eBay Chat: Stamps

eBay chatboard archive: Feb-26-07 to Mar-04-07 week

Posted by cfrphoto ( 1035

)

on Mar-04-07 at 22:45:16 PST

220man:

A 3¢ single line watermark perf 8½ coil cannot easily be faked because no 3¢ single line watermark stamps were issued and no sheet stamps were perf 8½. It is likely that the coil is genuine but with the possibility that one edge was trimmed later to balance the upper and lower margins. Careful examination of the edges with a 15 power glass and measuring from a 1600 DPI scan can determine if the imperf edges are truly parallel. The appearance of the imperf edges of a flat plate auto-wound coil (some perf 12 #388, perf 8½ and perf 10 flat plate) can be compared at high magnification an early rotary coil.

If the stamp does not have a clear single line watermark, then anything is possible. Here is another link to the image:

220man 3 cent coil

Posted by jaywild ( 926

)

on Mar-04-07 at 22:04:31 PST

Thank you Lindy… ??????

J

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
| Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by jaywild ( 926

)

on Mar-04-07 at 21:33:41 PST

D2… Well, eBay has made it impossible to report the type of fraud Johnny is committing. They have divided their reporting pages to a few middling complaints, that you cannot deviate from, so the hope of getting this jerk off eBay is a will o’ the wisp. So Lindy it is not possible to complain that Johnno is still a Powerseller while not meeting the criteria. More eBay bullsh*t!!

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
| Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by mini*lindy ( 323

)

on Mar-04-07 at 20:35:30 PST

Oh dear!, Johnno's latest negative for 'damaged by sea water' (tap water more likely!), has taken his feeback to 97.4%..... and he needs 98% to retain his POWERSELLER status.. so sad, too bad!

Jim Not the Rowland Hill awards (they are already a real philatelic award), maybe the VICTORIA DOUBLE-CROSS AWARD !?

Linda

Posted by due2cents ( 26

) on Mar-04-07 at 19:20:24 PST

Song for worldwide collectors

Here

" I've got one from spain and two from japan"

Posted by antonius-ra ( 615

)

on Mar-04-07 at 19:18:27 PST

Just got this not really that suprising but quite interesting. Takes a few bit(s) to download.

Posted by antonius-ra ( 615

)

on Mar-04-07 at 18:58:22 PST

Io Those Darwin awards are a real kick. I need to remember to check it out better when I have the time. You're right ebay should provide an inexhaustible feeding ground. Right now I have the happy task of adding a few stamps to my Guatemalean collection.

oas-cny Greetings. Yes I do have one of those on my website, not to hard to find (bottom right corner of the page.
I do not know who told you not to ignore jaywilds comments, but I can guess. Jim is a good guy and is always happy to help anyone with a question (on early U.S.) that is proposed in a answerable manner.

Posted by jim_lawler ( 1253

)

on Mar-04-07 at 18:33:33 PST

:8^(
My body is saying it's past time for bed, and the clock says I must stay up. I think it's time for the body to win.

Posted by jim_lawler ( 1253

)

on Mar-04-07 at 18:32:11 PST

JimNice!. Arizona is not easy, but for Indiana there are at least six “Holy Grails” that are “One Only” copies to complete the Types for the state. The rarest Town does have very few (either 6 or ten), but it’s actually an institution, so….

FWIW, I understand that the Chinese & Japanese languages have character for both words and letters. So, I’ll post some of them as I’m not that familiar with the difference. There are two many irons in the fire for me to add learning that at this time.

In keeping with the "Non-Latin Alphabet" theme here’s

Here’s a post card mailed from China to Israel, two countries that rely on languages using “non-Latin” alphabets.
address side.

The Great Wall is depicted on the back.

Jim L.

Posted by jaywild ( 925

)

on Mar-04-07 at 18:24:03 PST

Thanks Bill D. I was composing my post when you made yours.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
| Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by jaywild ( 925

)

on Mar-04-07 at 18:22:29 PST

oas-cny… Yes, now I remember saying that you did not post the miscreants name to your discredit, a statement I stand by. Why would you call attention to a possible crook, then make it almost impossible to find him? Whatever your motives, they were hardly creditable.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
| Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by postalhysteria ( 3445

)

on Mar-04-07 at 18:22:06 PST

db - oh! Never noticed that there before. duhh . . . .

