eBay chatboard archive: Jun-04-07 to Jun-10-07 week

Posted by staceyxfleishman   ( 0 ) on Jun-10-07 at 23:59:44 PDT   Listings
Mr Beneson-I hope that I have not unintentionally caused you a problem. I spoke to someone who came into our shop who had worked at eBay for 18 months who said that they have no experts in any of their categories and regard the Forum boards with a pinch of salt.
Posted by staceyxfleishman   ( 0 ) on Jun-10-07 at 23:52:41 PDT   Listings
Dear Benson-thank you for the link and I hope that the suspension on my father is lift . If not well both my husband and I I think have seller status and he too now has a credit card. I would hate to violate ebay policy but I really think a gross in justice has been done to him.I have just spoken to him and he was not happy that I took it upon myself to raise all the issues I did.Two things really iratated him. One the "contact" perhaps you with your "contacts" that require log in perhaps with your contacts can point that outeBay. Do eBay read this Forum?The other thing that really hurt was the that he had spent perhaps 80 hours listing 50 items. To him it was an educational experience but a waste.He doubts that even if his suspension is lifted, the listing will be reinstated. Perhaps that is another issue you can raise with your ebay contacts.Someone who he sold an item too asked why he had been suspended and said that when eBay changed their payment policy eben though the person "Preferred payment by Paypal" stated that he also accepts cash and that is a no=no with eBay January 2006 policy that they apparently did not broadcast and had 110 listed items removed without the option of simply editing out cash accepted.I had a look at what eBay has banned.Whow. I printed it for my husband who has a MBA in Finace and even lectured on international finance and the Patriot Act and he had never heard of some of the methods of payment they had banned.I notice that you accept $ and Euros. How do you explain that to eBay?
Posted by putney32   ( 1561 ) on Jun-10-07 at 23:16:19 PDT   Listings
yer not wrong there, roly! L.
Posted by rolyrj   ( 4 ) on Jun-10-07 at 23:08:13 PDT   Listings
David

Strewth cobber, can think of a few fair dinkum Strine phrases for this drongo sheila. Buckleys chance of winning a barney here. Makes ya want to chunder at this fruit cakes cock-n-bull.

Cheers

Roly

Posted by billsey   ( 847 ) on Jun-10-07 at 22:52:51 PDT   Listings
Looks like a smudged cork to me, Vinny.
Posted by billsey   ( 847 ) on Jun-10-07 at 22:51:54 PDT   Listings
Heh sure looks like a chip off the block...

Roly, I have a couple that I'm unsure of, both off center enough to make it tough to see the left edge. One of these days I'll scan them and ask your opinion. In the mean time, tomorrow is scheduled for me, my perf gauge and those nicely stacked pennies. Hopefully I'll be able to end up with many more stacks... I won't be able to go farther (read that, mounting anything) until I get back down to the beach house. I'm up at the townhouse this weekend and through Tuesday.
Posted by vinnysf   ( 481 ) on Jun-10-07 at 22:50:48 PDT   Listings
let me try that again...is this the witch?
Posted by vinnysf   ( 481 ) on Jun-10-07 at 22:49:50 PDT   Listings
is >this a fancy cancel of a witch on a broomstick??
Posted by dbenson   ( 8301 ) on Jun-10-07 at 22:23:19 PDT   Listings
stacey, that appears to lead to a dead end, which is normal for Ebay contacts,

this should be OK,

http://cgi1.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll

David B.

