eBay chatboard archive: Apr-09-07 to Apr-15-07 week

Posted by iomoon   ( 1049 ) on Apr-12-07 at 15:04:09 PDT   Listings
Now we have both high wind and fire warnings.



We keep using acronyms as though we assume people know what they mean, so just in case they don't, SG = Stanley Gibbons, RL = Robson Lowe.

Posted by vonbag   ( 172 ) on Apr-12-07 at 15:01:18 PDT   Listings
Engage or not engage (in the perfs discussion)?


Apart from this temporary reflexion, neglecting that I saw all the pictures and I agree with Norvic, more importantly,
thank you to Jim (IO) and Bill B. (Jackstay) for their kind words and greeting!

The rare perforations, sooner or later end up in the hands of who can tell it (I think this was a Chinese proverb, or something LOL).

All the best,
Paolo
Posted by rolyrj   ( 4 ) on Apr-12-07 at 15:00:40 PDT   Listings
grrr link is Here
Posted by rolyrj   ( 4 ) on Apr-12-07 at 14:58:32 PDT   Listings
NOIP; If you really want a perf nightmare try this lot . What I have shown is less than half of the total variations for this ONE stamp. I have examples where the perf changes from one guage to another along one side of the stamp. ie. The perf starts from left to right along the top edge at 14 but at about the half way mark changes to 14½ or even 15. Now that really messes with your perg guages :)
Cheers,
Roly
Posted by cobbie10   ( 6080 ) on Apr-12-07 at 14:55:52 PDT   Listings
And if anyone wants the € sign, just hold down Alt and type 0128.
Posted by jimbo   ( 392 ) on Apr-12-07 at 14:35:58 PDT   Listings
norvic,
While holding down the [Alt] key, type 0190 then release the [Alt] key to get ¾. . .

6381 eagle,
I know that's what you meant and most would understand it, but some might not.

You can find these instructions by going to [start]>[All Programs]>[Accessories]>[System Tools]>[Character Map]. This fits for my XP Professional. My Windows 2000 Pro was similar but not the same. You may have to look around there for a while.

jimbo
Posted by iomoon   ( 1049 ) on Apr-12-07 at 14:35:34 PDT   Listings
All

I found font for Mozilla that will enable you to read mathematical html fonts, but can't find a way to convert keyboard so you can write them with going into WORD contortions or using the alt key.

Ian

Many thanks for the corrections to the Unofficial Royal Mail stocklist, hopefully I have corrected them all, except haven't got around to albums yet. CYE.
Posted by 6381eagle   ( 499 ) on Apr-12-07 at 14:22:56 PDT   Listings
norvic

For ¾ try alt+0190. You've got to type both zeros.

Posted by dbenson   ( 8091 ) on Apr-12-07 at 14:05:19 PDT   Listings
roger,

with the Australian States all the knowledge that is needed is to know which perforation machines were used on which stamps. In some cases the pins weren't precisely spaced and measuring perfs. can be a nightmare and basic catalogues are a waste of time.

Notes in RL Volume V will answer 99% of queries without getting any other references,


David B.
Posted by malolo   ( 837 ) on Apr-12-07 at 13:54:30 PDT   Listings
)'>) Here we go again! LOL

It does no good to have the ability to measure perfs to the nearest 1/10,000,
if the catalogues only list stamps to the nearest 1/2.

My suggestion is to pick a catalogue, read the limitations in the forward, then proceed and keep all variations not worrying about the possible value. If you want to have a nightmare collect Australian States according to Scott! I guarantee it is not possible, every other stamp is a perf variety. Solution for most collectors would be the Gibbon's Australia Concise. I'm cerytain there are other Australion catalogues as useful.

Roger
Posted by norvic   ( 905 ) on Apr-12-07 at 13:43:31 PDT   Listings
Jim
Alt+190 gives me part of a drawn frame, so I must have the wrong keyboard setting to get 3/4.
I'll have to experiment a bit more.