Posted by dbenson ( 7930

)

on Mar-04-07 at 18:02:19 PST

Postal, on this page, just above RELOAD

If you would like to report a stamp listing you suspect is in violation of eBay policy, then please visit the bottom of the Selling Stamps help page, or
www.ebay.com/scw.

David B.

Posted by postalhysteria ( 3445

)

on Mar-04-07 at 17:54:56 PST

db - report button above what??

Posted by dbenson ( 7930

)

on Mar-04-07 at 17:51:57 PST

postal, it is easiest to report it by clicking the report button above then go to the bottom of the page and click " report ",

whether it does any good is another matter,

David B.

Posted by antonius-ra ( 615

)

on Mar-04-07 at 17:46:10 PST

David et al Well you know you gotta hand it to the guy. Where ever have you seen on ebay such a lenghty description on a particular item (that seems nearly irrelevant), I wonder if anyone ever would spend the hour reading it. Of course we all know Johhny is much to busy (as he always states) to spend much time responding to anything and often keeps his chat posts down to 1,000 words or less. Now if that is not pure B.S., then I have not been around the block enough times.

Posted by wrd3 ( 99

) on Mar-04-07 at 17:43:00 PST

oas-cny to satisfy your curiosity about jaywild's post, below is everything he posted alluding to you after your initial post.

Regards,
Bill D.

SCAM ALERT!!! The funny auctions alluded to here yesterday by oas-cny, although to his discredit he did not reveal the seller’s ID, have been found and yes, Virginia, they are scams. Here is one of his lots, but now look at this—same stamp. Further perusal of hsauctions stuff will reveal more amazing similarities.

Found them in an old album, eh? B*llsh*t.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
| Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by postalhysteria ( 3445

)

on Mar-04-07 at 17:40:05 PST

I reported Jono's as a counterfeit.

It was not easy.

eBay really has no clickie for FAKE OR FRAUDULENT ITEM

I ended up in the category COUNTERFEIT COUPON.

I don't think eBay really gives a shirt what vendors sell here. Evidence by the fact that after one clicks REPORT THIS ITEM, go through their limited selections, THEN they ask to enter the item number which means retracing one's steps unless prepared for that detour.

caveat emptor y'all

Jeff

Posted by iomoon ( 1045

)

on Mar-04-07 at 17:25:37 PST

D2

I think there ought to be an equivalent of Darwin Awards for stamp sellers.
Maybe we could call them Rowland Hill awards.
I'd be happy to host possible recipients on my web site.

Posted by dbenson ( 7930

)

on Mar-04-07 at 17:06:17 PST

IO,

The buyer of the Missent to Nazi Occupied Gibraltar card has eventually left him a Negative, I like Johnny's reply,

On close inspection the water damage is fabricated, cover is fraudulent, beware

Reply by jonathandean8: Ebay purchase originally, examined by leading dealer,different opinion expressed

David B.

Posted by iomoon ( 1045

)

on Mar-04-07 at 16:58:48 PST

D2

Amazing how only the "Damaged by sea water" cancels get smudged by seawater after they have been presumably removed from seawater. The address remains intact.

This seller is a total moron.

Posted by dbenson ( 7930

)

on Mar-04-07 at 16:47:03 PST

Io,

I think Johnny is playing funny games with his junior handstamp kit again,

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150097859149&ssPageName=MERC_VIC_RCRX_Pr4_PcY_BID_IT&refitem=150079885681&itemcount=4&refwidgetloc=closed_view_item&usedrule1=CrossSell_LogicX&refwidgettype=cross_promot_widget

David B.

Posted by due2cents ( 26

) on Mar-04-07 at 16:40:07 PST

OAS-CNY-
If I rememeber correctly, You were unable to (afeared)
share the sellers ID jsut some cryptic decription
of the stamps in questions. It was Others who did the work and exposed the items and the seller .
So I do not (IMHO) think you deserve any accolades for
your Outing of anything. When in fact many others took the Ball and ran with it.
Maybe you were the waterboy.
The others who did the work were and are the Team.
again just MHO.
You exposed only a description which did not even lead directly to the items in question. I remember 5 or six folks who tried and finally found those items using
many different type of searches.
So don't hurt Urself while patting your own back.