Posted by dbenson   ( 8301 ) on Jun-10-07 at 22:21:22 PDT   Listings
stacey, it looks like he can use this to contact Ebay even though he is suspended,

http://pages.ebay.com/help/contact_us/_base/index_6.html?item=&topic=index_6&continue=Continue+%3E

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8301 ) on Jun-10-07 at 22:17:32 PDT   Listings
satcey,

you are blaming the messenger, instead of venting your anger here, do it where it will do some good, to Ebay, plead with them, tell them what you have said here and they will listen if the cause is just and your father just copycatted the types of listings and the rest is coincidence,

David b.
Posted by staceyxfleishman   ( 0 ) on Jun-10-07 at 22:15:36 PDT   Listings
Dear Mr Beson

Thank you for your concern. Are you aware that in ebay's help pages related to suspension, you need to log on where it says "contact". How the hell can you log on when you are suspended. Perhaps you can give my farther some ebay email addresses where he can lodge an appeal and perhaps redeem yourself. My father is awonderful man-he bears no-grudge against you or the Forum-he simply takes life as it come.I am curious to know how you would react if I started selling items on eBay.?
Posted by staceyxfleishman   ( 0 ) on Jun-10-07 at 22:09:01 PDT   Listings
If he and Mr Dean and Mr Darori are one and the same and use the same computer, I am sure that ebay has the technology to tag their computers and i can't imagine that my father is going to buy a new computer or heaven forbid, Mr Dean's old computers.EeBay are probably a lot more sophisticated than you know and realy don't need "snitcher".
Posted by staceyxfleishman   ( 0 ) on Jun-10-07 at 22:05:46 PDT   Listings
I have looked at the Scad site. My father has no connection yo MrDean, Mr Stephen Darori or any of the alias he or Mr Dean uses.He liked Mr Dean's style of making listings interesting and educational to bother the potential buyer and to himself in particular and commented more than once he has all the time in the world and if a listing takes 5 minutes or 3 hours of research it is no matter to him. It is a time killer, he has an inquisitive mind, highly educated and in time his Internet skills will improve but I am afraid not his spelling unless he runs everything through the Word checker and the eBay option takes forever.It runs in the famnily. I too am a typo error bad speller.I hate proof reading.He had bought the Oxford spell checker but has not tried it out yet on ebay. You did not exactly give him an opportunity. Did you.I am surprised. you seem a nice man. What was the bottom line of "snitching" on him.
Posted by staceyxfleishman   ( 0 ) on Jun-10-07 at 21:56:37 PDT   Listings
A seller should be suspended for what he sells -not immaterial associations with references of suspended sellers or mention in an email by the suspended seller.You asked what the x stood for. It was simply because lewiskahn was already a long time ebay member.Had the ID he choose when he came to Israel been taken-he probably would have put a z instead of an x . You have done him a gross injustice and i an curious to see how cynical your fellow Forum members comments will be. I cannot say that for you, to quote my father, I have only started following the Ebay Chat Forum. But to "snitch" on a new member and not give him a chance is not appropriate to someone of your status as the premier philatelist on the Forun (again quoting my father).You have done him a gross in justice.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8301 ) on Jun-10-07 at 21:56:01 PDT   Listings
stacey,

please note,

I did not make any comment about your fathers predicament, all I did was inform Ebay that there was similarities between his type of listings, his method of listings, his terminology that made me suspect that the seller may have been a previously Narued member, Stephen Darori and other aliases he has used. If Ebay found a connection between the ID you father was using and Stephen Darori they had no choice but to ban him immediately.

If your father has no connection with Mr. Darori then he may have banned for another reason and it may be temporary, keep on contacting Ebay and he may be reinstated,

David B.
Posted by rolyrj   ( 4 ) on Jun-10-07 at 21:50:04 PDT   Listings
billsey This is one of my latest aquisitions.
It is a UHM 4 x 4 block with selvedge and Plate 4 markings.
The block also includes two re-entries, at least one value block retouch and a very clear plate scratch across two stamps. A very nice exhibition piece indeed and I managed to get it by promising my first born, arm and left leg still intact :)
Cheers