Perforations
stamps12345 - I'll do it the way I've been doing for 50 years. And I know the difference between "YOUR" and "YOU'RE"
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Apr-12-07 at 13:25:58 PDT   Listings
For those trying to understand what is being discussed, all you need to do is look at CLAGHORN'S link were he measures a perf and doesn't start at the end ,he does it right without lineing up the first perf at the top on his sample .
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 74 ) on Apr-12-07 at 13:10:27 PDT   Listings
Jim From Word you can insert symbol and that will give you the math operators etc ?(?8

cheers

Peter
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Apr-12-07 at 13:03:32 PDT   Listings
NORVIC-----YOUR WRONG IN YOUR STATEMENT ------even when the stamp is started at your line the measurement is the same .It perfs out at 13.3,Do you need to see the scan or put your sample up to show a your correct way .
Posted by stamphick!   ( 336 ) on Apr-12-07 at 12:49:29 PDT   Listings
There are mathematical font packages available for windows but I don't think they come with the standard editions.

I remember that my masters thesis cost me about triple the normal fee since almost all of the 100 pages contained equations with summation or integral signs or Greek letters etc. The typist had an IBM typewriter and a board with replaceable keys to use to make all the symbols. How much easier things are today.
Posted by infla-alec   ( 521 ) on Apr-12-07 at 12:23:09 PDT   Listings
IO/Jim Never used it myself but I believe Windows Excel help section has a section on Formula and their use. More than that sorry I don't know.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1049 ) on Apr-12-07 at 12:05:10 PDT   Listings
Does anyone know if windows has a mathematics font?
Posted by jaywild   ( 930 ) on Apr-12-07 at 11:49:12 PDT   Listings
norvic… There is a ¾, along with ? ? ? ? ? and ?.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by jimbo   ( 392 ) on Apr-12-07 at 10:16:39 PDT   Listings
test,
¾ (alt+0190)

jimbo
Posted by soggy333   ( 55 ) on Apr-12-07 at 08:53:37 PDT   Listings
Jim Lawler et al

The Wayback Machine has a lot of ebay stamp chat days in the archive, although it seems not as many as last year. A little experimentation might find more. Try this URL:

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://chatboards.ebay.com/


Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1286 ) on Apr-12-07 at 08:20:43 PDT   Listings
norvic

Very possibly so. My how things have calmed down since the early days.

Jim L.
Posted by norvic   ( 905 ) on Apr-12-07 at 07:15:41 PDT   Listings
I nver use &#163 in HTML, European keyboards have £ and $ signs and the alt-codes give the rest, as with ½ and ¼ (I wonder why there isn't a 3/4 code?).
Posted by iomoon   ( 1049 ) on Apr-12-07 at 06:55:14 PDT   Listings
Having written that, if you change the fonts on your keyboard, they will work.

Thus Russian

???????????????????????????????

or Icelandic

ÖÐÞ

or Azeri

????????h???????????????????????
Posted by claghorn1p   ( 410 ) on Apr-12-07 at 06:46:04 PDT   Listings
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Posted by iomoon   ( 1049 ) on Apr-12-07 at 06:38:13 PDT   Listings
Good day all.

Ian

If the html command letters are on your keyboard, they probably will work.
If they are not, they wont.

Thus a $ will work, but a £ probably wont on a US keyboard. Maybe.
Posted by norvic   ( 905 ) on Apr-12-07 at 06:25:10 PDT   Listings
Jim L
Hi, and thanks for the clarification. I'm sure we've crossed paths elsewhere? Deeter-list?

Ian
Posted by norvic   ( 905 ) on Apr-12-07 at 06:23:40 PDT   Listings
stamps12345

Your demonstration of perforation measurement is faulty, because the left-most perf tooth (or gap) should be on the left-most vertical line, not on the first diagonal line.


David. Although De La Rue printed and perforated the Malay stamps they used a variety of perforators, even for the Malay stamps, with the $1 being perf 13½, the 50c, $2, $5 being 12½ and the others either 13x12½ or 12½x13 depending on orientation. I agree it is most unlikely that the $5 stamp being queried is not one of these, especially as they were comb perforated. Whilst it is possible (remotely) that the $5 could turn up with 12½, any unusual combination (ie not one of those listed) would surely have been found by now.