Posted by abt1950 ( 224

)

on Mar-04-07 at 16:31:23 PST

Evening/morning/afternoon from a soon-to-be frigid NJ. The ongoing story of the scarlet-handed pimp has made for intesesting reading. His take on the pitfalls of selling a collection is masterful in the way it plays on every paranoic fear felt by collectors and their heirs.

Bill: Good luck on getting this guy. As you can tell, he's been a topic of discussion before on this board and others.

Anne in NJ

Posted by iomoon ( 1045

)

on Mar-04-07 at 16:04:23 PST

Jim & Steve

Nothing to become acrimonious about.
Steve stated that he suspected a seller of stealing images without naming the person.
Jim berated Steve for not naming the person.

No problem.
The person was nabbed and foiled.
Kudos to both of you and all the others involved.

Posted by jaywild ( 925

)

on Mar-04-07 at 15:12:45 PST

oas-cny… I’m afraid I am completely in the dark about what you are saying. As I recall, upon a question you posted I contacted one of my sources who looked up possible connections between known scammers and medvid1978. Don’t recall saying anything particular about you, nor can I imagine a reason for doing so.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
| Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by rclwa ( 960

) on Mar-04-07 at 15:12:33 PST

Alec -- Many thanks for the A-Z suggestion. It was really fun and I hope we do it again in the future, after I have found a few things I couldn't lay my hands on quickly. I do have many items in mind for many letters that are currently buried. Yesterday I spent a bit of time, without success, trying to find a cover perfect for ZIP CODE. About a year ago I ran across a cover in old family correspondence that gave pause. It was a letter from my sister in Hawaii, with the ZIP code tacked on with a different pen than the address. I checked and discovered the postmark date was ONE WEEK BEFORE the official launch date (July 1, 1963) of the ZIP code program! I'd be hard pressed to find an earlier cover using a ZIP code! There was no reason for anyone to have penned it on after it was received, so either my sister or a postal worker became aware of the correct number in the new (upcoming) program and appended it. My sis had no memory of it, of course, after more than 40 years.

Anyway, that cover will surface one of these days and I'll post it here.

Bob in WA

Posted by iomoon ( 1045

)

on Mar-04-07 at 15:03:09 PST

Peter

Those references are hilarious.

I thought of putting a few on my web site.
Starting with this one from my old friend Ronny.

It's the old jail. (it became too inhumane for prisoners, so now houses the Sheriff's department).

Posted by oas-cny ( 1198

) on Mar-04-07 at 15:00:10 PST

Hey Jay - what did you say about me when I broke the scam medvid1978 or whomever stole his ID was trying?

Heard it though the grapvine that I was to ignore your comments --- just curious what you had to say!

I'm a rookie so take it easy on me but what a pottery dealer starts selling rare stamps for $50 each requiring Paypal payments in 3 days then even I could smell a fraud.

Posted by oas-cny ( 1198

) on Mar-04-07 at 14:54:48 PST

I'm fighting a losing battle over the 209b. So many misrepresent this issue it ridiculous. A $3.00 stamp being sold for hundreds.

So many dark browns are called 209b -- the real color is black brown --- see 130021336695 -- you can clearly see this stamp is black brown.

It's like the 518 violet brown and 518b deep brown -- once you have seen one you know the difference.

Anyone know where a defitive pictice of a 209b black brown is let me know! I question ever a couple of the certified ones being sold --- I was at Mystic Stamp and they had dozens of the black browns -- clearly black then a touch of brown!

thanks

OAS-CNY or scheidel@scheidelco.com

Posted by antonius-ra ( 615

)

on Mar-04-07 at 14:13:04 PST

Linda & Bjorn Thanx

Posted by jaywild ( 925

)

on Mar-04-07 at 14:10:49 PST

NOIP… Just got this image from a fellow who deals in precancels. (The contrast has been greatly exaggerated so it can be read.) It’s the Holy Grail of Arizona precancels—Jokake—even crummy copies of which command several hundred dollars.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
| Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by postalhysteria ( 3445

)

on Mar-04-07 at 14:03:33 PST

Mike the Pimp has a phone number listed on his ME page. Has he been phoned? I have not been keeping up this weekend.

eBay used to have escrow payment services available. I never used it. Does it still exist?

