent flame wars. You may want to try asking questions on Richard Frajola's Board. Richard keeps the focus on discussions about stamps, and there are several experts on US stamps who post to that board regularly.

Bill D.
Posted by esmf02   ( 399 ) on Feb-04-07 at 09:14:41 PST   Listings
Thank you for the answers. As a follow-up to my watermarking question, is fluid and a tray the best answer? Is the Morley-Bright Roll-a-Tector any good? What about Safe Signoscope T2 Watermark Detector? Any value t these things or is the old fashioned way still the best bet?
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 71 ) on Feb-04-07 at 09:12:48 PST   Listings
Apologies for the bold
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 71 ) on Feb-04-07 at 09:12:28 PST   Listings
Jim Now you are showing your age, I can't remember when they last played:-) Come to think of it neither can I.

Paul Seems like one shot was not enough BANG :-))))
Posted by lloydstamps   ( 542 ) on Feb-04-07 at 08:26:40 PST   Listings
EXHIBITS SOUGHT FOR AMERICOVER 2007
Prospectus Now Available On Web Site Or By Mail

Exhibits are now being sought for Americover 2007, the American First Day Cover Society's annual convention and FDC show, which will be held Aug. 17-19 in Stamford, Conn.

Americover is a World Series of Philately show sanctioned by the American Philatelic Society, and its Grand Award winner is eligible to compete in the Champion of Champions exhibition the following summer.

"Having FDCs exhibits now a part of the C of C has elevated FDC exhibiting to the same level as Postal History or Aerophilately," said Andrew McFarlane, Americover 2005 Grand Award winner and the first exhibitor to represent Americover at Stampshow.

The Americover 2007 prospectus and exhibit application may be downloaded from the AFDCS Web site, www.afdcs.org, or requested by mail from Norman Elrod, 641 Dogwood Trail, McMinnville, TN 37110-3015, or e-mail at nelrod@infoave.net. A business-size self-addressed stamped envelope would be appreciated.

The emphasis at Americover is on First Day Cover exhibits, and about three-fourths of each exhibit should consist of FDCs. All three divisions (Postal, Illustrated Mail and Display) of the General class of exhibits will be accepted, as well as One-Frame and Youth exhibits.

In addition to the standard WSP exhibit awards and the Grand Award, the AFDCS offers special awards for research, foreign FDCs, single-frame, topical FDCs, and novice collectors, among others, and several other philatelic societies will make their awards available to Americover exhibitors, including the APS and the American Association of Philatelic Exhibitors.

A total of 160 frames are available on a first-come first-served basis. AFDCS membership is not required to exhibit. The deadline for entering the Americover 2007 exhibition is June 15, 2007, or whenever the available frames fill up.

"Winning the Grand at Americover was the highlight of my exhibiting experience to date," said McFarlane.

In addition to the exhibition, Americover 2007 features a commercial bourse, a cachetmakers' bourse, a banquet, an informal auction, a tour before the show, a dinner event on Sunday evening, meetings and seminars, and a hospitality suite. A U.S. first-day ceremony is likely, too.

Once again, the AFDCS has held the Americover room-rate under $100 a night at the show hotel, the Stamford Marriott Hotel & Spa in downtown Stamford. The site is convenient to trains and buses, and just 13 miles from the White Plains, NY, airport ("HPN").

For more information on Americover 2007, visit the AFDCS Web site, www.afdcs.org, or write Norman Elrod via e-mail at nelrod@infoave.net.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Feb-04-07 at 08:24:30 PST   Listings
went// not ///when
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Feb-04-07 at 08:23:49 PST   Listings
he was ///not// we was
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Feb-04-07 at 08:22:37 PST   Listings
To those reader who weren't around, we had a guy come on here with a very poor scan and claimed to have a printing error of the U.S. stamp of Dr. Salk ,we was not ford-coming with his answers and details but wanted everyone to get excited about what he had, So i called his bluff and the board when nuts ......but ...later it was determined not to be a great rarity and made a few here more Nuts ... as you can see a few still carry the illness today ....paul
Posted by iomoon   ( 1041 ) on Feb-04-07 at 08:16:21 PST   Listings
Peter

Correct.
I guess Wales misses the talents of Barry John and Gareth Edwards and the likes.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Feb-04-07 at 08:15:40 PST   Listings
JAYWILD ------Your behavior over my statement about interest rate market last June will also always be remembered by all the readers here .Your antics that crossed the line and your scrrilous,insulting behavior was reprensible Nobody who read this board will forget,.....back to stamps
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 71 ) on Feb-04-07 at 08:04:22 PST   Listings
Bang
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 71 ) on Feb-04-07 at 08:04:06 PST   Listings
JIm Wales who are losing 9-12 to Ireland in the rugby at the moment:-)
Peter
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Feb-04-07 at 08:03:26 PST   Listings
I GIVE UP ----somebody just shoot me
Posted by iomoon   ( 1041 ) on Feb-04-07 at 08:00:11 PST   Listings
Good day all.

W is for White Island.

Crossword clue:

Sounds like crying in your beer (5)!!!
Posted by jaywild   ( 913 ) on Feb-04-07 at 07:59:22 PST   Listings
Note to everyone who objects to non-stamp related posts on this board… Regarding my previous post, please ignore in its entirety.

J

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by saphilatelics   ( 402 ) on Feb-04-07 at 07:57:10 PST   Listings
NOIP
Before anyone gets excited about the Michel in English that knuden mentioned, it covers only selected areas before 1945. It is missing, among other things, the German States.
Posted by jaywild   ( 913 ) on Feb-04-07 at 07:56:35 PST   Listings
Paul… Lest the truth become even more mired in obfuscation, I was one of the “few” on this board who “went nuts” in reference to your behavior regarding the Salk error sheet linked on the board by a user named patina. But it was not because you said the sheet had no value, it was because you deliberately and repeatedly called patina a liar on this board, based on no evidence whatever other than the promptings of your insatiable ego. Up until that time I ignored your antics, but for me that crossed the line. You are still operating on the far side of that line when you try to deny your scurrilous, insulting behavior toward patina. If you’re going to continue to bring up that reprehensible incident, don’t sugarcoat it. I will see to it that everyone is reminded of what really happened.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by knuden   ( 2198 ) on Feb-04-07 at 07:43:57 PST   Listings
Paul - Fair enough. :O) But for Germany, Scott is useless. As Rainer say, Michel is much better. Even the most simplified Michel catalog is way ahead Scott. My best advise for collectors of Germany is to buy a Michel catalog (there is just issued one in english for the part up to 1945).

K.E   I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!
Posted by 22028   ( 1551 ) on Feb-04-07 at 07:35:11 PST   Listings
Paul, sorry, what do you want to know about these stamps? They are listed in German Michel catalogue under Germany, Russian Zone, just to be followed by DDR.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Feb-04-07 at 07:22:52 PST   Listings
FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO FOLLOW THE DISCUSSION Here is what we are talking about .I said the thin transparent paper looks gray on the scan . SAXONY....paul
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Feb-04-07 at 07:10:39 PST   Listings
KNUDEN ----everybody known the stamps were issued under Russian occupation but the U.S. catlogs list them under DDR ,so trying to help my friend Vinny so he can find it in the catalog .If I said just Saxony that would put him in another part of the Scott catalog ......hope this explains it better
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Feb-04-07 at 07:04:28 PST   Listings
KNUDEN-----Why don't we wait for another poster to read what i said ,and he can help out .

I think i said it looks like thin transparent paper because of the gray color in the scan not that its gray ------PLEASE SOMEONE READ THE TWO POSTINGS AGAIN AND HELP .

Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Feb-04-07 at 06:52:14 PST   Listings
DANA ----Thanks for your posting ,If i remember correctly i did state you did the research and your view point about the Salk sheet was the correct one and was changing my view to the one you posted .I didn't think the sheet had much value and that made a few here go nuts .Overtime my view was correct it wasn't a true error .Some even posted that i was in co-hoots with the owner .....paul
Posted by knuden   ( 2198 ) on Feb-04-07 at 06:52:00 PST   Listings
Stamps12345 - A small correction to your message. Vinny's stamp is correct from the Saxony Province but not from DDR, as DDR first was formed as a state Oct. 7, 1949. The stamp can't be the one in gray paper, as this was from 1945 and unperfed. It's more like it's from the issue from 1946, which have very thin paper (Zigarettenpapier). *smile*

K.E   I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!
Posted by jaywild   ( 913 ) on Feb-04-07 at 06:42:29 PST   Listings
esmf02… To elaborate on Dana’s point, here is how an entire W-F pane with single line watermark looks. (The stamps are indicated by the rectangles.) As can be seen, there are some stamps which show very little of the U S P S, notably, among others, the ones denoted with a small red X.

The problem is of such importance that I believe a Scott catalog number, of a supposed 30 cent unwatermarked Franklin stamp, is in the process of being delisted because of the evolving belief that stamps regarded for years as unwatermarked are in reality merely those that occurred in parts of the sheet where the watermark doesn’t show. I will post more details later—if anyone happens to get PSE’s Stamps Quarterly there’s an article in the issue I got the other day on this topic.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Feb-04-07 at 06:28:54 PST   Listings
VINNY -----There is one stamp the others missed ,the second stamp on the last row is a DDR stamp from the saxony province {scott 13n16}.It looks like the thin transparent paper because of the gray color in your scan ....wanted others to review it first but they are all correct but two other stamps are too small to identify .
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1212 ) on Feb-04-07 at 03:26:27 PST   Listings
Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all


In keeping with the "V" theme here’s a cover from the Blitzkrieg New, a stamp newsletter from Wabash, Indiana that used precancels on this cover it’s a Wabash 734.

Jim L.
Posted by vinnysf   ( 295 ) on Feb-04-07 at 01:06:38 PST   Listings
paul is just here to stir everyone up on purpose.. you all shouldn't keep feeding into it. nobody really acts like that
Posted by billsey   ( 840 ) on Feb-03-07 at 22:59:15 PST   Listings
I've got a Morley-Bright watermark detector I picked up as part of a box lot a couple of years ago. Do they work well on the W-Fs? I know the stamp color wouldn't make any difference with them, but I don't know how deep the watermark 'grooves' are in the paper on those.

Someday I'll get back on my US collection and see what I really got back in the '70s. :-)
Posted by dkru   ( 354 ) on Feb-03-07 at 22:21:38 PST   Listings
esmf02...Watermarking the W-F's can be tough, especially in the case of some of the yellow and light blue varieties. If you are using fluid, make sure your tray has a good dark, preferably black, background. For used varieties, water can sometimes bring out the watermark more clearly than fluid. Before deciding that any of them are unwatermarked, be certain that there are no traces of single line letters along the edges. There are some blank spots on the single line sheets which cover almost an entire stamp back.

Dana

Posted by esmf02   ( 399 ) on Feb-03-07 at 22:10:54 PST   Listings
Even though I have been collecting for years, I feel like I don't know the best way to determine watermarks, especially for the Washingtons and Franklins. I am never really quite sure I have gotten it right. Does anyone think there is a right or foolproof way to go about testing for watermarks? I would be pleased to learn something new. Thanks.
Posted by dkru   ( 354 ) on Feb-03-07 at 22:07:53 PST   Listings
Hello all. I sit down tonight to read the stamp chat board after a few weeks away and what do I find? I find I am one of the featured subjects in the latest food fight! Geez!

stamps12345...Paul, those of my album pages posted on Mitch's site all have my name on them and always have.

antonius ra...Mitch, while never offering a clear apology for his prior remarks regarding that Salk error, he did acknowledge that it was a genuine printing error after on of my posts.

But don't let me interupt, let the fun continue. Best regards, Dana

Posted by jaywild   ( 913 ) on Feb-03-07 at 21:50:44 PST   Listings
Me too, chaswilly. Productive posts which show links to stamps/postal history are much desired over those which merely bemoan the lack of same.