ALL
HTML here. So far I have managed to post with 'occasional' HTML. Other than in this posting, I have used the {b} bold code to address individuals, but not used any {p} or {/br} codes and the message has still appeared as intended. (So far!)

Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1286 ) on Apr-12-07 at 06:03:28 PDT   Listings
Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all


norvic
As has already been posted, once a message scrolls off the 200 on this page it is not archived by Live World or eBay and is not searchable. You’ll need to ask on the board, as some do archive the pages on a regular basis.

Jim L.
Posted by soggy333   ( 55 ) on Apr-12-07 at 05:47:42 PDT   Listings
That Morley-Bright web page seems to be translated from some language other than any brand of English.
Posted by flip138   ( 375 ) on Apr-12-07 at 01:06:24 PDT   Listings
Thank you all for the information on the watermark detector.

peetah

I have two perf versions of that Selangor $5 stamp. My first has 22 horizontal teeth x 16 vertical teeth. My second has 23 horizontal teeth x 16 vertical teeth, which is the same as the stamp you linked to.

Using a Peerless plastic gauge and reading to the nearest quarter unit, I make my first stamp perf 12.75 x 12.75 and my second stamp perf 13 x 12.75. If the "12.75" is really slightly lower (e.g. 12.7), then Gibbons would round it down to 12.5 and list as perf 12.5 and perf 13 x 12.5.

Counting the teeth or comparing the stamps directly against each other may be more helpful than relying solely on the perf gauge. For what it's worth, I've known dealers get the perfs wrong on these issues, and I sometimes carry cheap unambiguous examples of each type (i.e. stamps only issued with that perf) to check against their stock.

Hope this helps.

Phil
Posted by jaywild   ( 930 ) on Apr-11-07 at 22:21:54 PDT   Listings
Sorry—I goofed… The distance would be Zone 4, not Zone 3, however that is irrelevant since the minimum insurance charge for anything on April 13 1957 was 20¢, which is what the cover is franked with.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by jaywild   ( 930 ) on Apr-11-07 at 21:30:59 PDT   Listings
NOIP—Rate Question… I am trying to figure out the postage on this cover. The date is April 13 1957. Since this is from the Treasury Department, wouldn’t this be free-franked automatically, even without the penalty admonition? If so then the 20¢ paid would account for insurance for goods worth $25.01-$50, and the penciled “$40” at lower right could have indicated the value of the merchandise.

Otherwise I can’t make this rate fit into fourth class mail, insured. (It would be Zone 3 if it were fourth-class, standard mail B. I am using Beecher & Wawrukiewicz for my rate info.) Thanks in advance, if anyone has any ideas.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Apr-11-07 at 21:27:29 PDT   Listings
PEETAH ----Here is another stamp using a different gauge it measures 13.3 Different stamp and different gauge.....paul
Posted by claghorn1p   ( 410 ) on Apr-11-07 at 21:24:44 PDT   Listings
Paul Sometimes it is fun to use toosl such as THIS click on vertical or horizontal and count the perfs in 2 centimeters, just for fun.

Forgery Identification Site

Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Apr-11-07 at 21:17:34 PDT   Listings
PEETAH ---Try getting a Showgard philatelic Gauge the plastic is stable and I found it the best to work with .,let me make another scan
Posted by peetah   ( 469 ) on Apr-11-07 at 21:08:10 PDT   Listings
stamps12345 Yes, I agree. That is the measurement of your stamp. But, it is not my stamp.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Apr-11-07 at 21:02:29 PDT   Listings
PEETAH------You need help from a stamp licker ......Here is the correct measurement on your stamp PEETAH STAMP......hope this helps ...paul
Posted by peetah   ( 469 ) on Apr-11-07 at 21:02:15 PDT   Listings
dbenson There is a major Philatelic Show May 4-6 I will look to pick up one of those Instanta gauges. Being plastic though, I wonder of the stability of the material. A few years back there was a recall of a bunch of plastic gauges here in the States similar in appearance to the Instanta.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8091 ) on Apr-11-07 at 20:47:57 PDT   Listings
peetah, try a plastic gauge like this with the lines in the centre which allows exact measurements. I have found them better than the metal gauges which are not as exact,

http://www.stanleygibbons.com/shop/index.asp?page=item&stockID=R2534&nav_selected=36