Jeff

Posted by chaswilly ( 1603

) on Mar-04-07 at 13:30:10 PST

dbenson, David, yes disappointed, but he's the expert. I really couldn't find a matching circumference in any of my hundreds of examples, so I kinda figured it to be bad. Have 2 other items he declared fake and/or forged that I will be listing in the future.

Posted by bjornmu ( 892

) on Mar-04-07 at 13:27:20 PST

ant-ra, isn't the buyer's email address included in the end-of-auction email you get? I know the seller's is in the email I get as a buyer.

Posted by mini*lindy ( 323

)

on Mar-04-07 at 13:26:29 PST

Mitch, their email address is in the end of auction email sent to you by ebay.
Linda

Posted by antonius-ra ( 615

)

on Mar-04-07 at 13:21:28 PST

Anybody know how to get a buyers email address these days?. It use to be on your ebay summary page, now nothing. I went as far as to request contact information and got everything but an email address (although it looks like they sent him mine). This person is trying to back out of a "buy it now" and I was trying to send them an email stating my thoughts. The email is to long for the box ebay has for contacting members. I don't know how to condense it farther and still make myself perfectly clear.
As if dealing with this stuff was not a large pain before Ebay has figured out a way to make it even more nerve racking.
Plz any thoughts?

Posted by dbenson ( 7930

)

on Mar-04-07 at 13:13:39 PST

Charles, I bet you were really disappointed when the LV came back from the expertiser, it looks so good. I seem to remember you mentioning the acquisition on Richard's board a few years ago,

David B.

Posted by knuden ( 2214

)

on Mar-04-07 at 13:00:00 PST

peetah - I know I'm a bit late but in my Michel Ganzsachen-Katalog Europa West from 2000/01 your British Empire Exhibition Postal envelope has cat. # U29 and have a catalog value of €20 ($26). :O)

K.E

I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!

Posted by chaswilly ( 1603

) on Mar-04-07 at 12:59:56 PST

dbenson

David, thanks for the tip on the Morocco - I'll try and get it changed. As for the restaurant, my wife and decided that we didn't want to be in the business any more. I am 60, she's 59 and it took a lot out of both of us. Sold the trucking company in Jan. 2004, we really didn't need it to eat, more of a playhouse than anything. Now it's time to be retired and get back to stamps.

Posted by dbenson ( 7930

)

on Mar-04-07 at 12:55:09 PST

Charles, they are listed in Gibbons as Postal Fiscals, it is F14 although a fake cancel on a fiscal stamp still makes it a fiscal and not a postal fiscal although it may need a legal opinion to decide.

I remember when you mentioned that you were remodelling the restaurant (for your daughter from memory), what made you decide to sell (and why place on Ebay)

David B.

Posted by dbenson ( 7930

)

on Mar-04-07 at 12:52:00 PST

Charles, I would lave it in Brit. Commonwealth but change the description to make it eye catching.

title

MOROCCO AGENCIES, 1901 KEVII 3p. on 2s.6 Purple, Mazagan.

description,

MOROCCO AGENCIES, SPANISH CURRENCY, 1901 3p. on 2s.6 Dull Purple canc. Mazagan.

There is no need for any catalogue numbers as the main collectors of those are in GB & Germany.

The Romania was easy to see as the top left 2 touches the frame. That site is one of the best on the web for any country to discern forgeries,

The LV should still have either Lombardy Venetia or better still Austria Italy in the title then searches may pick it up,

David B.

Posted by chaswilly ( 1603

) on Mar-04-07 at 12:50:14 PST

dbenson Actually, there is no catalog # for the LV. It's just a fiscal postally used. At least not in Fercehenbauer anyway, maybe in some specialized fiscal catalog.