J
Posted by chaswilly   ( 1593 ) on Feb-03-07 at 21:49:11 PST   Listings
Ranier pretty much the same stuff, Infla, Österreich and Lombary Venetia classic.
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 312 ) on Feb-03-07 at 21:40:41 PST   Listings
Yes Chaswilly most of us love stamps and postal history, what are you going to show us that is interesting?

Any linked scans are always welcome, particularly our weekly LETTER OF THE WEEK.. Its V still, W tomorrow... however we are happy to look at any interesting / unusual or even pretty ordinary items.... post away!!

Linda
Posted by 22028   ( 1551 ) on Feb-03-07 at 21:38:39 PST   Listings
chaswilly, yes I do care..., what do you collect? For my collecting fields, check my me page.
Posted by chaswilly   ( 1593 ) on Feb-03-07 at 21:35:35 PST   Listings
Been lurking the last week, seems the more things change, the more they stay the same. Does anyody really care about stamps or postal history?
Posted by jaywild   ( 913 ) on Feb-03-07 at 21:01:48 PST   Listings
Pro… Nice Oct 5 cancel. Yes, those are Wessons.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by due2cents   ( 24 ) on Feb-03-07 at 20:39:38 PST   Listings
Thanks Matt and Dave S.
Guess I'll go back and get all the errors he had
the fact that they all have Wesson TOB is just a bonus.
There were a few different type errors all involving the teeth. Just little points, just the bottoms,and of course the missing one I picked up.
Matt because I brought home over 1500 new items today(and have plans for the morrow) I do not know which bundle where I put it but monday or tuesday will share a NEW ohio doane. Maybe 2.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1041 ) on Feb-03-07 at 19:49:25 PST   Listings
sheltonrc27rca

I think you just broke the record with seven spelling and grammatical errors in one of your sentences.
Posted by paperhistory   ( 1971 ) on Feb-03-07 at 19:34:45 PST   Listings
pro: yes, those are Wessons. Standard postal card reference is the United States Postal Card Catalog, which I think is published by the United Postal Stationery Society ever 5 years (last edition 2005). The missing teeth is a known variety which cataloged $25 in 2000.
Posted by nomad55   ( 863 ) on Feb-03-07 at 19:34:19 PST   Listings
Pro - the time on bottom markings are called Wessons, named after the manufacturer.
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1212 ) on Feb-03-07 at 19:29:07 PST   Listings
shelton27rca
Welcome to the Stamp Chat Board.
More and more were seeing stamps sold before the first day of issue. I doubt that there would be much premium for your envelope. It’s a nice item that I’d keep rather than sell.



In keeping with the "V" theme here’s a few more Valentine theme cards from the Kokomo Stamps Club:
card 25-2.

card 29-2.

card 20-2.

Jim L.
Posted by rich-in-pa   ( 202 ) on Feb-03-07 at 19:28:56 PST   Listings
stamps12345...Paul,I have tried not to get involved with your crap on this board but since you brought my name into this I will explain it to you.
When Mitch put his collection online he asked for help with some British Commonwealth,since his Dad had that part. I contacted him to offer scans of my collection.
We never talked about him putting my name on the scans.I assumed since he was just trying to put a reference on line so if someone needed to look at a specific stamp it would be there.Quite frankly I never cared.
Mitch, of course,took the high road and credited Dana's and my pages,which they still are.He was not trying to show anyone that he had "The worlds greatest stamp collection".
He also never claimed to own the stamps that Dana and I have on his web site,which you have claimed many times.
I have spoken to Mitch many times via phone calls and can say nothing but good things about him. I am proud to call him a friend,though we have never met in person.I wish I lived closer to him for I have a standing invitation to visit as he does from me.
If you haven't noticed,you are driving people away from this board with this constant one-upmanship thing with David.
If you need constant approval for everything you do,I suggest you go elsewhere because coming here and bragging about everything in your life isn't working.
P.S.
I am happy for you that your daughter is back home.
Rich Degillio
Posted by shelton27rca   ( 0 )   on Feb-03-07 at 19:15:20 PST   Listings
i have a ronald regan stamp poastmarked the day b4 the offical release it has never benn mailed the envelope is unsealed probally 1 of a kind any ideas on wht is worth
Posted by due2cents   ( 24 ) on Feb-03-07 at 19:12:46 PST   Listings
Jaywild's other link
Oct5
i thought neat because of origin and then of course the Rec'd 5 oct
Posted by due2cents   ( 24 ) on Feb-03-07 at 19:06:23 PST   Listings
Jaywild
Is this an example of the Time on bottom cancels you guys were discusing the other day.
Also is there a reference work for errors on Postal cards
Notice the missing points on the one

Time-on-bottom

I saw a batch of these today from a few different cities,
only got a couple did not know if 4 bucks too much.
Also picked up something I thought you might like
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 312 ) on Feb-03-07 at 17:48:49 PST   Listings
Hello blueff welcome to the board. A good starting place is the links provided in the BIG YELLOW BOX, posted on this board every day. scroll back and check it out.

next step would be to give us some idea of the stamps, countries?, dates? mint? used? etc. and maybe link to a scan of some of them (please post links, not actual pics here).

Linda
Posted by blueff102   ( 0 ) on Feb-03-07 at 17:33:35 PST   Listings
Looking for someone I can trust, to tell me what i have in stamps? can any one help.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 615 ) on Feb-03-07 at 17:13:18 PST   Listings
David Thank you
Posted by stamphick!   ( 334 ) on Feb-03-07 at 17:12:24 PST   Listings
stampoffers is getting to implement a completely new script and the site has been taken down. It will be back up soon, specific time unannounced. You will have to re-register on teh new site and everything will start over from scratch except your feedback (if you re-register with your old ID).

A temporary chat has been set up for further announcements and general chatting during the changeover. temporary chat.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 615 ) on Feb-03-07 at 17:05:51 PST   Listings
Anyone have a current link to stampoffers? They were making lots of changes and I cannot get my old link to come up.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7808 ) on Feb-03-07 at 16:33:59 PST   Listings
Paul and also for your info it has not yet been decided if there will any dealers stalls in St. Petersburg, Russia in the upcoming exhibition as there has been a problem with Russian Customs & Taxation over import, export & sales,

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7808 ) on Feb-03-07 at 16:31:22 PST   Listings
Paul, you completely lost me with your comment about judging and scanning and sales. Judging has nothing to do with the stamp trade and while we are on a run I checked the budget for Malaga and the major income was for the Post offices sales of surcharged souvenir sheets. The amount raised from dealers stands was minimal as there was very few and the rental charge was low,

David B.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 615 ) on Feb-03-07 at 16:19:57 PST   Listings
Jim O.K. on that point.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Feb-03-07 at 16:19:20 PST   Listings
DAVID ------YOUR RIGHT ABOUT THE JUDGING .....the stamp trade doesn't like the scanning thing ,guess it hurts sales and the right of ownership can't be proven or is more diffecult .
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Feb-03-07 at 16:15:04 PST   Listings
JIM ---Im having a good weekend ,so far i rolled over those CD's that I discussed with Jaywild back in June ,the ones at 5.80% ,to new ones at 5.40% for the next 7 months ,rates are going down.

Also tonight taking the wife to meet up with others that i work out with to watch the UFC fighting matchs on a 50" screen at a sports bar ,should be a good night of fights{ultimate fighting} .

Then tomorrow should be fun two good teams and two excellent coachs ,will be fun which ever way it goes ....paul

Posted by dbenson   ( 7808 ) on Feb-03-07 at 16:14:14 PST   Listings
Paul, apology accepted for both your comments about the School Tax stamps & the London judging,

David B.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Feb-03-07 at 16:03:27 PST   Listings
HEY MITCH ---What ever happen to that guy trying to sell that error ,I thought i said Dana was right when he posted his statement about the Salk stamp,can you check with him . Your thinking abilities have been slipping can you check with him ,im sure he will remember .
Posted by iomoon   ( 1041 ) on Feb-03-07 at 16:01:04 PST   Listings
Can we please leave this discussion on schools and instruction with an apology from Paul.

We all know Chicago is going to be at the losing end of the superbowl tomorrow. :-) (actually, I really don't care who wins, as long as it's a good game).

Let's not make his weekend totally a misery.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 615 ) on Feb-03-07 at 16:00:36 PST   Listings
Paul You are so wrapped up within your own B.S. that you seem to forget that Richard D. and Dana still read this board. I'm sure they will support your comment if correct! LoL
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Feb-03-07 at 15:55:55 PST   Listings
mitch----what can i say ,the only thing about the scans you show as your stamp collection is that over time the names of Dana and Richard Degillio have been removed off the title pages of each country collection .

Im also sad to report that the London 2010 show will not judge or have a large showing of ditigal collections as I originally posted here seems there is a big problem with reproduction abduction .This RA factor needs to be address more serious .Would it be ok if i use your websities as a sample in a report to the committee .....paul

Posted by dbenson   ( 7808 ) on Feb-03-07 at 15:41:06 PST   Listings
Mitch, I think that Paul has just realised that there were 2 more issues after the so called JOINT issue but he never knew about them as they are not listed in his bible, Scott's. It was only after I mentioned them and he saw them listed in his newly acquired references which he got from the APS yesterday that he was up Sxxx Creek without a paddle and the only way out is to try to stifle the discussion.

He can rant and rave all he likes, call people all sorts of names but unless he can explain why they issued 2 more sets for School Revenues he has no option but to go give up.

At the moment he is on the count of 9 and asking the referee for a draw,


David B.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 615 ) on Feb-03-07 at 15:31:42 PST   Listings
Sorry to some but this bozo will not go away and I am not Godly enough to ignore the crap he puts on the board.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 615 ) on Feb-03-07 at 15:27:18 PST   Listings
D2 You said "no, Paul, it's not over til you admit you are wrong, no need trying to change the subject"

Curious, although I am not your lap dog, I was thinking about saying the same thing!
Of course it would be totally pointless.
You know as well as I (and most here), it is totally "beneath" him to apologize for bustin balls (which he lives for). Probably just a jealous Freudian thing.
He has only apologized once as far as I can recall and that was a couple months ago. His purpose is to raise as much grief as possible (as he has said), he does that well but in a mind nubbing fashion.
I always thought if he was to back down and apologize for anything it would be for this
He called the owner a liar for nearly two months but never apologized for his B.S. even when it came back as a printing error.
What a complete and utter joke.
The only thing I can console myself with (having to live with such a shmuck on this planet) is that I have more better/stamps.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7808 ) on Feb-03-07 at 14:29:22 PST   Listings
member & Dunc,

here is the full text of the article on Mr. Darori about the fake disinfection handstamps,

G.B. : FAKED DISINFECTION CACHETS
by William A. King et al.

Marks purporting to be disinfection cachets have been created on early British ‘Free Frank’ fronts, offered on eBay. (There are parallel investigations into 20th century covers with “water damaged” marks and various ‘official’ seals : also U.S. ‘patriotic’ covers from 1861 with “Received in Wet Condition” marks.)

The doubtful items were offered using various eBay user ID’s. All led back to sellers Stephen and Netta Darori. At this time we have no proof that they were the actual producers, but their attitude when asked legitimate questions gives cause for concern.

The eBay ‘watchers’ : This report could not have been prepared without the very active assistance of eBay members throughout the world. Many are philatelists who are also members of Royal Philatelic Society London, American Philatelic Society, Scottish Postal History Society etc. We are particularly indebted to the A.P.S. for their help in advising eBay to act, based on their own findings. Our thanks particularly go to President Janet Klug, Frank Sente, Ephraim Day and Mercer Bristow And very special thanks to my colleagues in SPHS : Stephen Parkin, Rex Clark and Ian Cowan. Seeing six examples at the Dunblane meeting convinced us that all were fake.