David B.
Posted by peetah   ( 469 ) on Apr-11-07 at 20:42:22 PDT   Listings
malolo dkru dbenson WOW! Now, you have given me something to chew on! I'll save your comments for further reading/study.
dbenson The perf gauges I used were Unitrade (made in Canada)and White Ace (made in USA)and both metal. Additionally,(a couple weeks ago) a third Club member used a different one, plastic as I recall, but I don't know the maker. He got the same 13.5 by 13.
Posted by malolo   ( 837 ) on Apr-11-07 at 19:02:13 PDT   Listings
peetah -
There is a regularly misidentified Swiss stamp, 87b, Zumstein 71E. It was created in 1901 from mostly older sheets fed through a new perforator, 11 1/2 x 12. It is a rare stamp!
The first Standing Helvetia were perforated 11 3/4 x 11/34. So what's the problem? Well, for starters Scott lists the perforation as 11 1/2, which it's not. Second, collectors who have the early printings seem to get 11 1/2 x 12 out of the 11 3/4. This is not deceitful, but my guess is they truly think they have the rare variety. What is the easiest method of confirming th estamp is not an 87b, if the cancel is between 1882-93 it is an 87. If the cancel is 1901-02, it willbe the more valuable version. Both stamps have 14 perfs on each side so counting perfs is out, but when placed together the 11 3/4 stamp is slightly longer than the 11 1/2.

This is why David writes that specialists and specialty catalogues are essential when one finds something other than that listed in a general catalogue. If you look at the Scott catalogue in the Standing Helvetia section 1882-1908 you can believe it possible to collect most varieties. The problem being when you look at the specialized catalogue you discover different identifiable printings that could keep you looking at the stamsp for th erest of your life!

Roger
Posted by dkru   ( 354 ) on Apr-11-07 at 18:45:58 PDT   Listings
peetah...My measurement on your stamp is 13.3 x 13.2, +/- a tenth or so, based on counting fractional holes and measuring the mm dimensions of my own copy. Have you checked the perf's side by side with those of the $1 value (nominal perf 13.5 x 13.5)?

Dana

Posted by dbenson   ( 8091 ) on Apr-11-07 at 18:21:36 PDT   Listings
peetah, I have has the same problem many times myself with variances from what the catalogues state and what I measaure the stamp as but the gauge quoted in normal catalogues are rounded out and should not be taken as exact. There would most probably be specialist catalogues or articles which mention these variances but the standard catalogues don't worry about it. I know a few specialists of Malayan States and the next time I meet one I will ask him what references they use for these perforation variances.

Which perforation gauge were you using, I personally use a plastic gauge which is similar to Instanta and apart from increments shows angles. Have you measured the number of holes to 2cm. to ensure it is an even number,


David B.
Posted by peetah   ( 469 ) on Apr-11-07 at 18:04:29 PDT   Listings
dbenson I can only repeat what I posted earlier, I have perfed about 1000 stamps from the area/era and this one stamp below, is the only one that perfs 13.5 by 13. Also, I just returned from a club meeting where 2 members who looked at it, agreed it was perf 13.5 by 13. They did so independently. I gave neither of them my finding, nor did one know what the other perfed it at. Do a 30 day seller search if you'd like and you will see those that I offered from the 1000 or so I checked for perfs and watermarks.
iomoon I guess the html snafu is another of eBay's "Improvements"?
Posted by malolo   ( 837 ) on Apr-11-07 at 16:55:50 PDT   Listings
BTW - That DOES count as a philatelic post as anything illegal can be considered philatelic. Scroll me off the Board. LOL

Roger
Posted by malolo   ( 837 ) on Apr-11-07 at 16:52:41 PDT   Listings
That's got to be illegal! Somdomite, sort of like Vegemite?
Posted by iomoon   ( 1049 ) on Apr-11-07 at 16:35:44 PDT   Listings
Roger

Don't worry.