Posted by chaswilly ( 1603

) on Mar-04-07 at 12:47:17 PST

ant-ra There is still a flat fee for listing real estate. It's for sale, if you're interested. The reason ebay has me in Germany is that I am a registered seller on ebay.de and that's the box they put me in.

Posted by chaswilly ( 1603

) on Mar-04-07 at 12:43:50 PST

dbenson

David, thanks for the heads-up on the Romania. I will delist it. The LV is in Italy and area so think it's OK. Where would you put the Morroco, if not in British Commonwealth?

Posted by sayasan ( 632

)

on Mar-04-07 at 12:36:52 PST

wmralph

Duncan may be referring to this rant, which I posted earlier:

"jmav@earthlink.net (Michael DuBasso) EBAY IS NO LONGER A VIABLE AUCTION HOUSE! For over a century the excitement and interest in auction firms was built on sales based on "what you see is what you get." Every product was sold on an "AS IS BASIS." That is no longer Ebays policy. The vendor must now under Ebays new terms and conditions fully warantee anything sold on their site. The buyer may return anything they want by simply stating "It's not as described." The buyer after examing the item can find a tiny flaw or even create a tiny flaw and return the item for a full refgund. This is all great for the buyer but the vendor has no recourse! EBAY IS NOTHING OTHER THAN A RETAIL STORE."

I found that when I googled your seller's name. It's on a site www.auctionwire.info, which is now suspended, so you would need to click on the cached pages link in the Google result, where it is archived. But I'll try and link to it here. You might need to "control F" the name DuBasso to find it among all the verbiage.

Good luck.

Posted by dbenson ( 7930

)

on Mar-04-07 at 12:34:45 PST

Chaswilly, the Lombardy fake cancel is a nice item and possibly an Italian colector may desire it but you have listed it without stating the country, only the catalogue number. If I was you I would reword the description (and while your at it the Morocco as well),

David B.

Posted by dbenson ( 7930

)

on Mar-04-07 at 12:32:20 PST

Chaswilly,

I suggest that you add this to your list of favorites,

http://www.romaniastamps.com/forg/forgeframe.htm

then you can add the Romania 2pa. Cuza to your list of forgeries.

I noticed that you listed the Romania with a description which will make it easy to identify for those who do not use Scott's but you listed the Morocco Agencies with a Scott's number which makes it difficult. It will easily sell if you listed it with a proper description as it is a very scarce stamp with a rare cancel.

I also noticed that the forged stamps are not marked on the reverse as per Ebay's rulings, there has been some discussion lately,

David B.

Posted by antonius-ra ( 615

)

on Mar-04-07 at 12:28:18 PST

chaswilly Is the restaurant a forgery? Seems odd you are listed as being in Germany and the restaurant is in
Joplin Mo. Is there still a flat out listing fee for real estate, if not seems like A $1,700,000 reerve would be kinda pricey. I know you area long time poster and I have no doubt of your integrity but it seemed curious to me <:~`)

Posted by antonius-ra ( 615

)

on Mar-04-07 at 12:17:29 PST

Bill H. As I suggested last night (and also Bjorn)
I saved all the images to disk from that auction just in case you did not know how to do it, or the seller erased them before you got around to it. If you happen to need them (at any time)I can email them to you. You should also make scans of the pages you recieved.
Mitchell

Posted by chaswilly ( 1603

) on Mar-04-07 at 11:52:51 PST

I just listed a couple of forged goodies, if anyone's interested.

Posted by keleofa ( 3391

)

on Mar-04-07 at 11:37:42 PST

Swiss Hotel markings,

Baur au Lac - Flag receiving marking?

I was wondering if anyone familiar with Swiss hotel markings (Roger?) can tell me specifically what I have. I know Baur au Lac is a fancy hotel in Zurich. This is a purple date stamp, 25 Mar 1906. Card is posted Zurich to Berlin. Back of card depicts Zurich Polytechnikum.