Summary : It is great credit to the worldwide philatelic community that so many philatelists in so many countries, most of whom never met or even corresponded with the others before, contributed their knowledge, time and arguments for (and against!) these items. None of us know enough about the subject to be certain, but as the contributions came in and the arguments and evidence was collated, it became clear that there was indeed a problem, with genuine items being enhanced with spurious additional marks. The perpetrators knew that collectors all aspire to that ‘special’ item in our collections.. This is unlikely to be a final report, since these people will probably try again, but while they may disguise their names they are unlikely to be able to sell ‘DISINFECTED’ material on eBay.

Mmost of the ‘research’ was of a very elementary nature. These were such obviously bogus marks – AMONIA spelt with one ‘M’, SULFUR instead of the British ‘sulphur’ - that they should have deceived no-one. But as I wrote to our member, Dr. Graham Lowe, who sent me the research, “the sad thing is that more than thirty years after the foundation of a worldwide specialist society on this very topic, no-one concerned (other than Graham) thought fit to ask questions of the Disinfected Mail S.C.. My address and Email - our mailbox - are readily available, and any major postal history dealer or auctioneer in the U.K. would have put an enquirer in touch. We must ask why collectors generally are so restricted in their thinking, that they do not seek out obvious sources of information”

Graham kindly notified the great many collectors and societies who participated in this project of how they might subscribe to Pratique. We have not had a single response. Given the number of collectors gagging to acquire ‘rare disinfection markings’, is this not sad? Even now, they are presumably unaware that Great Britain NEVER used cachets or endorsements of disinfection, and that it is unlikely that domestic British mail was ever treated, let alone with sulphur or ammonia.
Posted by claghorn1p   ( 409 ) on Feb-03-07 at 14:23:35 PST   Listings
Maarten cool triangles
Posted by dbenson   ( 7805 ) on Feb-03-07 at 14:23:26 PST   Listings
no, Paul, it's not over til you admit you are wrong, no need trying to change the subject,


I repeat,

CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE REASON FOR THE WORD INSTRUCCION on the 1904 & 1911 SCHOOL TAX STAMPS

You have also changed the meaning from Joint meaning joint running of the country by unknown foreign powers to your new description, Joint sale in Europe of the stamps, make up your mind,

David B.
Posted by wrd3   ( 99 ) on Feb-03-07 at 14:01:21 PST   Listings
paperhistory and jim_lawler thank you for the feedback on the cancels on the 3 cent Washingtons. Jim - if I put them up I'll let you know. I haven't yet sold anything on eBay ... but I was pushed higher than I wanted to go on the lot, so I'm considering getting rid of stuff I don't want to minimize my costs.

Also in the lot were several items I don't recognize. Can anyone tell me what the following are? I assume they are Russian due to the writing.
Item 1: side 1, side 2
Item 2: side 1, side 2
Item 3: side 1, side 2
Item 4:side 1, side 2.

FWIW the "V" entries to date are here.

Bill D.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 615 ) on Feb-03-07 at 13:56:24 PST   Listings
Ken I don't think there could be much doubt that the person was wondering what the color of the overprint was on the 10c on 75c.

Thanks for the headsup but I didn't need any of those Venezuelan SCHOOL TAX STAMPS

I'm sorry I brought that subject up.....who woulda thought?
Posted by claghorn1p   ( 409 ) on Feb-03-07 at 13:48:43 PST   Listings
IO Jim Seller says it has no Watermark so it must be a forgery. I wonder what you think? Queen looks a little sad.
Posted by claghorn1p   ( 409 ) on Feb-03-07 at 13:42:04 PST   Listings
Maarten Triangles like THIS are impressive. TOo bad.
Posted by bjornmu   ( 868 ) on Feb-03-07 at 13:40:30 PST   Listings
And the Czech s don't belong, perhaps they should have been Montenegrins.
Posted by bjornmu   ( 868 ) on Feb-03-07 at 13:38:40 PST   Listings
Ken C, he wants to see whether the "1894" on the 75c stamp is 14 or 14 1/2 mm wide. He needed the 200c to compare, since that can only be 14mm. Unfortunately for you, the 75c appears to be 14 1/2 mm.

This from my 1993 Scott.
Posted by knuden   ( 2198 ) on Feb-03-07 at 13:35:08 PST   Listings
jaywild - It's because the guy forgot to tell about the 12 Serbian and 8 Slovenian stamps. :O)

K.E   I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!
Posted by jaywild   ( 913 ) on Feb-03-07 at 13:27:52 PST   Listings
kchrist... Your guy can't add--12+6+6+6 = 30, not 50!!
Posted by kchrist499   ( 1093 ) on Feb-03-07 at 13:23:39 PST   Listings
Let me try that link again: Here!
Posted by kchrist499   ( 1093 ) on Feb-03-07 at 13:19:45 PST   Listings
David B & stamps12345 (Paul)

I never thought I'd see the day when you both agreed on something (the Croatian stamp)! The trouble is, I don't know what I'm going to do with them all.

There are 16 souvenir sheets, 12 blocks of 4, 1 block of 10 with the overprint and a bunch of singles and pairs. Reminds me of the Bob in WA story:

A guy goes to a stamp dealer and says "May I sell you 50 Croatian stamps?"

The clerk says, "What denomination?"

The guy says, "I've got 12 Yugoslavs, 6 Bosnians, 6 Czechs and 6 Herzegovinas."

On another peculiar note, I'm auctioning off a bunch of Guatemalia stamps. This morning I got an email request for enlargements of two of the stamps here which made me wonder why those two? He has bid on the lot, but I suspect he must see something in those two that I don't.

Any thoughts?

Ken C.

Posted by stamps54321   ( 6 ) on Feb-03-07 at 12:51:07 PST   Listings
stamps12345It's high time you ignored Sydney. He just needs to get the last dig in. Poor soul! Besides, the Gibbon's cataloges are just glorified sales brochures and nothing more and yet he thinks it's gospel!
Your friend,
Luap
Posted by duncan_doenitz   ( 109 ) on Feb-03-07 at 12:49:58 PST   Listings
Jeez. Jeopardy is a word - and the name of the game. Jeapordy is not.

-Dunc
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Feb-03-07 at 12:49:14 PST   Listings
KEN ---That stamp also comes in a souvenir sheet Croatia s/s ....paul
Posted by rclwa   ( 950 ) on Feb-03-07 at 12:45:28 PST   Listings
A woman goes to her post office at Christmas time and says to the clerk, ''May I have 50 Christmas stamps?''

The clerk says, ''What denomination?''

The woman says, ''Heaven help us. Has it come to this? Give me 6 Catholic, 12 Presbyterian, 10 Lutheran and 22 Baptists.''

Bob in WA
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Feb-03-07 at 12:37:51 PST   Listings
DAVID B. ----WE BEAT THE SUBJECT TO DEATH ....I think we should let it go
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Feb-03-07 at 12:35:56 PST   Listings
DUNCAN ---That was a great car ,it was a "medical doctors car" .I would get stopped by the police every weekend ,looking like a young hippie and had to explain to the cops im not a drug dealer but a commodity broker .
Posted by duncan_doenitz   ( 109 ) on Feb-03-07 at 12:26:47 PST   Listings
Thanks for the Young Turks story, Paul! It seemed logical that there would be a connection between you and Milton Friedman, given your financial background.

Oh, and long as we are identifying Cinderellas today, is this a Chicago Local from those "good old days"?

Chicago

Oh, and new poster member9991241, it appears that everyone is being careful what they say in answer to your question - that is, they don't want to say anything bad about recent eBay auctions even if they are of fraudulent merchandise, because eBay frowns on what they call "auction interference". You can probably tell by the silence though that what they might tell you would not be good news. Many of the people who post here are quite active on eBay and don't want to put themselves in jeapordy.

A word of caution - it would be very simple for a seller to obtain rubber stamps and use them fraudulently on postal items to turn common two-bit stamps or covers into something that, if genuine, would be of considerably more value.

I'm just saying...

-Dunc
Posted by dbenson   ( 7805 ) on Feb-03-07 at 12:25:32 PST   Listings
Paul,

still waiting for an answer on this,

CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE REASON FOR THE WORD INSTRUCCION on the 1904 & 1911 SCHOOL TAX STAMPS

David B.
Posted by bjornmu   ( 868 ) on Feb-03-07 at 12:23:39 PST   Listings
Ken C., yes this was issued for a philatelic exhibition in Zagreb in 1943, both with and without red overprint. The overprinted stamp cats for 12 Euros in Michel.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Feb-03-07 at 12:18:15 PST   Listings
KNUDEN Thanks for your help ,with that site was able to translate the Spanish from the Venezulea catalog.Here it is with translation. CATALOG with translation. .Thanks again it just shows with your help we can now say TRUTH GOES OUT THE WINDOW IN THIS CHAT ROOM if the Chile poster doesn't like the person .He should of said the catalogs he was looking at only had one sentence on the subject ,but who cares about the truth ......lol....paul
Posted by iomoon   ( 1040 ) on Feb-03-07 at 11:42:18 PST   Listings
Bill C

Looks like the Ionian Isles have returned to Britain!!
Posted by knuden   ( 2198 ) on Feb-03-07 at 11:33:47 PST   Listings
stamps12345 - I don't know anything about these overprinted stamps in mention but try to use this tool and see what it comes up with. :O)

K.E   I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!
Posted by iomoon   ( 1040 ) on Feb-03-07 at 11:32:36 PST   Listings
Seeing as I now have a lot more storage space, I put the SG color chart back up on my website.
I can also get a V is for Violet out of it (fifth row).

page 2

page 3

page 4
Posted by claghorn1p   ( 409 ) on Feb-03-07 at 11:26:55 PST   Listings
IO Jim What about THIS
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1209 ) on Feb-03-07 at 11:13:42 PST   Listings
Bill D. (wrd3)
While I don’t recognize any of them off the top of my head there are some nice cancels there. Especially the second stamp in the first row and the 5th stamp on the 4th row
I hope I notice them when you list them. (Hint, hint)
Jim L.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7805 ) on Feb-03-07 at 11:08:22 PST   Listings
kchrist, you will find it listed under Croatia 1943,

David B.
Posted by paperhistory   ( 1971 ) on Feb-03-07 at 11:07:15 PST   Listings
wrd: The second stamp in the first row and the 5th stamp on the 4th row are pretty ornate for corks. They may be identifiable by town but I'm not sure. But certainly worth putting aside.
Posted by kchrist499   ( 1093 ) on Feb-03-07 at 11:06:05 PST   Listings
Greetings all;>/b>

What in the world (or out of it) do I have here?

I'm not sure that its even a stamp... perhaps a cinderella? I found a bunch of these in an old collection of Eastern European material.

Thanks for your past help.

Ken C.

Posted by dbenson   ( 7805 ) on Feb-03-07 at 11:03:07 PST   Listings
claghorn, thanks, I don't think anyone is disputing the fact that all of the Escuelas & Instruccion stamps are Revenues originally issued to pay a tax to raise funds for schools but the whole philatelic population of the world, past & present(except 1) accepts that the term Escuelas translates to Schools & the word Instruccion translates to Instruction.

David B.
Posted by wrd3   ( 99 ) on Feb-03-07 at 10:47:33 PST   Listings
This page of 3 cent Washington stamps was in a box lot of perfins I bought at a local auction. Before I put these stamps into my duplicates file I thought I'd ask if any of the cancels are recognizable and/or should be set aside for if/when I decide to start getting rid of duplicates on eBay.