"In 1895, when the Marquess of Queensberry--he of the boxing rules--stopped at the private club of Oscar Wilde and left a card addressed to "Oscar Wilde posing Somdomite," the stylish Wilde, a master of the exquisitely crafted sentence and pointed aphorism, might well have had the man prosecuted for bad spelling and vague syntax."
Posted by malolo   ( 837 ) on Apr-11-07 at 16:13:21 PDT   Listings
I can spelll but my fingers agsain refuse to participate. Grrrr.
Posted by malolo   ( 837 ) on Apr-11-07 at 16:11:39 PDT   Listings
One aspect of edited posts is that subsequent posts sometimes seem wierd becasue the original post was changed. I believe it much better to correct ASAP, than to edit a post. Here, as suggested by Anne, the speed of deleting a post often negates confusion later in the day.

I think the difference between a threaded board and a chat, such as this, can be compared to debates within our House of Representatives, and the British Parliment. One is a succession of speaches, the other a debate quite often without notes. If you have ever watched Prime Minister's Question on TV you will frequently hear heckling, "reading, reading", wich means th equestioner is reading their question. It is expected the a questioner is familiar enough with the subject to ask questions without having to read them. This leads to humor, impromptu remarks and other less formal comments, but the whole time order is required and conventions followed.

US government really doesn't follow debate procedures, and the Speaker can cut off members at any point. Of course it raises a stink, but who likes to be cut off in mid sentence. If you got this far, congratulations, and please don't report this post.

Roger
Posted by iomoon   ( 1049 ) on Apr-11-07 at 16:10:54 PDT   Listings
D2

Not sure that the "Englsih" lessons will do them much good but maybe if they undergo corrective eye surgery, like you, it may improve.

My apologies, I couldn't resist that one. :-)

We all screw up every so often.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1049 ) on Apr-11-07 at 16:00:43 PDT   Listings
peetah

It seems that the board will no longer take straight html.
You have to write an html page that appears as you want it to, then cut and paste it to the chatboard.

Just did a major update to the Unofficial Royal Mail stocklist site.
So far I've only managed stamps, presentation packs, cards, definitives, S/s's, Smilers and country stamps. Lots of changes due to changes in NVI rates. I'll finish all the coin cover and albums later.
Posted by sheryll*net   ( 91 ) on Apr-11-07 at 15:56:58 PDT   Listings
Ian - One way to edit your posts on this board is to repost with the edited version, then report the previous post using the "Report" button at the right of the post. After some time, the reported post will disappear.

S2
Posted by dbenson   ( 8091 ) on Apr-11-07 at 15:53:20 PDT   Listings
IO,

The lastest Paypal scam writers need to undertake some urgent Englsih lessons before they try again,

" We ask that you fallow at least 72 hours for the case to be investigated and we strongly recomanded to verify your account in that time. "

David B.

Posted by dbenson   ( 8091 ) on Apr-11-07 at 15:42:13 PDT   Listings
peetah,

I am sorry that you doi not like the answer but the stamps were not produced by a small printing company but by De La Rue who used sophisticated equipment for printing and perforating. The chances of a variance from the normal would be virtually impossible. I would suggest that you also check the perfs. of similar stamps, any of the 1962 printings of any of the Malay States,

David B.
Posted by peetah   ( 469 ) on Apr-11-07 at 15:13:48 PDT   Listings
iomoon don't know what happened to my fraction. Looked good when I tested them before posting. I did not put "amp" in the code at all. It should have worked, though I can see I missed one semicolon.
dbensonOdd then, that after having perfed some 1000 or so stamps of the area/era (though not sure if there was another $5 in the lots)the stamp below is the only one that does not agree with either Scott or S Gibbons (nor dbenson). The stamp is indeed perfed 13.5 by 13.