T I A,

Matt in Arizona

Posted by greenwave4u ( 72

) on Mar-04-07 at 11:37:34 PST

wmralph The link you want is here on his own website:-
http://www.americanphilatelic.com/auctionpitfalls.html

The reference list makes fun reading!
Peter

Posted by knackshack ( 1775

)

on Mar-04-07 at 11:26:24 PST

hello just thought i would stop by and say Hi...:)

Posted by dbenson ( 7930

)

on Mar-04-07 at 11:23:34 PST

Vinny, that's a good question.

Ebay does have a Fakes & Reproductions category but it is not mandatory that all fakes are listed there.

The original arrangement between the APS & Ebay was rushed through without any discussion with Ebay users and was organised by a small group from the APS. At that time the manager of Stamps Ebay.US had virtually no philatelic knowledge (I think he had collected US fdc's when he was a youth) and relied on suggestions from the APS subcommittee who at that time could only see a huge increase in applications for certificates as the motive for getting involved with Ebay. The British Manager of Ebay.Stamps had a better philatelic background and realised that by making a compromise and allowing forgeries to be only listed in the forgery category was doing more for philately.

For an individual to mark stamps on the back in any way just for the privilege of being allowed to be sold on Ebay.US is one of the worst decisions that has ever been made in philately. It has most probably caused more genuine stamps to be ruined and forged stamps to be virtually uncollectible,

David B.

Posted by peetah ( 466

) on Mar-04-07 at 11:15:48 PST

I feel a little bit like I am going from pillar to post. LOL I'll hold onto the cover and list it with a used 432 or 433 I know I have lurking somewhere. Thank you both for the input!

Posted by peetah ( 466

) on Mar-04-07 at 11:10:13 PST

Or swipe it from another poster? LOL £ Never cared much more covers myself for that very reason.

Posted by vinnysf ( 360

) on Mar-04-07 at 11:09:22 PST

dbenson: thanks for the response. i think marking the stamp with a sharpie ruined the provisional fake completely. its got a few bids so at least it will be gone. why doesn't the U.S. ebay have a fakes and forgeries section like ebay U.K.? they definitly have enough forgeries listed to justify having such a section

Posted by dbenson ( 7930

)

on Mar-04-07 at 11:06:38 PST

IO, they were starting prices at Auctions, I don't know the realisations.

Peetah, you may as well list it, you have already scanned it,

David B.

Posted by iomoon ( 1045

)

on Mar-04-07 at 11:04:02 PST

peetah

I don't know if D2's values are for suggested value or selling price.
The 1925 Exhibition are not common.
Conversely, people are more retiscent about collecting stationery since it is so bulky.

Easiest way to posting pound symbol is to google "pound sign " and cut and paste it.

Posted by claghorn1p ( 410

)

on Mar-04-07 at 11:02:16 PST

Here are two more ????????? Gryazovets and ?????? Irbit

Posted by claghorn1p ( 410

)

on Mar-04-07 at 10:44:09 PST

other alpabet ???????? which is Krapivna which got me interested in Russin Zemstvo. Greetings Rainer 22028

Posted by peetah ( 466

) on Mar-04-07 at 10:39:56 PST

now why won't that code for Pounds take

Posted by peetah ( 466

) on Mar-04-07 at 10:38:54 PST

Grrrrr! £ 55 = £ 22 Thanx dbenson not worth listing I guess.

Posted by peetah ( 466

) on Mar-04-07 at 10:36:05 PST

iomoon 4 shilling/10shillings = 40% so a guess of 40% of £55 = £22 = $42.75 (2001) would not seem unreasonable. I wonder what the SG 2007 is for GB 433. Tried their online site, but I just keep spinning my wheels. I'll try it again later. But, even at $42.75 it seems worth listing.

Posted by dbenson ( 7930

)

on Mar-04-07 at 10:34:19 PST

Peetah,

I found these up for sale at different local auctions in GB,

1925 H&GB25 (Huggins EP87) Empire Exhibition 1½d brown on cream unused envelope. £5.00

Great Britain EP67 KGV 1.5d brown 1925 Empire Exhibition envelope Mint £5.00

David B.

Posted by iomoon ( 1045

)

on Mar-04-07 at 10:04:21 PST

peetah

For comparison, the stamp in mint condition was valued at 10 shillings in 1951. The stamp in mint condition was valued at £55 in my 2001 catalog.