Bill D.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7805 ) on Feb-03-07 at 10:43:26 PST   Listings
dcderoo,

25 Pounds,

David B.
Posted by dcderoo   ( 1648 ) on Feb-03-07 at 10:36:10 PST   Listings
I need a recent SG catalogue value for Jamaica SB13.
My SG British Commonwealth catalogue is a 1994 which doesn't help much.
Posted by bjornmu   ( 868 ) on Feb-03-07 at 10:31:35 PST   Listings
lluehhb, CYE!
Posted by lluehhhb   ( 238 ) on Feb-03-07 at 10:29:36 PST   Listings
detail of inverted PM
Posted by lluehhhb   ( 238 ) on Feb-03-07 at 10:28:42 PST   Listings
Bjorn,

Some days ago I posted this big cover for you (< a href="http://www.dcc.uchile.cl/~mobilino/chatboard/detail.jpg">detail of inverted PM) Since it's somewhat big I don't know if you want it or not. If you like it email me your address and I'll mail it to you.
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Posted by claghorn1p   ( 409 ) on Feb-03-07 at 10:28:13 PST   Listings
The escuellas and Instruccion were revenue stamps which were also "made available for postage by official decree" mostly for domestic use in the counry but some also for international mail
Posted by vinnysf   ( 295 ) on Feb-03-07 at 10:22:14 PST   Listings
cool thanks for the info iomoon and billsey...mucho appreciated!
Posted by dbenson   ( 7805 ) on Feb-03-07 at 09:49:28 PST   Listings
Paul, I didn't query the comment about discounts and I am glad you got some info from the article that the APS sent you but you have not or refuse to answer a simple question.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE REASON FOR THE WORD INSTRUCCION on the 1904 & 1911 SCHOOL TAX STAMPS,

No good calling names, such as Catalog experts, Lapdogs, Bottom Feeders, Translators & Clowns and who is this retired carpet cleaner you are raving about now,

Your comments do not make sense & I suggest you should do a lot more research,

David B.
Posted by bjornmu   ( 868 ) on Feb-03-07 at 09:13:24 PST   Listings
Jaywild, thanks for the inverted PM alert but the seller doesn't take Paypal and may or may not ship to Norway so I'm not sure if I'll bother...
Posted by 22028   ( 1551 ) on Feb-03-07 at 09:02:53 PST   Listings
iomoon, thanks...
Posted by stamphick!   ( 334 ) on Feb-03-07 at 08:56:13 PST   Listings
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Posted by keleofa   ( 3360 ) on Feb-03-07 at 08:53:22 PST   Listings
Jim,

Right! Except the Prexies (the stamp set) were issued in 1938 so I had to come up with Ford and Bush on my own!

Matt in Arizona
Posted by iomoon   ( 1040 ) on Feb-03-07 at 08:51:39 PST   Listings
Rainer

Members have until the end of february to express an opinion.
Application is then presented to the council for approval which I think meets on March 1st.
Posted by jaywild   ( 913 ) on Feb-03-07 at 08:49:13 PST   Listings
As of 1998, Polk, Pierce, Grant, Hayes, Taft, Ford & Bush.
Posted by 22028   ( 1551 ) on Feb-03-07 at 08:44:20 PST   Listings
iomoon, thanks, the names are correct..., do know how long it takes until I am approved?
Posted by billsey   ( 840 ) on Feb-03-07 at 08:42:03 PST   Listings
Vinny, The left stamp on the top row is Turkey, from the late 1890s. You can see a better scan of one here. The left stamp on the second row is also Turkey, from 1913. Here's a better scan. The one at the far right of that row is Yugoslavia, specifically Slovenia newspaper issues of 1919. Here's a couple of examples. Finally, the one just to the left of that gray one is also Yugoslavia, again Slovenia, 1920 regular issues. This is what mine looks like.

The rest are just too small for me to make out, though I think I agree on the Bosnia ID on that gray one next to the Turkey 1913 and the Manchuko issues at the bottom.
Posted by keleofa   ( 3360 ) on Feb-03-07 at 08:39:00 PST   Listings
Jim,

Prexies

I was at an APS Show in Cleveland (1998?) and was flying from Cleveland to LA when flying was still enjoyable. The pilot had a contest - there were 7 US Presidents with a one syllable last name - name them and win a nice bottle of wine. Well, I had bought Prexies at the Show and was reading it on the plane. Took me about 30 seconds to win the bottle of wine!

The book is an excellent reference and enjoyable reading. Each denomination has its own chapter. 343 pages of non-stop Prexie thrills.

Matt in Arizona
Posted by iomoon   ( 1040 ) on Feb-03-07 at 08:38:34 PST   Listings
Rainer

It is in the Jan/Feb issue of London Phil with Harald as proposer and Michael as seconder.
Posted by 22028   ( 1551 ) on Feb-03-07 at 08:34:15 PST   Listings
iomoon, where have you seen it? It took almost 3 month to arrive!!!!
Posted by jaywild   ( 913 ) on Feb-03-07 at 08:32:13 PST   Listings
Matt in AZ… Wow, thanks. So Rustad’s book is the one to get? I’ve seen one on eBay written by someone named Helbock, specifically for the prexies.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by keleofa   ( 3360 ) on Feb-03-07 at 08:27:29 PST   Listings
Jim,

$1.00 Prexie Solo Use - Yes

Airmail to Philippines prior to WWII 50c per 1/2 oz, after Nov 1 1946 there existed airmail rates of 25c per ounce. In Rustad's book he also calculated a domestic rate of 3c 1st class+20c minimum registry+77c surcharge for $7,000 excess value based on 11c per $1000.

Matt in Arizona
Posted by iomoon   ( 1040 ) on Feb-03-07 at 08:19:17 PST   Listings
V is for Victoria Cross.

Rainer

I saw your application arrived at the Royal.
Posted by jaywild   ( 913 ) on Feb-03-07 at 08:06:34 PST   Listings
This guy needs to read a history book…

J

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by iomoon   ( 1040 ) on Feb-03-07 at 07:54:21 PST   Listings
Good day all.

From a warming west Texas.

Vinny

The yellow one on the bottom line is also Manchukuo.
The baby stamp is Yugoslavia.
Posted by jaywild   ( 913 ) on Feb-03-07 at 07:52:04 PST   Listings
NOIP… Are there any legitimate solo uses of the dollar value prexies? I don’t recall seeing any, nor have I come across them in searches on eBay. Seems to me they’d be pretty scarce.

Do “solo use” prexie cover collectors include the $1, $2 and $5 covers in their collections, or do they pretty much stop at the 50¢?

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by jaywild   ( 913 ) on Feb-03-07 at 07:47:24 PST   Listings
Bjorn… Upside-down “PM” and cheap!

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by jaywild   ( 913 ) on Feb-03-07 at 06:43:54 PST   Listings
Bob in WA… Nude alert!! Not an issued postage stamp, but a stamp nonetheless.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by 85719   ( 2 ) on Feb-03-07 at 06:41:10 PST   Listings
IM = I’m
a enjoyment = an enjoyment
a asphalt = an asphalt
DEFINCICION = ?
a explantion = an explanation
a aim = an aim
docuement = document
useage = usage
were = where
describtion = description
I gotten = I got

etc. etc. etc.

Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Feb-03-07 at 06:10:02 PST   Listings
IM really enjoying myself here with the CATALOG QUEENS ,bottom feeders and lap dogs and a few clowns ....time to give it a break ,sorry for the disruption to all those other posters who take the hobby as a enjoyment ....paul
Posted by pnc5   ( 1350 ) on Feb-03-07 at 06:05:08 PST   Listings
Good morning. Does anyone have a direct telephone number to contact eBay?
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Feb-03-07 at 06:03:45 PST   Listings
I like this board and its posters ----the only problem is we got too many catalog experts here ----lookey in catalog and be a expert .

Now if you want research and not be called a liar you have to be able to show proof like this PROOF --we got catalog Queens here .....like that CATALOG QUEENS ....paul

Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Feb-03-07 at 05:47:49 PST   Listings
MY MY we got a retired carpet cleaner fighting with a asphalt contractor .

First someone needs to research INSTRUCCION on google and they will find a site DEFINCICION.ORG .They have a explantion or definition of INSTRUCCION into English it says----Action and effect to instruct.Extreme of acquired knowledge.Joint rulesor advice for a aim .

There is a failure by some to go past what the catalog states. Research has shown those stamps were printed with the intent to be a means of collecting a docuement tax .They had little useage for that purpose and even less as postage stamps .They were used to pay postal people salary at a greatly reduce level than face . The only place those employee could unload those revenue stamps was to sell to the foreign trading house who ship them off to Europe were they picked up the translation of joint rule .How that was done maybe by a carpet cleaning/philatelist translator who didn't know the story back in Venezuela .

I suspect the describtion i gotten and wrote in my album many years ago came from a describtion someone put on a glassine by a stamp dealer .

Posted by dbenson   ( 7805 ) on Feb-03-07 at 05:11:41 PST   Listings
Jay, your absolutely right, enough about the Venezuela, it should be finished but someone who has just received some literature on the subject but cannot comprehend what it says won't concede that he is incorrect in his statements.

It is easy to prove the facts as there were two more joint issues in 1904 & 1911 with sets being issued with both inscriptions, one with CORREOS which was of course were the postage stamps and the other sets with the inscription INSTRUCCION which was for the school tax on documents but were allowed to be used for postage.

That should end the discussion unless another piece of fiction can be made up to explain those issues, I gave the story about Nazi Germany having a clearing house for mail in Gibraltar during WWII more credence than a joint issue with a trading house in Europe the reason for the inscription,

David B.
Posted by horadam1   ( 433 ) on Feb-03-07 at 04:40:43 PST   Listings
Roger, believe me, no offense was taken by me. I actually sat for a few minutes debating whether or not I should correct it after posting, then decided that no one on this board would detect it, and felt safe. As I said, I should have known. {:0)
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1209 ) on Feb-03-07 at 04:32:43 PST   Listings
Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all


In keeping with the "V" theme here’s some Valentine’s Day theme cancels from the Kokomo Club Cards.

card 12-2.

card 20-2.

card 22-2.

card 23-2.

Jim L.
Posted by vinnysf   ( 295 ) on Feb-03-07 at 03:58:42 PST   Listings
omg, i'm sorry. that was supposed to be bigger and now its smaller than the first one..uggghh!
Posted by vinnysf   ( 295 ) on Feb-03-07 at 03:58:00 PST   Listings
this might be a better scan
Posted by bjornmu   ( 868 ) on Feb-03-07 at 01:22:21 PST   Listings
vinnysf, your scan is rather small but I think the green stamp on the bottom line in Manchukuo 1937, and the grey stamp on line 2 would be Bosnia and Herzegovina 1900.
Posted by rclwa   ( 950 ) on Feb-03-07 at 01:06:05 PST   Listings
I love this alphabet project, and am sorry I haven't had much to contribute of late. I have a lot of interesting items for each letter, I think, but just can't lay my hands on anything in a short time, and keep finally locating things too late. I know, I should think ahead and work on future letters, but procrastination prevails, alas.

Anyway, I can squeak in a somewhat contrived V using this item that arrived in the mail today, along with some other eBay lots: V is for VERMONT, from which this cover was mailed. It was looking for a bidder and I thought it rather interesting, regarding rates. It seems to me a rather late date when ANYTHING could still be mailed for a penny. I believe postcards had increased from 1¢ to 2¢ in 1952. The envelope is unsealed with the flap pasted tucked in. I know there was a special unsealed rate, but I thought it was 2¢ instead of 3¢. Can this be a legitimate solo use of a 1¢ Prexie to carry a small envelope coast to coast under some obscure rate, or is it more likely just a favor cancel concoction? If anyone can enlighten me, please do.

OK, V is also for VENUS!