Roly
Posted by staceyxfleishman   ( 0 ) on Jun-10-07 at 21:49:25 PDT   Listings
Mr Benson-sorry-the nessage board has a limit in the number of characters it cab use so I did not see your comment. He has done so. But with 14 million sellers of philatelic material -you probably can find 100,000 with similar stock and 10,000 similar to the stock you sell and if only 10 have been suspended that sell similar stock to yourself, it is no reason to "snitch" on you.He stated openly what he will sell and no doubt intended to buy collections and break them up.He was open about his association with Putzel. Nothing on his listing was suspect although Isoon? corrected one item and he appreciated it.He has a fair returns policy. open to any correction. He should have been given a chance before "snitched" on.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8301 ) on Jun-10-07 at 21:43:47 PDT   Listings
If there are any buyers out there that want to ask a question on a Cyprus QV 1s. overprint, please go ahead and ask,

There are two of us eagerly awaiting your questions,

David B.
Posted by staceyxfleishman   ( 0 ) on Jun-10-07 at 21:42:46 PDT   Listings
As for the cynical comment about the lass of a leg and probably the other soon also to diabetes. I would not wish what he has gone through on any members of the cynical and sarcastic members (why don't you stick to stamps). He lost his leg and wife )my mother) more or less at the same time and the challenge of coming on Aliyah and living alone is a credit to his resolution not to be burden on society.He was looking forward to spending his retirement as an ebay seller. The basis of his suspension is questionable. He was very open in his me column, did not hide his connecttion to the late Ralph Putzel and I won't change my ebay ID simply to give him another seller ID.It is he who will sell our Judaica for us.You have done him a gross misjustice Mr Benson.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8301 ) on Jun-10-07 at 21:42:06 PDT   Listings
stacey, you will have to take that up with Ebay, I only reported the similarities between your fathers listings and the previou twice narued listings. I only reported it, I didn't pull the chain. If your father or you wants to take it further there are means but this is not one of them,

David B.
Posted by staceyxfleishman   ( 0 ) on Jun-10-07 at 21:35:37 PDT   Listings
As for not memtioning the Instition that was going to bemefit from some sales (which will stop-eBay auctions are different from landbased auction), anyone living in Raanna or Israel could name it. It is the best and only one in Raanana. and in any event the donations would have come through his New York bank account.That does not violate eBay's donation laws.What you do with the proceeds of your auction, Mr Benson , is your business but I am certain that you do make donations.As for outbidding another Forum member on one collection-well that was fair and square and paid for immediately.The incinuationwas missed completely. He has followed the stamp Forum off and on for 3 years and knows why Mr Dean was suspended.But simply been mentioned in Mr Dean's email to ex-buyers and sellers is no reason for suspensionor mentioning he had worked for the late Ralph Putzel.You have done him a gross injustice.
Posted by staceyxfleishman   ( 0 ) on Jun-10-07 at 21:25:03 PDT   Listings
Mr D.Benson-I have no idea why you felt it necesary to "snitch" on my father "lewisxkahn". His only association with Jonathandean8 was an email he wrote to MR Dean when Mr Dean in his elaborate description metioned the late Ralp Putzel, a premier stamp dealer and even better philatelic author on philatic South African issues . Mty father simply wrote to Mr Putzel saying he had worked for him as a teenager and latter as a university student, rising from a packer to a catalogue unfer the close supervision of Mr Putzel. He mentioned he would be coming on aliyah (immigrate to Israel)with my family and would probably while away his retirement as a seller on eBay with the material he had inherited from his father and other material he would purchase in collections.Among the liquidation stock of Putzel's mail auction was a very large reference collection. Out of date but very usefull. He subsequently bought further reference material.Mr Dean courteously wrote to all his clients a number of letters ,coping my father who had never sold or purchased from him anything, that they should look at "lewisxkahn" which my father had mentioned would be his sellers ID since leis kahn was taken. He hoped that it would still be available when he came on aliyah. The x stands for nothing.I think that you have done him a gross injustice -he only has respect for you as a philatelist based on your input in the stamp Forum and cannot understand your action.
Ebay no doubt have technology that tags users and computers they use and his is a new one -state of the art-brought with him on aliyah.He has never met Dr Dean (or any member of his family)neither likely to as Mr Dean in his letter states , he will be based in Geneva and has appointed an Israeli manager to manage his business interest. Nor would be be interested. We were amazed at the number of boxes of sellable ebay material that his father had acumulated and kept in storage. it took up a good third of his lift (container you are allowed to bring personal items with when you emigrate from South Africa). I and my husband have bought a second hand judaica and book store which had a large quantity of judaica items in it.
Posted by rolyrj   ( 4 ) on Jun-10-07 at 20:54:37 PDT   Listings
billseyGreat !!!
That is real good news to hear that my site has been helpful for someone :)
Well, just let me know if you have any trouble with any of them because I have other resources here that will help as well.
Cheers and thanks for the feed back.
Roly
Posted by keleofa   ( 3464 ) on Jun-10-07 at 20:50:29 PDT   Listings
Vinny,