Posted by iomoon ( 1045

)

on Mar-04-07 at 09:55:57 PST

peetah

It is EP48 in Robson Lowe's Encyclopedia of British Empire Postage Stamps, Great Britain and the Empire in Europe.
It was valued at 4 shillings in mint condition in 1951, for what its worth.

Posted by peetah ( 466

) on Mar-04-07 at 09:30:51 PST

Thanx, iomoon Picture = 1000 words, so here is a picture of my
GB SG#433 envelope.
Any Great Britain collector able to value this?

Posted by iomoon ( 1045

)

on Mar-04-07 at 09:26:02 PST

peetah

SG 433 is the 1 1/2d brown 1925 British Empire Exhibition.
SG does not list stationery.

Posted by wmralph ( 5 ) on Mar-04-07 at 09:24:54 PST

Re the $15,000 SCAM

To Duncan C.

Your comments have been most helpful & well written. Please, can you give me a link to the auction site with the seller's "rant about eBay's selling rules" ?
Certainly, theft by fraud is a federal crime, and I will assist any investigation by authorities. One in Baltimore is already familiar...

Of interest, Conrad Black, a once-Canadian, is charged with
mail fraud, wire fraud & etc. & the Chicago trial is big news here in cold Canada.

Sincere thanks Duncan for your helpful discussion
Bill H.

Posted by infla-alec ( 513

)

on Mar-04-07 at 09:23:53 PST

A-Z My thanks go to everyone who participated in the ABC show these past 26 weeks. It was a far greater success than I ever imagined it would be. The vast array of material shown was simply astounding. What was especially pleasing to me was to see so many new faces taking part. The main thing was so much fun was had and many really dug deep and used their imagination to find things to post.
I don't know if it is a hassle asking someone to judge the weekly showings for the current and future themes as that does place some in an awkward spot especialy if they are not online all the time and miss a few days of posts.
Personally I'd be quite happy for ones to simply show whatever they can come up with relevant to the weekly topic with no judging being made by anyone.
Posts do not need to have a detailed explanation unless the poster wishes to do so.
Help is available for anyone else wishing to take part who does not know how. Please do not be scared to ask either openly here or mail me privately via ebay.
No one will ridicule any material shown so have no fear of that happening. The common material is just as welcome to be shown as anything unique or rare.
You don't have to own the material shown but if it is a copied image then please do say so. Having fun is the aim of the game.

Bill H Until you have sought expert legal advice and help I would not make any statements openly here of your intentions or what action is being taken against that seller. However please do let us know the final outcome. Needless to say we do feel sorry for your loss and sadly it is something that happens all to often.
I know it is hard to take in that you have been scammed and it is easy to feel foolish in that you were taken in. Many would not admit to such a thing out of sheer embaressment but I take my hat off to you for having the courage to admit you made a big mistake. Fingers crossed you do get your money back. What the chances are of that I honestly don't know, but good luck in your endevours.
Such scammers are the scum of the earth and should be shot on sight !

Posted by peetah ( 466

) on Mar-04-07 at 09:20:46 PST

iomoon Just wanting to make sure we are talking about the same thing. By stamped envelope I meant as in postal stationary.

Posted by iomoon ( 1045

)

on Mar-04-07 at 09:10:40 PST

peetah

It went on sale May 6th 1925 and had sold out by October 30th of same year.
SG values it (in my old catalog) at £65 on cover.

Posted by peetah ( 466

) on Mar-04-07 at 09:01:03 PST

Any Great Britain collector. I have a GB SG# 433 stamped envelope (about 12 mm x 9.5mm) that has been kicking around here for some time. Any value to this item?