Bob in WA
Posted by 22028   ( 1551 ) on Feb-02-07 at 23:50:53 PST   Listings
vinnysf, the miniature sheet is from Albania...
Posted by vinnysf   ( 295 ) on Feb-02-07 at 23:34:35 PST   Listings
mini - i have lots up for sale at the moment..but my personal collection is always in the works. i do have a few stamps that i am having trouble identifying. here they are. i will post a few more of my favorites from my collection as i get them scanned in a few.
Posted by jaywild   ( 913 ) on Feb-02-07 at 22:47:44 PST   Listings
The School Tax stamps Dead Horse goes on and on. It will continue to be beaten until the last molecule has wafted into the stratosphere…

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by malolo   ( 836 ) on Feb-02-07 at 22:16:43 PST   Listings
Vic -
All I can say is this. I hope everyone who reads this Board is intelligent enough to catch the errors and then decides whether to make a point, or not. I'm not picking on Bill at all, because often a typo or misthought leads to miscommunication as evidenced during recent days. Actually, I thought Vic was just messing with us. LOL

Roger
NOIP - Please do not read anything into this post other than as a positive comment on the intelligence of stamp collectors. Is it really as low as 50? Maybe that is a good number to start the new weekly topic as a memorial to past philatelists.
Posted by horadam1   ( 433 ) on Feb-02-07 at 21:17:18 PST   Listings
(Scene with me kicking myself over and over again....)

Bill, as soon as I reread my post I noticed the error, and just hoped no one would see it. Duh! That was stupid. I should have known better.

Yes, you are correct. I meant to say, "If no one is interested or if someone is offended by this..." Thanks for noticing. I should have known better....actually I thought it was going to be the professor who corrected me instead....

Posted by figmente   ( 876 ) on Feb-02-07 at 21:01:22 PST   Listings
Edging on someone else's topic

V: Volcanic Vents
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Feb-02-07 at 20:35:35 PST   Listings
PETER ---The purpose for the printing and issueing the stamp was education but a small amount was used for purpose intented and even a smaller amount was used as postage .The vast amount was made to be sold off and thats why there are tons of these stamps around for the stamp trade
Posted by wrd3   ( 99 ) on Feb-02-07 at 20:31:32 PST   Listings
horadam1 ..... not to pick on grammar, but I got a kick out of your post earlier. "If no one is interested or offended by this, then my apologies". So you are apologizing if no one is offended by the post. Given the nature of the board the past week or so your post brought a smile to my face.

lluehhhb thank you for researching and posting the information, and thank you for the info on which catalog to look for. I'll search for the catalog locally. If I'm unable to find a copy I may well contact you to see about getting a copy.

Bill D.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Feb-02-07 at 20:30:41 PST   Listings
are we still friends ,now that everybody is right
Posted by peterc8888   ( 296 ) on Feb-02-07 at 20:27:59 PST   Listings
Paul

You're right that the 1st link shows the stamps. But the 2nd link seems to be some kind of information related to what you and others have been discussing.

PC
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Feb-02-07 at 20:20:26 PST   Listings
LLUEHHB-----Sorry to hear its your last posting .I was hopeing you would confirm that the "Instruccion " were in fact printed for Education as David B. said earlier .BUT and i mean a big BUT ,that in fact most if not 99% were issued to Venezula postal employee ,they were paid {salaries }with these stamps at a huge discount to face and it was the foriegn trading house that purchase these to ship to collectors in Europe were the translation was detemined that it means "joint issue "because it was the trading house that had the stamps .I was hopeing we could discuss the two kinds of new stamps were created by a Presidental decree of April 14,1882.Those bearing the inscription "Escuelas" were to prepay postage on inland correspondence as well as to collect part of the internal revenue,while those inscribed"Correos De Venezuela" had to be usedexclusively for mail going abroad.The next issue decreed on November 28,1892 by thethen Dictator ,General Joaquin Crespo,likewise consisted of two differentkinda with the same purpose as stated above;mercly the inscriptionon the revenue and inland postage stampswas changed from "Escuelas"{schools} to "Instruccion"[education}. It wason March 28 1895 that General Crespo who meanwhile had assumed the presidence ,reduced the "Escuelas" and "INSTRUCCION" to their original purpose abolishing definitively their postage character to take effect on July 1 1895 .

ALL THIS INFORMATION WAS NOT FROM A CATALOG EXPERT gee what i put up with here ,somtimes it makes me wonder .....paul

Posted by antonius-ra   ( 615 ) on Feb-02-07 at 20:15:49 PST   Listings

Thanks for being so obvious! You leave me no reason to even comment.

etal, stamps54321 is not Paul. If you who think he is would have been paying attention you would know this to be true. My guess is another poster who's ID starts Pr......
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 312 ) on Feb-02-07 at 20:01:44 PST   Listings
member, welcome to the board. Check back every few hours to see if you have a reply. Some members here only check in once a day, so pls be patient. You will need to read the messages here, or maybe someone will answer you by email thru your ebay account.
Posted by member9991241   ( 388 ) on Feb-02-07 at 19:53:47 PST   Listings
I am a first time chatter. I am wondering if dbenson or anyone else can tell me info about Mr. and Mrs. Darori .

tHANK YOU
PS
IF YOU REPLY PLEASE TELL ME HOW i RETRIEVE YOUR REPLY i NEVER DID IT B4 AND DONT KNOW HOW
Posted by lluehhhb   ( 238 ) on Feb-02-07 at 19:53:29 PST   Listings
Paul,

Yes, the page 408 is for the "instruccion" stamps, and yes, as I said I'm assuming what they are. The explanation of the usage of the "escuelas" is from the other book.

My last post on the subject.
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 312 ) on Feb-02-07 at 19:11:39 PST   Listings
groan

can anyone say dog and bone in one sentence?
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 312 ) on Feb-02-07 at 19:09:51 PST   Listings
JayJim, its supposed to be Anne keeping everyone in line you know, but I havent seen her for a week or so here, so I stepped in an played Mother even if I am younger than some of the squabblers!
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Feb-02-07 at 19:06:27 PST   Listings

PETERC 888 The link doesn't explan the stamps ,it only shows pictures .

ILUEHHHB First i need what page number your looking at ?Page 405 doesn't have a explantion on it ,thats the first page of the INSTRUCCION stamps on it,so your assuming what they mean ,correct ?

YOU ALSO GOT YOUR CATALOGS WRONG ----the publisher ,Aurelio Blanco Quintanilla ,is the successor to Valera who published a Venezuela catalog in previous years,in comparing the listings,they are exactly the same-same notes,same illustrations of stamps .

So now we have a issue .The spanish catalogs don't tell the whole story ,so I will post later what the story of those issues are.Need to eat and do a few things first .

Posted by jaywild   ( 913 ) on Feb-02-07 at 19:00:37 PST   Listings
stamphick… stamps54321’s name is Luap, as he has stated more than once, not Paul. This suggests somewhat of a light-hearted approach to reality in his posts. It was in that same vein that I responded to him that most psychologists are not MDs, which is true. The smiley face also was meant to convey a sense of humor.

Don’t make me start calling you stampchick…

J

(That means the previous was a joke.)

And yes, many thanks to Milenko for the final word on the escuela/instruccion stamps. You too Lindy, for trying to keep everyone in line.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by breffington   ( 346 ) on Feb-02-07 at 18:44:22 PST   Listings
Talking about South American stamps does anyone have information on a tax stamp issued to tax menstruating prostitutes? This is not a joke. Such a stamp exists, was part of an exbibit at a sstamp show in Poland and was reported on in Linn's about 15 years ago.
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 312 ) on Feb-02-07 at 18:32:50 PST   Listings
thats good Vinny, but how about a few stamps or covers from your colletion too?? we love to see things other people own. Really we do!
Posted by vinnysf   ( 295 ) on Feb-02-07 at 18:27:16 PST   Listings
i know...i was just offering up a little comedy on my behalf :)
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 312 ) on Feb-02-07 at 18:10:35 PST   Listings
ummm yeah, nice VINNY but the idea is to post a LINK to an item with that letter, not just the word!

see here is one of mine for V
V is for Vertical Duplex Putney was allocated vertical duplex 32 in oval of bars, the format being 2 bars at top and bottom, 4 each side, in use from 1879-1893. This 1881 cover to Berlin shows 2 strikes of the Vertical Duplex datestamp

Linda
Posted by vinnysf   ( 294 ) on Feb-02-07 at 17:45:52 PST   Listings
or V is for transVaal
Posted by vinnysf   ( 294 ) on Feb-02-07 at 17:45:11 PST   Listings
"V" is for vinny!! :)
Posted by iomoon   ( 1040 ) on Feb-02-07 at 15:30:09 PST   Listings
No "V's" at the moment, but how about some more wing margins.

Here is a folded letter from London.

It is addressed to H.D.Schmidt Esq., Pernau, Russia.
On the front is a 4d wing-margin, vermilion with letters FG and a lilac plate 5 wing-margin 6d with letters TI.
Both stamps are cancelled with the London Inland Board 46 doublet.
It also has a PD for paid to destination.
An Aus England per Aachen transit.
And a Wfr 3 weiterfranco (paid beyond) for 3 silbergrochen.

On the back are handstamps for the sending company which was Armistead & Co at 21 Old Broad (no comments, please).
A London lozenge for December 11th 1865.
Backstamps for Riga, Latvia and Parnu, Estonia (Pernoye in Russian) dated December 5th.
As most of you know, Russia did not adopt modern calendar till 1917 so receiving date would have been December 18th British time.
Posted by slugovonpoohbah   ( 0 ) on Feb-02-07 at 15:19:26 PST   Listings
Horadam - you probably prefer this punch line:
"What is your IQ? "This time the man drawled out " Uh..... bout 50". The robot clicked then leaned close and very slowly asked, "A-r-e..... y-o-u-r.... p-e-o-p-l-e..........
g-o-i-n-g...........t-o........ n-o-m-i-n-a-t-e..........
H-i-l-l-a-r-y-?????"
Posted by peterc8888   ( 296 ) on Feb-02-07 at 15:11:59 PST   Listings
Another link:

Venezuela Escuelas and Instruccion stamps

PC
Posted by peterc8888   ( 296 ) on Feb-02-07 at 15:05:25 PST   Listings
Not sure anyone interested in this link (no images anymore!):

VENEZUELA Escuelas and Instruccion stamps


PC
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 312 ) on Feb-02-07 at 14:48:56 PST   Listings

THANK YOU MILENKO

NOW I Sincerely hope that is the end of the 'discussion' and the he said/ I said / you said postings for a while...


Any more V is for...?

Linda
Posted by dbenson   ( 7804 ) on Feb-02-07 at 14:46:27 PST   Listings
lluehhb,

thanks,

that should end the discussion,

David B.
Posted by lluehhhb   ( 238 ) on Feb-02-07 at 14:41:49 PST   Listings
Venezuela flame war:

I went today to the library of our local society and spent two nice hours reading about the escuelas stamps.

Specifically, I read "Estampillas clásicas de Venezuela" (Classic stamps from Venezuela) by Santiago Hernández (1967) and the specialized Venezuela catalogs "Varela" (a 70's edition) and "Aurelio Blanco" (1992). All edited in Venezuela.

What they say is that the escuelas issues are stamps to pay a tax created to fund free basic scolarship for everyone. This tax was applied to business transactions and had nothing to do with the postal system.

Due to several reasons they were authorised to pay postage. The last valid postal usage was in 1895, but due to "tradition" they continued to pay postage: the last catalogued series is from 1914.

Now, to the point in discussion:
It's clear the usage of the stamps inscribed "escuelas". Now, there isn't a explicit reference of the usage of the stamps inscribed "instruccion", but for me it's clear that they're for the same purpose:

1) The Blanco catalog shows the last "escuelas" stamp in 1888 and the first "instruccion" stamp in 1893. These two types didn't ciculate toghether, one is the continuation of the other.
The catalog is detailed enough that I think they would have indicated if there were a change in the stamps purpose.