I wonder, is it possible for someone here to perf the stamp from the picture I posted? Is that something that can be done from a technical point?
Posted by iomoon   ( 1049 ) on Apr-11-07 at 14:35:46 PDT   Listings
DC

If it were me, I would just soak the other stamps off the cover and sell them as used. I don't think a cover collector is going to want a cover with missing stamps.

Morley-Bright.


½½½½ ---- testing
Posted by dbenson   ( 8091 ) on Apr-11-07 at 14:32:49 PDT   Listings
peetah,

no. it is s.g. 127a, perf. 13 x 12 1/2,

If you read the notes in the intro,

3. Perforation & rouletting,

abridged. The Instanta gauge is used to measure perfs., perforations are quoted in the catalogue to the nearest 1/2.

David B.
Posted by peetah   ( 469 ) on Apr-11-07 at 14:21:31 PDT   Listings
Opinions please: Especially Malaysia (Selangor) collectors I have Scott 112 (A17) S Gibbons 127
seen here

with Scott watermark 314 (Multiple Crown CA)
Both Sc and SG list perforations 12½ and 13 X 12½. Additionally, Scott lists 13½ and 12½. My stamp is perfed 13&#189 x 13. I have had a second opinion to verify my reading. Do I have anything of consequence?
Posted by cfrphoto   ( 1058 ) on Apr-11-07 at 13:51:59 PDT   Listings
abt1950,

A couple of years ago, I switched to using Clarity watermark fluid for most stamps because of its superior performance and convenience. Ronsonol is reserved for mass screening of cheaper stamps and removing tape adhesive from various surfaces or self-stick adhesive from the US 1552 10 cent self-adhesive Christmas stamp.

Here is a link to the USSS article

Hope this helps.
Posted by norvic   ( 905 ) on Apr-11-07 at 13:23:02 PDT   Listings
flip138
Morelybright will probably not give good results on those SAfrica stamps - I think you refer to the definitives with RSA watermark in various positions? Likewise also the modern Crown Agents, largely because the paper is thicker.
By comparison, getting the watermark on KG5, KG6 stamps, even on covers/cards, is usually quite easy, providing you use the piece of solid plastic between the layers of the cover, else you will see only the back-flap doubling of paper thickness!
Posted by soggy333   ( 55 ) on Apr-11-07 at 13:14:41 PDT   Listings
Anne
Now that I have stopped using the Morley/Bright I have been using perfluorohexane (C6 F14) otherwise known as Flourinert by 3M. If you know any computer people ask them for a small bottle.It is used as a CPU coolant fluid.This liquid has NO fumes,is INERT as hell,and you could even drink it by mistake with no known effects.It does not work as well as lighter fluid but it won't give a headache,stain the stamp,or melt any fugitive inks.
Posted by soggy333   ( 55 ) on Apr-11-07 at 13:02:04 PDT   Listings
Anne

That Morley Bright detector is the best thing I ever used. Once you get the hang of it you can really see the watermarks. Some single line USPS can be tough because they are not very deep into the paper but trial and error brings them out.British area watermarks show very nicely. Once the little ink sack finally dries out (probaly caused by a very slow osmosis of the lightest fractions in the ink oil through the plastic) no one can remember where to get replacements, having thrown away the original box.
Posted by abt1950   ( 224 ) on Apr-11-07 at 12:41:06 PDT   Listings
So the Morely-Bright is actually worth expense? I have problems with the smell of watermark and especially lighter fluid.


Anne (caffinated but still mispelling words)
Posted by stamphick!   ( 336 ) on Apr-11-07 at 12:38:42 PDT   Listings
antonius-ra...I agree with everything you wrote except I wasn't aware that he had agreed to take on the position.

paperhistory...If you have indeed agreed to be the APS rep will you send me your snail mail address so I can send you a little packet. eusc at dospalos dot org.
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Apr-11-07 at 12:13:46 PDT   Listings
Phil(flip138)
The Morley Bright works by rubbing a little sack(envelope) full of ink like stuff on the stamp
I love mine
I can not answer about the modern stamps you mentioned But I have had good results with my "roll-a-tector"
checking On cover/card stamps, with the exception of the SL watermark washington franklins.
Posted by flip138   ( 375 ) on Apr-11-07 at 12:07:43 PDT   Listings
greenwave4u

Belated thanks for your reply about the Morley-Bright watermark detector. I'm curious now: how does it work - pressure, a bright light and filters, or some other method? Have you tried it on "difficult" watermarks, e.g. South Africa 1960s multiple RSA in triangles or 1970s onwards Crown Agents?