Posted by wmralph ( 5 ) on Mar-04-07 at 08:55:36 PST

Good morning members re THE $15,000 SCAM

I have looked at the US Criminal Code & find it most useful in this impending case. Sections apparently contravened by the seller of Item # 220073134492 Mr. M. DuBasso are:

Title 18 Section 1341 Frauds & Swindles [mail fraud]: "Whoever, having devised or intending to devise any scheme or artifice to defraud, ... or to sell, ... any counterfeit"

Of particular interest to US collectors as the four $2 to $5 Columbian MNHOG 'reprints' in the $15,000 swindle Item # 220073134492 link to
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=012&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&viewitem=&item=220073134492&rd=1&rd=1
These are counterfeit copies of stamps that are still valid for US postage (!). Apply this law:

Title 18 501 Postage stamps, postage meter stamps, and postal cards:
"2nd Para ...Whoever makes or prints, or knowingly uses or sells... Whoever after such postage stamp, postage meter stamp, stamped envelope, or postal card has been printed, with intent to defraud, delivers the same to any person ... imprisoned not more than 5 years.."

Title 18 1343 Fraud by wire, radio, or television:
"Whoever, having devised or intending to devise any scheme or artifice to defraud, or for obtaining money or property by means of false or fraudulent pretenses... transmits...30 years". Includes any Ebay / Net transactions.

Above from Cornell Law School http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00001343----000-.html

All is going very well with my investigations - I will post actions in the near future for the benefit of all. In the code there is even a section on fradulent foreign stamps Title 25 Chapter 25 Section 502.

For those following comments since yesterdy's original posting, it will not be posssible for me to "bare all" the costs of a possible USPS Inspection Service investigation in this possible felony offense.

Bill H. in Canada

Posted by iomoon ( 1045

)

on Mar-04-07 at 08:55:12 PST

Choose not chose.

STÖÐVARFJARÐAR

Posted by deh3 ( 1426

)

on Mar-04-07 at 08:53:24 PST

Not exactly part of an alphabet (Chinese characters do not constitute an alphabet), but here
are two examples of a bilingual AR handstamp, the Chinese characters meaning (I'm told) double registered. The same term is used in Greek Cyprus (I'm told), diplosystemeni (I won't attempt to put it in Greek letters), to mean the same thing.

Posted by iomoon ( 1045

)

on Mar-04-07 at 08:46:12 PST

ÐÐÐÐÐÐ

I finally figured it out.
Go to control panel.
Click 'date, time, language,regional option´
Click ´regional and language options
Click language.
Click details.
Click on add.
Chose desired language

Posted by bjornmu ( 892

) on Mar-04-07 at 08:39:11 PST

deh3, no I didn't forget it but that letter doesn't come at the end, it's between D and E. It doesn't appear to be used at the start of words, but I did show one that contains two, namely HERÐUBREIÐ

Posted by taodave ( 137

) on Mar-04-07 at 08:37:55 PST

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Not true--- the Z's were very exciting to judge! And there were so many of them!!

I savoured every one of the entries. Being of a postal history bent, I was very impressed early on by lavart's Zurück entry, but then knuden posted a fascinating group of his own Zurücks. I thought knuden really had the contest sewn up when he later posted a group of wonderful Sudetenland Zepps. But then, late in the contest, lavart upped a second group of great Zurücks, this time from the German Colonies, which he knows are a special weakness of mine (although I was just a tiny bit disappointed that he didn't include one from DOA).

Lavar, you may not have won your race against Arnold S for Governor of California, but you HAVE won the eBay chatboard Z contest. I hope you enjoy judging this week's non-Latin alphabet entries, which I note have already started to pour in.

taodave

Posted by iomoon ( 1045

)

on Mar-04-07 at 08:32:00 PST

? is for
?????? (rossiya)

Posted by deh3 ( 1426

)

on Mar-04-07 at 08:26:10 PST

Bjornmu: You forgot the eth (I haven't figured out how to put it here), also known as thodh, with a hard th sound (as opposed to the soft th sound of the thorn). A capital eth (D with a short horizontal stroke through it) appears on one of the Icelandic stamps you showed. I believe both eth and thorn were used in English until about the fifteenth or sixteenth century.

Posted by 1covers ( 1293

)

on Mar-04-07 at 08:11:22 PST

Sometimes an attorney may have previously handled cases against a party which may give them an advantage in securing a fast settlement.

Posted by iomoon ( 1045

)

on Mar-04-07 at 07:55:11 PST