2) From a language point of view, "escuelas" is "shools", and "instrucción" means "education" or "order"-"instruction". If the stamps were a tax for the second meaning, I think the choice of the word is somewhat unclear. Given the context I't take "education".


Now Paul, on Feb-02-07 at 12:40:19 PST, you posted:
but i didn't get help from anyone who knew Spanish already .....why would they help now ---only if im wrong would they comment

I don't know if you had me in mind, but since I think I'm the only regular here that has spanish as mother language, I waited to read the books before making comments in a matter I'm not expert but have some knowledge. Besides I posted the Yvert pages earlier. So don't say we're not helping.

Finally for Bill D., I borrowed the best catalog available in the library (Aurelio Blanco 1992), it's about 500 pages in spanish. I'll photocopy it for me, so if you don't find a better one I could copy and mail it to you.
Posted by horadam1   ( 433 ) on Feb-02-07 at 14:35:30 PST   Listings
slugovonpoohbah: T-h-a-t......n-o-t.......f-u-n-n-y...... M-e....t-a-l-k.....w-i-t....c-h-i-n-g-i-s-k-a-n....
Posted by dbenson   ( 7804 ) on Feb-02-07 at 14:16:15 PST   Listings
Paul, these are your comments,

As i said earlier is the translation of INSTRUCCION is that a school tax as you claim or is it joint rules as i claim ....paul

Please explain what JOINT RULES is, sounds to me to be fairly clear,

David B.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Feb-02-07 at 14:01:41 PST   Listings
DAVID B. ---stop dancing around ,i said in my posting it involued a custom house of somekind ,your talking about occupied country . stop it
Posted by dbenson   ( 7804 ) on Feb-02-07 at 13:56:10 PST   Listings
Paul, you want to expand on these comments of yours,

I don't think a catalog from "Imperial"Europe will explain those issues correctly since they were at odds over the control of Venezuela at the time

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7804 ) on Feb-02-07 at 13:54:47 PST   Listings
Paul, I know that here was no European powers occupation of Venezuela, you were the one that mentioned it,

David B.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Feb-02-07 at 13:50:20 PST   Listings
European powers never occupied Venezuela . There was issues over somekind of custom house .please get the story right, the way it was posted .
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Feb-02-07 at 13:45:49 PST   Listings
SLUGO----Thats a good one

Here is one you wouldn't believe

There was a young man who was working in the mailroom of a brokerage firm in 1969 .He was good, knew the mail rates and cost for different overseas mail and knew all the types and restrictions on mail .He finish his job early each day .So the boss brought him out in the office to work .

One day a report came out that the U.S.wheat crop was sick.All a sudden everybody was yelling and making outrageous claims about were the crop prices were going .It was a mad house by all the branch offices on the company open phone line.

Then the mail clerk got on the squarkbox /company line and said hold on .The wheat crops in Argentina and Australia and South Africa are not planted yet and this will keep prices down since they have opposite seasons to us .There was a silence on the line and people started to realize and say that they had a international expert in the company .The first remark was how did he know that .

That was easy all those countries issued cheap stamps showing the crops ,he was a S-T-A-M-P C-O-L-L-E-C-T-O-R.

Posted by dbenson   ( 7804 ) on Feb-02-07 at 13:25:37 PST   Listings
To try to clarify matters regarding,

there are two opposing points of view what the ESCUALAS & INSTRUCCION issues were.

This is Pauls comments,

" As i said earlier is the translation of INSTRUCCION is that a school tax as you claim or is it joint rules as i claim ....paul "

My opinion is that they are stamps that were produced as a receipt for taxes to raise money for schools and are not postage stamps but were allowed to be used as postage stamps if postage stamps were not available.

Paul's claim is that the INSTRUCCION were not School Tax stamps but an issue under joint rule when Venezuela was occupied by European powers,

David B.
Posted by wrd3   ( 99 ) on Feb-02-07 at 13:25:05 PST   Listings
stamps12345 when you receive the pages could you please either post a link of them to the board or email them to me? I'm very interested in what they have to say. I should be able to muddle along with a translation, and I work with several people fluent in Spanish who would be able to translate. The few web sites I've found with information on these stamps, both in Spanish and English, have consistent information as already posted by dbenson.

NOIP repeating a question I asked earlier, does anyone know of a good Venezuelan catalog? English would be preferrable, but French or Spanish would be OK as well.

Bill D.
Posted by slugovonpoohbah   ( 0 ) on Feb-02-07 at 13:21:18 PST   Listings
A man walked into a very high-tech bar. As he sat down on a stool he noticed that the bartender was a robot.
The robot clicked to attention and asked, "Sir, what will you have?" The man thought a moment then replied, "A martini please." The robot clicked a couple of times and mixed the best martini the man had ever had.

The robot then asked, "Sir, what is your IQ?" The man answered "Oh, about 164." The robot then proceeded to discuss the theory of relativity, inter-stellar space travel, the latest medical break through, etc.......
The man was most impressed. He left the bar but thought he would try a different tact. He returned and took a seat.

Again the robot clicked and asked what he would have? "A Martini please." Again it was superb! The robot again asked "What is your IQ sir?" This time the man answered, "Oh about 100". So the robot started discussing NASCAR racing, the latest basketball scores, and what to expect the Dodgers to do this week end.

The guy had to try it one more time. So he left, returned and took a stool.... Again a martini, and the question, "What is your IQ?" This time the man drawled out " Uh..... bout 50". The robot clicked then leaned close and very slowly asked, "A-r-e... y-o-u .. a ... s-t-a-m-p ... c-o-l-l-e-c-t-o-r-?"
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Feb-02-07 at 13:17:34 PST   Listings
SOGGY333------Here is how to do it .......go to ADVANCE SEARCH on the upper part of this page . The go to the side bar and hit FIND A MEMBER,put in the name you want {soggy333} and up pops CT.UNITED STATES member 8 years 6 months .
Posted by dbenson   ( 7804 ) on Feb-02-07 at 13:02:30 PST   Listings
Paul, you have already mentioned that your Spanish is limited, it may help if the comments were translated correctly,

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7804 ) on Feb-02-07 at 12:54:00 PST   Listings
soggy, because of the shortages of stamps available the Escualas & Instruccion School Tax stamps were allowed to be used for postage, they are in effect exactly the same as Postal Fiscals, if mint then treated as postage stamps, if used then postal,

They are mainly very common stamps and most are worth only a few cents each if you are lucky enough to find a buyer even at that price.

David B.
Posted by soggy333   ( 54 ) on Feb-02-07 at 12:44:16 PST   Listings
I always wondered why millions of thos escuelas and instruccion stamps from Venezuela are here. If they were revenues, were they brought over by boatloads? If postal use, then it would explain the large quantities available a little better.

Paul You need to kill off Luap.His cover was blown ages ago,and he never buys a damn thing either. How can you say it isn't you? Is it David? Your Alfred E Neuman picture is in the same mellowits directory on geocities as the picture Luap posted of David. That was funny though I have to admit. Im curious to know how you know Luap registered in New Jersey. It was not obvious to me,but then I do not know all of the features of ebay.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Feb-02-07 at 12:40:19 PST   Listings
sure --- but i didn't get help from anyone who knew Spanish already .....why would they help now ---only if im wrong would they comment
Posted by dbenson   ( 7804 ) on Feb-02-07 at 12:36:58 PST   Listings
Paul, looking forward to seeing what the Spanish catalogues have to say. When you get the fax could you link it to the board,

David B.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Feb-02-07 at 12:32:01 PST   Listings
DAVID B. -----I just got off the phone with the APS Libary and they are going to fax me pages from the Spanish catalog and what ever else she can find about "INSTRUCCION" in Venezuela ,i gave her a limit on my credit card and she said it was more than enough to get the info. ...paul

Peter ---no harm done

Posted by dbenson   ( 7804 ) on Feb-02-07 at 12:28:27 PST   Listings
Paul, I also think you had better do some history investigation. At the time when the Escuelas were issued there was no odds over control of Venezuela, it was a self governing republic and the only time that any European power was involved was in 1902 when British, German & Italian warships blockaded Venezuelan ports to ensure that the country's external debts were paid after the Civil War in 1899 when the dictator seized control of the treasury & used the funds as his personal property,

David B.
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 71 ) on Feb-02-07 at 12:26:29 PST   Listings
Paul Apologies from a humble clown if I have wronged you:-)


Peter I agree with Alec and D2 it probably is "unused", typical cancels from this era

would be these. Current SG is

actually £1400, they are difficult stamps to find.

cheers

Peter
Posted by dbenson   ( 7804 ) on Feb-02-07 at 12:20:53 PST   Listings
Paul, most colelctors in South America use Yvert, would you accept their description,

Davcid B.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1040 ) on Feb-02-07 at 12:14:30 PST   Listings
I'll happily be the recipient of any OI wing margins. (mint or used)
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Feb-02-07 at 12:13:42 PST   Listings
DAVID B. ------Im sort of a third world socialist, I would like to see a Spanish writting piece to explain those stamps .I don't think a catalog from "Imperial"Europe will explain those issues correctly since they were at odds over the control of Venezuela at the time.Let me put a request in to the APS libary for a photo copy of those pages from a South American catalog .
Posted by dbenson   ( 7804 ) on Feb-02-07 at 12:06:26 PST   Listings
Alec, Wing margin stamps are beginning more collectable and there are many collectors who are only collecting them especially if from one of the plates that was rearranged and has corner letters with & without wing margins. They still sell for less than normal examples but the price variance is not that much now. In the past it may have been only about 20% but now would be closer to 75%.

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7804 ) on Feb-02-07 at 12:03:18 PST   Listings
Paul, will you accept Michel's or Yvert's comments,

David B.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Feb-02-07 at 11:55:11 PST   Listings
TO ALL YOU NEW READERS We go thru this about once a year ,were some third party poster comes on here and incites the group and the same group of clowns and posters think they are too smart to be fooled and thinks it me .....paul
Posted by peterc8888   ( 296 ) on Feb-02-07 at 11:54:59 PST   Listings
David, Alec

I have just translated the description listed for the GB stamp and the stamp is identified as used by the seller. Well, since the seller is not from UK, I'm not sure whether he has the expertize in GB stamps. May be I should ask him to email me the back scan?

PC
Posted by infla-alec   ( 506 ) on Feb-02-07 at 11:49:28 PST   Listings
PeterC I'd hate to try and place a value on something I don't know a great deal about. To some that stamp may be perfectly ok as a gap filler and others would reject it out of hand. I know other ZGB collectors who simply won't have wing margin examples in their colection. Bottom line is if you would feel happy trying to get it for your max $ price then go for it. The chances of getting a good copy cheap in mint condition are remote. I believe virtually all QV stamps mint are very difficult to find especially if unmounted.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Feb-02-07 at 11:46:55 PST   Listings
DAVID ----Lets start from the beginning ,something i picked up many years ago is what i posted here and said so. ---DID YOU GET THAT -----truth or not i would like to see a specialized catalog or a written piece about the subject -----DID YOU GET THAT -----That means i want to get more information is it right or wrong . ---DID YOU GET THAT ....not that Paul's wrong or Paul say he's right----GET IT THRU YOUR HEAD I WANT MORE INFORMATION. ......GEE WHAT I PUT UP WITH HERE CAN DRIVE A COLLECTOR AWAY FROM THE HOBBBY ........OOOPS many have already left {bad example}
Posted by dbenson   ( 7804 ) on Feb-02-07 at 11:39:17 PST   Listings
Peter, if it has gum it should realise between $100-150, if no gum then around the $50-75 although better GB is very popular on Ebay at the moment with many UK collectors chasing spacefillers as there are a lot of newer collectors who do not worry about condition as much as the oldtimers,

David B.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Feb-02-07 at 11:38:07 PST   Listings
PETER / GREENWAVE4U----Can you explain that better ,you lost me on what your trying to say ,be more specfic ....paul
Posted by dbenson   ( 7804 ) on Feb-02-07 at 11:37:03 PST   Listings
Paul, yoiu have refused to acknowledge the comments in Gibbons & Rossiter and other references. Your only reasoning is the comments that you noted years ago which is wrong. As Scott's ignores them why don't you look up other catalogues and see why they say, eventually you will have to renege and say you were wrong but how many references to the facts do you need. I haven't got Michel or Yvert listings for Venezuela but would be interested to read them if anyone here has them,

David B.
Posted by peterc8888   ( 296 ) on Feb-02-07 at 11:36:06 PST   Listings
Alec

Thanks for the Karl-Heinz thing.