Regards

Phil
Posted by norvic   ( 905 ) on Apr-11-07 at 11:33:31 PDT   Listings
Searching past 200
Thanks all. We just have to hope for steady progress rather than the scorching rate on the Q&A board, on which the earliest message is earlier today. :-(

I'd like to be able to edit my own posts as well, to correct (a) errors and (b) misunderstandings, on the actual erroneous posting rather than in a later addendum.

(Delphi scores again on that as anybody can edit their own message.)
Posted by iomoon   ( 1049 ) on Apr-11-07 at 11:31:10 PDT   Listings
Mitchell

Only one so far, the one with the great pictures of the pumice floating.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 622 ) on Apr-11-07 at 11:25:36 PDT   Listings
Io I was wondering if you recieved the last two emails I sent you? Not sure if I have the correct email address?
Posted by billsey   ( 844 ) on Apr-11-07 at 09:53:42 PDT   Listings
Anne, you really have been missing out on the caffeine this morning. Espresso drinks have less caffeine in them than regular coffee. They just taste stronger...

The 200 post limit would be one of the things I'd change about this board is it were feasible. Richard's board has a much larger limit, and there's no technical reason why there should be any limit (though searching does get more complex when the board is split into multiple pages).
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 622 ) on Apr-11-07 at 08:46:45 PDT   Listings
Stamphick David, I was under the impression that the APS rep position was decided. Matt was nominated several times and had accepted. Several others also voiced their approval to his taking the position. There were no detractors or anyone elses name being put forth for the post. I considered it a done deal even though an official vote was not called. Personally, I cannot think of a better person for the job.
If anyone disagrees then they should voice their concerns and that might, then, warrant a vote.
Mitchell
Posted by abt1950   ( 224 ) on Apr-11-07 at 08:42:55 PDT   Listings
Make it espresso. A double.
Posted by philaclectic   ( 1017 ) on Apr-11-07 at 08:27:27 PDT   Listings
Ephemeral (only one "r"). Lots more coffee......
Posted by abt1950   ( 224 ) on Apr-11-07 at 07:35:54 PDT   Listings
Ephermeral. More coffee please.
Posted by abt1950   ( 224 ) on Apr-11-07 at 07:33:05 PDT   Listings
Ian: The board is ephermal, wich is both a blessing and a curse. Lots of good information gets lost as new posts push it off. But on the other hand, flames eventually scroll off as well.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1049 ) on Apr-11-07 at 07:24:21 PDT   Listings
Ian

Under normal circumstances you cannot search back beyond the end of the 200th message unless someone has copied and pasted the pages to a file or they have been cached.
During particularly heated discussions this board has turned over in a matter of hours rather than days.
Posted by dcderoo   ( 1658 ) on Apr-11-07 at 07:15:23 PDT   Listings
I need help putting some sort of value on this FDC (Canadian FDC.)
Each individual stamp present has a combined Unitrade FDC CV of over C$100.00.
BUTThree stamps have been removed, most likely the 13 cent, 50 cent and one dollar.
ANDObviously the stamps that remain are all on one cover.

What is a reasonable estimate?

Posted by horadam1   ( 436 ) on Apr-11-07 at 07:02:40 PDT   Listings
This is not business, just helpful if someone collects Sydney Railway material and might be interested in a Railway token from the 1800's. There is one on sale from a good coin dealer at the present on ebay. I won an Ethiopian Railway medal, a nice addition to my coin collection, from the same dealer.
Posted by claghorn1p   ( 410 ) on Apr-11-07 at 06:57:56 PDT   Listings
IO Jim That is the point, to make a political satement via the illegals. Either that or exploit topical stamp collectors.