If that GB stamp is not cancelled and is in poor condition, how much is it worth? I wonder whether I should get it for something like US$30 to US$50.

PC
Posted by infla-alec   ( 506 ) on Feb-02-07 at 11:25:24 PST   Listings
PeterC I agree with David that stamp is not cancelled. Victorian era stamps are usually very heavily postmarked. That stamp I feel is in poor condition and in my opinion not worth anything like what SG state it to be worth., ie £1250 as a mint copy.
On the other matter I am helping you with you'll be pleased to know Karl-Heinz has confirmed he has my e-mail and everything is ok.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Feb-02-07 at 11:21:38 PST   Listings
DAVID BENSON You know me better than that ,first the note about the Venezuela stamps came from something i didn't write ,it was written somewhere and i copy it in to my collection and I said that to you already ----GROW-UP and read what i posted not what you want it to say ...

Second to all you CLOWNS When i post here i put my name on it ......if you did a e-bay search on the poster STAMPS 54321 you would see he is registered in New Jersey not Illinois ...please get it right ,that not me ....paul

Posted by dbenson   ( 7804 ) on Feb-02-07 at 11:11:38 PST   Listings
Paul54321,

whats up with you, I have never made any posts I am not 100% sure about and all I was trying to prove regarding Paul's refusal to acknowledge common knowledge regarding the Venezuelan School Tax stamps which of course is a waste of time as he will never admit he has ever made a mistake,

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7804 ) on Feb-02-07 at 11:09:06 PST   Listings
peter, more likely a stain, when they were used, they were always heavily cancelled with a duplex killer or a SON cds. to make 100% sure they could never be recycled,

David B.
Posted by peterc8888   ( 296 ) on Feb-02-07 at 10:59:17 PST   Listings
David

I don't have this stamp. But it looks to me that it has a cancellation mark on the upper left.

PC
Posted by dbenson   ( 7804 ) on Feb-02-07 at 10:40:34 PST   Listings
Peter, it is sg. 125, does the stamp have any gum as it is a very rare stamp unused, either with gum or even without gum. Even with the wing margin & the apparent faults it is still a desirable stamp,

David B.
Posted by stamphick!   ( 334 ) on Feb-02-07 at 10:17:30 PST   Listings
jaywild...That's all well and good and even true, but there is nothing to prevent someone from being both a psychologist and an MD. Being the trusting sort, I'll take Paul's word for it.
Posted by 22028   ( 1551 ) on Feb-02-07 at 10:07:32 PST   Listings
stamps54321, I assume, MD stands for MasterDumb
Posted by jaywild   ( 913 ) on Feb-02-07 at 09:57:59 PST   Listings
stamps54321… Not to stir the pot, but a psychologist is generally not an MD. That’s a psychiatrist, which requires an MD degree as well as one in psychiatry. A psychologist is a very different animal. And your earlier posts, signed “Luap”, identified you as a paving contractor. Do you have an office somewhere with a big sign out front that reads

DOCTOR/SHRINK/ASPHALT PAVING
While-U-Wait

No offense, just wondering…

J

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by jaywild   ( 913 ) on Feb-02-07 at 09:51:05 PST   Listings
Bjorn… Nice 1907 “leap year” cancel! The seller didn’t even realize 1907 was a non-leap year. Congratulations.

Lindy… Mooooooooo to you too, girl!

J

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by stamps54321   ( 6 ) on Feb-02-07 at 09:50:57 PST   Listings
22028 Get real! You are obviously in some sort of denial here for the kindergarden posts judge has recently submitted would make anyone seem like a fool. BTW, I AM a psychologist MD. Need any meds?
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 71 ) on Feb-02-07 at 08:56:46 PST   Listings
Peter The wing margins are common see here:-

http://imagesoftheworld.org/stamps/sheet-3d-table.htm

As to the colour it does have a tinge of brown on my monitor, but...

Peter
Posted by soggy333   ( 54 ) on Feb-02-07 at 08:44:11 PST   Listings
Paul
Thos Moroccan locals were a lucky find. They are (mostly) legitimate local posts and are listed, just not in Scott. Get ahold of one of those old Billig handbooks, #17 I think, or borrow it from APS via mail and copy it. They are terrific stamps to collect and many are rare enough to keep you on them all your life.
Posted by peterc8888   ( 296 ) on Feb-02-07 at 08:42:44 PST   Listings
Jim(iomoon)

I compare the color of the GB stamp with the current ebay listings. That color seems to be the SG125 grey. Is the wing margin (plate #?) copy less common? I see most of the ebay listings are the one from plate 12.

PC
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 71 ) on Feb-02-07 at 08:10:32 PST   Listings
Paul I try hard not get involved in the various slanging matches on this board that seem to take place daily, and not always you involved I know, but each of this type of posting (the one's to a picture) is a complete waste of time and causes possibly another good post to roll of the board. By all means slag each other off if that's what turns you on but do it via email or after you have done it on this board why not report your own post after an hour and get it deleted?
Only trying to retain sanity:-) Thats a friendly well meaning smile BTW.
Peter
Posted by dcderoo   ( 1648 ) on Feb-02-07 at 07:47:10 PST   Listings
saphilatelics, that's pretty much as I thought.
Just hoping as a plus for me that someone can come up with an image of each so that I can compare.
Posted by dcderoo   ( 1648 ) on Feb-02-07 at 07:43:30 PST   Listings
stamps12345, the two stamps under question are NOT large and small shield varieties, they are color varieties (both are small shield.)
Sc# 8 vs. 8a
OR
Mi# 8 vs. 15
Posted by saphilatelics   ( 401 ) on Feb-02-07 at 07:41:06 PST   Listings
The difference between large and small shield is immaterial, as Michel 8 and 15 are both small shield stamps. It is the color that matters, with Michel 8 being reddish orange or red-orange, Michel 15 being orange. The scan looks to be of Michel 15, with a CV of EUR 50 for MH and EUR 180 for MNH. A Michel 8, by contrast, catalogs for EUR 750 and 6500, respectively.
Posted by nomad55   ( 861 ) on Feb-02-07 at 07:26:09 PST   Listings
Sorry Bjorn - at least I had it half right.

Here's an interesting error, the new state of Califorina.
http://i2.ebayimg.com/07/i/000/87/4e/b0fe_1_b.JPG

Actually, the spelling mistake had previously been recorded, but its difficult to find.
Cachet shows the dirigible hangar at Moffett Field in Sunnyvale. The building still stands, although now closed.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Feb-02-07 at 07:23:34 PST   Listings
DCDEROO----Here is the catalog showing the difference between the small shield and the large shield .It is the direction of the eagle feathers that is the easies to see on your stamp ,if they are down or surround the eagle .... LARGE SHIELD AND SMALL SHIELD.....hope this helps...paul
Posted by 22028   ( 1551 ) on Feb-02-07 at 07:14:02 PST   Listings
stamps54321, give yourself a break... (or visit a psychologist)…
Posted by stamps54321   ( 6 ) on Feb-02-07 at 07:03:26 PST   Listings
Ain't this the truth!

http://www.geocities.com/mellowits/judge2.jpg
Posted by iomoon   ( 1040 ) on Feb-02-07 at 07:00:19 PST   Listings
Good day all.

Peter

It is either of the stamps from SG 122 to 124a, depending on color. Probably 122b, pale chestnut. No idea of value, catalog is too old.

It is a wing margin, found on stamps with D, E, H, and I in SE corner on spray of roses watermark.

Local "character" is no more.
Posted by dcderoo   ( 1648 ) on Feb-02-07 at 06:55:45 PST   Listings
Need a bit of help.
This concerns a German stamp I listed and sold.
I listed it as Germany Sc# 8 (Mi# 8).
It appears I should have said "Germany Sc# 8 (Mi# 15)".
I have no reason to believe the buyer is incorrect especially since it cost her less than $50.

I need a sanity check.
Which one is this?

Better yet for my continuing education, if someone could post a side-by-side image of both, that would be great.

Posted by peterc8888   ( 296 ) on Feb-02-07 at 06:43:05 PST   Listings
I want to know the SG catalogue # for this Great Britain stamp and the CV of it. Is it common to have such a large margin?

Great Britain

Thanks,

PC
Posted by malolo   ( 836 ) on Feb-02-07 at 06:36:35 PST   Listings
Aloha -
I just read the Board before going to work and discovered I wrote last night that I bid "130SF" for the 200SF lot. I'm not that cheap-!!! My agent bid to 1300SF for me since preliminary emails suggested 800SF might win the lot. It went for 2400SF!

Off to work and see if I can make a few thousand during work hours, which will be tough without getting on the front page. )'>)

Roger
Posted by horadam1   ( 433 ) on Feb-02-07 at 06:16:10 PST   Listings
This is not business, and I do not know the seller from squat. If anyone is interested in modern airmail covers from various countries to the US, one seller on ebay has large lots up at auction, ending soon. So as to not promote any business, even that with does not help me, but probably will garner bids against mine, I have posted the link on the alternate chat board. If no one is interested or offended by this, then my apologies and sorry to waste a space on the board.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Feb-02-07 at 05:51:23 PST   Listings
FRANK B. -----Actually I like the guy no reason to get mad ,working on Fr.Morocco and made a few nice finds like a type I of the Peace and Commerce issues cats at $29.00 ,all from a old dealer approval book .Also got a three pages of unlisted material like this UNLISTED STAMPS /PRIVATE ISSUES ....paul
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1209 ) on Feb-02-07 at 04:46:40 PST   Listings
Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all


In keeping with the "V" theme here’s a Veteran saluting on a Kokomo Club card 50-7.

Jim L.
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 71 ) on Feb-02-07 at 02:46:54 PST   Listings
I think global warming must have finally caught up with the Aussie cricket team:-)
Posted by thebriguy1   ( 64 ) on Feb-02-07 at 01:32:58 PST   Listings
Oh my.....of all the words to misspell.....education.

It was a typo....yeah, just a typo. :o)
Posted by thebriguy1   ( 64 ) on Feb-02-07 at 01:28:11 PST   Listings
dragonstamps Since I don't think I've "chatted" with you before.....Welcome!

As for the oodles of forgeries surrounding US civil war postal history, you're sadly correct. :o(

Of course, the GOOD news is here you can can get a free eduction! We've got plenty of posters in our ranks who more then just dabble in that realm. Ask away, please, ask away. The detailed answers about those things that trouble you are at your fingertips.......
Posted by bjornmu   ( 867 ) on Feb-01-07 at 23:41:59 PST   Listings
Uh, try again: FEB 29, 1907
Posted by bjornmu   ( 867 ) on Feb-01-07 at 23:41:28 PST   Listings
Nomad, thanks but I don't collect ordinary Leap Day cancels. I am however interested in items like this, cancelled FEB 29, 1907! :-)
Posted by sheryll*net   ( 90 ) on Feb-01-07 at 23:08:44 PST   Listings
Paolo - Greetings, and no worries! I wonder why the card took so long to arrive?

V is for the Vanuatu Volcano Post, a philatelic first by Vanuatu. I received a postcard posted from there last year. On the front is a photo of Mt Yasur where the Volcano Post box is located, and the Volcano Post handstamp is on the back, dated 12 Oct 06. To see a photo of this postcard being posted, scroll down to the bottom of this webpage.

S2
Posted by dragonstamps   ( 444 ) on Feb-01-07 at 22:35:49 PST   Listings
There is money to be made! That's the sad aspect to any collectible hobby. It draws in a seedy bunch or should I say bunches.

I enjoy reading about the American civil war and I've over 30 books on the subject.
But the stamps from that period have been so heavily forged/manipulated, I can't see spending the time or effort to learn the real ones from the fakes.
So what would be an obvious top 5 category for me goes ignored. I won't collect it.
Posted by malolo   ( 836 ) on Feb-01-07 at 22:27:40 PST   Listings
oregon-grown -
Could you please rephrase your comment. It's late here and I'm not sure I understand your comment.

Roger

NOIP - Missed on first auction in Switzerland,. Had agent bid up to 130SF on auction with 200SF as start. Lot went for 2400 between two others who wanted it a whole lot more. A one set of books, only 7 sets of the 6 volumes were ever published. More action tomorrow and Saturday!
Posted by jaywild   ( 913 ) on Feb-01-07 at 22:06:23 PST   Listings
Lindy... I have a COWS IN STORM handstamp...
Posted by oregon-grown   ( 387 ) on Feb-01-07 at 21:53:45 PST   Listings
When I bid on magazines and plan to be there but find out that I won't be able to I place my highest bid. Nothing else enters my mind I understand that there will be other items. So thing or read into it what you will.
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 312 ) on Feb-01-07 at 21:22:32 PST   Listings
jayJim nice envelope, now with some old ink, and a few handstamps..how about Gone from Gettysburg / Missent to Mississippi / Thunderstorms in Tennesee / Damaged in Delaware
Im sure our friend could make them up for you in a day or 2 !!

L. :o)
Posted by matthew1999   ( 148 ) on Feb-01-07 at 21:18:33 PST   Listings
When we all get tired of stamps, here are some other things we can collect...

Mh
Posted by jaywild   ( 913 ) on Feb-01-07 at 21:01:31 PST   Listings
NOIP… I received this unusual item today, a patriotic Civil War cover, an all-over 34 star flag printed between 1861 and 1863. (Warning! 200k file) How do I know? Kansas was admitted to the Union in January 1861, while West Virginia, the next state, didn’t make it in until June 1863.

Not worth a whole lot surely, but interesting to me, because of a general interest in the US Civil War. Also, it was typographed, so the stars seem to have been carved individually into the blue union.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by dbenson   ( 7801 ) on Feb-01-07 at 20:56:03 PST   Listings
breffington, I agree with Paul's comments about that link which he called a beginners board. Pity he hasn't reached that stage yet as he cannot understand it's level.

Lucky he wasn't in the army with all the other 1000 soldiers marching out of step and he was the one that was correct,

David B.
Posted by breffington   ( 346 ) on Feb-01-07 at 20:26:12 PST   Listings
I am appalled I did not spell appalled correctly. F
Posted by peetah   ( 460 ) on Feb-01-07 at 20:15:18 PST   Listings
jim-lawler "....to let their friends know they are interested" makes sense too. Thanx all.
Posted by breffington   ( 346 ) on Feb-01-07 at 20:04:26 PST   Listings
To D. Benson and Paul in alphabetical order: I am apalled at you David for expecting Paul to be a hinge licking lackey to your pronouncements. Even if you are known as the 'Sage of Sydney'. Is there no Socratic exchange to be had here? Now you are out of Paul's will and he is off your drinks list. And, Paul, to impoverish a philatelist when he has to sock away some money for when his daughter marries is poor form. Do consider putting him back in your will. And I thought the Mid-East issues were tough to solve. Frank
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1208 ) on Feb-01-07 at 19:36:11 PST   Listings
peetah
To add to what dragonstamps posted, (and I agree with what he's said) it’s possible that the first bid is a “Bookmark” bid so they can find the lot latter and to let their friends know they are interested. The second bid could be due to their expectation of having the bookmark bid out bid.


In keeping with the "V" theme here’s a Veterans Day cancel card 14-5.

Here’s another Veterans Day cancle card 14-11.

Jim L.
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 312 ) on Feb-01-07 at 19:03:06 PST   Listings
I agree with dragon, and it does intimidate other bidders if they see an item with 2 bids and still at starting price!
Posted by peetah   ( 460 ) on Feb-01-07 at 18:51:40 PST   Listings
dragonstamps reason 1 makes sense.
Posted by dragonstamps   ( 444 ) on Feb-01-07 at 18:35:23 PST   Listings
Peetah:

There are two reasons to do that, that I can think of. One is that the bidder wanted to place a higher maximum bid and might not be able to return to bid again.
And the second reason is to scare away other bidders, which it does in my opinion/experience.
Posted by sneeky37   ( 232 ) on Feb-01-07 at 18:22:13 PST   Listings
A VERY GOOD EVENING TO ALL !!!
Posted by peetah   ( 460 ) on Feb-01-07 at 18:15:41 PST   Listings
What is the reason for an only bidder, to come back at some other time and place another bid? Is there some strategic reason for doing so?
Posted by dbenson   ( 7801 ) on Feb-01-07 at 17:24:51 PST   Listings
Paul, I have been posting on Richard's board but only about exhibitions, I didn't want to get involved with the discussion as I knew it would detiorate when you got angry because you didn't get the answer you wanted,

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7801 ) on Feb-01-07 at 17:19:56 PST   Listings
Paul, and your not on my invite list for drinks,

David B.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Feb-01-07 at 17:19:11 PST   Listings
DAVID B. ----Now i know that was you posting that ,on Richards board ---lol
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Feb-01-07 at 17:14:45 PST   Listings
insults insults ,thats all I get from you ......now I got bad news for you ....I did my will today and didn't include you.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7801 ) on Feb-01-07 at 17:13:21 PST   Listings
This is the so called beginners board,

http://www.iswsc.org/iswsc_ident.html

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7801 ) on Feb-01-07 at 17:04:16 PST   Listings
IO, is it a full moon in Chicago,

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7801 ) on Feb-01-07 at 17:03:38 PST   Listings
Paul, the only person who looks like a halfwit is you, you refused to acknoweldge what Gibbons states, what Rossiter states because they are English and then you refuse to acknowledge what a US site says,

ps. the writer on Richard's board sounds a lot like you even with you calling card " hope this helps ",

David B.
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1208 ) on Feb-01-07 at 16:40:10 PST   Listings
In keeping with the "V" theme here’s a flag slogan promoting vacationing in Kokomo, Indiana click here.

Jim L.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Feb-01-07 at 16:34:28 PST   Listings
DAVID B. ----You make me laugh ........Your posting about the Venezuela on Richards board is a lame attempt by you .To support your point of view .A unknown poster who writes like a half-wit puts up the attempts at a question .He gets the answer from a expert to look in the catalog and says what the catalog says .That is your supporting arguement --LOL-----Then you link to a beginners pages which offers nothing but a basic explaination as a fiscal .Come on David ,lets wait to a serious piece of research is offered and not something thats a repeat of Gibbons .Im Surprise on your need to refer to basic beginner information as your source to prove a point .
Posted by iomoon   ( 1040 ) on Feb-01-07 at 15:21:29 PST   Listings
Quiet day considering it's a
Posted by nomad55   ( 861 ) on Feb-01-07 at 14:51:47 PST   Listings
For somebody (do not remember who, but possibly Bjorn).....

February 29th alert
http://cgi.ebay.com/Imperf-1cent-stamp-on-cover-to-Germany-1920_W0QQitemZ230086385678QQihZ013QQcategoryZ689QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Posted by dbenson   ( 7801 ) on Feb-01-07 at 14:18:24 PST   Listings
vinny, not at the moment, don't normally have beer at home, although plenty of wine & liqueurs,

David B.
Posted by vinnysf   ( 290 ) on Feb-01-07 at 14:00:27 PST   Listings
david b. you still got any free beer?
Posted by purpleandgold23   ( 99 ) on Feb-01-07 at 13:52:27 PST   Listings
Pat

Not much in the article other than what I have stated but I don't think that the framed "Missent to Ireland" which I would describe as "rubber-type" is all that uncommon. When you referred to it in your previous post, I knew that I had seen it documented before.

Regards

Dermot
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 312 ) on Feb-01-07 at 13:50:31 PST   Listings
Good morning from a sunny Melbourne!

Chip G., wow! thank you that was a joy to look at.

Linda
Posted by dbenson   ( 7801 ) on Feb-01-07 at 13:50:07 PST   Listings
Purple & Gold, thanks for the confirmation,

David B.
Posted by patcurragh   ( 3 ) on Feb-01-07 at 13:38:32 PST   Listings
Dermot, does the Irsh Stamp News article refer to the place of origin of the handstamp or to its authenticity? Modern PH not really my cup of tea.

I'm reading an article on penalties applied for the forging of Free Frank signatures to obtain free postage. From 1784 treble charge was applied on discovery and the offender could be fined £50 for the first offence, £100 for the second, a third brought Transportation for 7 years. I wonder if this still applies for "Free Post". Seven years all expenses paid in Oz is somewhat appealing!

Pat
Posted by purpleandgold23   ( 99 ) on Feb-01-07 at 13:28:36 PST   Listings
David

Yes - the two strikes are completely different.

Regards

Dermot
Posted by infla-alec   ( 506 ) on Feb-01-07 at 13:25:50 PST   Listings
Chip G Simply excellent V showing. I think the long wait was worthwhile.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7801 ) on Feb-01-07 at 13:17:52 PST   Listings
purple&gold,

have you compared the marking on the lot that was sold to the markings in the magazine article,

David B.
Posted by purpleandgold23   ( 99 ) on Feb-01-07 at 13:09:56 PST   Listings
Just to comment on the references to recent "Missent to Ireland" handstamps. In Issue 22 of Irish Stamp News (no longer published) of Summer 1986, three international "missent" covers are shown. The last cover shows a fair strike of a framed "Missent to Ireland" with the following text: "Finally we show a cover to Israel from the USA with the MISSENT TO/IRELAND cachet" and then goes on to explain why countries beginning with "I" are the usual source for such covers.

I believe that the use of such a handstamp in recent times is reasonably well-known. Whether there are six varieties as claimed, however, is a different question.

Regards to all

Dermot
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Posted by sayasan   ( 593 ) on Feb-01-07 at 13:02:56 PST   Listings
Agreed. CG amazing. A pleasure to browse.
Posted by jaywild   ( 913 ) on Feb-01-07 at 12:32:32 PST   Listings
Chip G… Let me also congratulate you on your terrific CG stamps…

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by jaywild   ( 913 ) on Feb-01-07 at 12:30:43 PST   Listings
D2… Congratulations on the 7800! My, that’s a lot of stamp sales…

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by jaywild   ( 913 ) on Feb-01-07 at 12:29:10 PST   Listings
Knud-Erik… Thank you for saving this lot from the unscrupulous You-Know-Who! If you hadn’t won it, this would soon have popped up for sale on eBay, with rare previously unrecorded COWS IN STORM marking.

J

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by sayasan   ( 593 ) on Feb-01-07 at 12:03:41 PST   Listings
Yes, last time I took a leak in the basement of the Royal the engraving of the cattle painting was still there. Which is about where it belongs, IMO. Total kitsch.
Posted by dbenson<