PS: Thanks for the editing correction. Good to have a professor around.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1049 ) on Apr-11-07 at 06:45:01 PDT   Listings
Bill C

I don't like the idea of putting living people on stamps, it opens the doors for exploitation, such as is done by the producers of illegals.
BTW commemorating.
Posted by norvic   ( 905 ) on Apr-11-07 at 06:36:57 PDT   Listings
Jim

Thanks, I know how to search on web browsers (same as I know several ways to increase the text size depending on machine*). If the message at the bottom of this page now is April 8, how do you search back any further, say after a vacation or even just a long weekend?


* Firefox - Ctrl+ or Ctrl-

Mac - Apple+ Apple -

IE7 (who cares?)

IE6 - Menu: View/Text-size/(choose size)

On this keyboard, slide the zoom control at left!

Posted by abt1950   ( 224 ) on Apr-11-07 at 06:28:43 PDT   Listings
Morning/afternoon/evening from a sunny and loud NJ. It's the spring lawn service cleanup season. Ah, the sound of leaf blowers and barking dogs at 8 AM.

I suppose it's time for one of my standard requests for peace and harmony on the board. Hard to do pre-coffee.

As for APS--like all organizations, they are flawed. But the stamp collecting world is a better place because they exist.

Anne, APS 191673. Cofee-bound.


Posted by claghorn1p   ( 410 ) on Apr-11-07 at 06:23:35 PDT   Listings
IO Jim What do you think of the illegals I posted above the yellow box?
Posted by iomoon   ( 1049 ) on Apr-11-07 at 06:18:12 PDT   Listings
Good day all.

From a pommy.
Posted by soggy333   ( 55 ) on Apr-11-07 at 05:57:12 PDT   Listings
The APS sales division can survive ebay.Owners prices will adjust if a book comes back with nothing sold. Postage costs are the same whether buying from sales books or ebay.I like looking at a stamp rather than a scan, in general. Vote for whichever candidates want to continue and finish the match factory without griping about the cost and worrying about tommorrow. I want a nice building to visit so I can sit down and spend a day looking at 1,000 circuit books all at one sitting.Stamp collectors deserve a palace, not a laptop in an outhouse.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Apr-11-07 at 05:40:06 PDT   Listings
DAVID B. -----Me bash the POMMY'S -----Here is a story i think i can tell ,

A few years ago {2004} I got a call at 2:00 AM from the Maryland State Police ,that my vehicle was stopped on the highway for speeding{1,000 miles from Chicago} and was the vehicle stolen ?.I asked who got the car and was told four guys with British accents they had no I.D.s and not answering any questions . I asked the dispatcher did the guys have short hair and all well built ,the request for answer was sent to the patrolmen at the car ,the answer came back ,yes.

I said the vehicle is on loan to the British Government and if a ticket needs to be issued ,issue to me because the young fellows need to keep a clean record ,so the dispatcher understood , he said to the officers to let the car go and it was government business.

Posted by greenwave4u   ( 74 ) on Apr-11-07 at 05:19:27 PDT   Listings
Paul Personally I always drink California or Aussie wine whilst linking hinges:-) Which one turns the paper more blue:-)

On the serious side I would always trust a UK expertised GB or Commonwealth stamp more than any other just because they have more experience in those areas and access to other examples. Just my opinion.
cheers
Peter
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1286 ) on Apr-11-07 at 05:12:00 PDT   Listings
Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all


norvic et al
It is very easy to search this page. I search to find my last post and begin reading the board generally once or twice every day.

To search for a post on this page you hold down the “Crtl” (control) key and press the “F” key. A box will pop up. You input the text you wish to search in the blank field and click the “Find next” button.

Jim L.

Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Apr-11-07 at 04:48:13 PDT   Listings
DAVID B. Me bash the APS ,never .They are all friends of mine Janet,Bob and Ken .You can not see the difference in laughing about a real life situation and hurting/bashing someone .

Most if not all the experts in philately all started out licking hinges for many years and you and me are included ,so i can't see were that is bashing anybody ...lighten up