If you paid and were issued a number I would use it. IMHO no one is really going to be concerned one way or another. It will be several months before your name appears in American Philatelist.

Matt in Arizona
Posted by vinnysf   ( 481 ) on Jun-10-07 at 20:34:15 PDT   Listings
i applied for membership with the APS and i got my membership number but it is not official until my application gets listed in the newsletter thing. can i use list my membership number in my ebay listings now if i listed it as "pending approval" or something like that?
Posted by abt1950   ( 227 ) on Jun-10-07 at 18:32:17 PDT   Listings
Good night to all and to all sweet dreams of deciphering cancels, SCWs, and exceptional ebay finds. Anne
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Jun-10-07 at 18:11:12 PDT   Listings
NOIP------The only way we are really going to know what the deal between E-BAY and the SCW with the APS is when they step on the wrong toes or mess with the wrong group.

They will get a invite to a court appearance and then the attorney will ask for discovery and all the contracts ,agreements and money will have to be disclosed for the courts .All it will take is one wrong move and the records will be open ........Those outside the U.S. don't really understand how fast the courts here will rip open the curtain of secretcy.

Posted by dbenson   ( 8301 ) on Jun-10-07 at 17:45:45 PDT   Listings
George, re the Cyprus fakes,

please show the items you are discussing here or at least mention the lot numbers and ask members to give thier opinions whether the stamps have fake overprints or not. After a few replies contact the buyers and tell them to look at this chat as their may be comments on it that may interest them. In that way the buyers can make their own decisions whether the stamps are fake or not,

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8301 ) on Jun-10-07 at 17:42:48 PDT   Listings
The SCW & the APS definitely have the approval of Ebay to check all material available for sale to the US whether it is lsted on Ebay.US or any other Ebay worldwide.

The only other Ebay area that checks material is Ebay.Germany and that is sent to a group which hasd no affiliation with any stamp society. Most stamp societies and associations in the world are very small and wouldn't have the capabilities as they are not the same as the APS which has individual members which pay dues and has their own beuilding and employees. Most of the overseas associations are national associations which the constituent societies belong to. Most of them do not even have a permanent home, just meet every now and the various executive members handle whatever work has to be done. Maybe 1 or 2 in the world may have a paid employee but that would be the major countries like France, Germany, UK but all the others would be no bigger than your local stamp club.

There are moves afoot to organise a group to monitor Australian items listed on Ebay Australia but no definite agreement yet.

Billsey,

I didn't say it was a drain on their resources, I said that someone from the APS had said it was and it was mentioned a few times in the early APS minutes. The APS walked into this without an exit strategy if something went wrong, what does that remind you of,

David B.


Posted by mini*lindy   ( 379 ) on Jun-10-07 at 17:28:08 PDT   Listings
lou cards no I have not used LIVE AUCTIONS on eBay, but a new account may have to have some feedback. I'm not sure all the Live Auctioneers accept registration from (0) feedback bidders.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Jun-10-07 at 17:07:35 PDT   Listings
WAIT A MINUTE -------Maybe the SWC and the APS don't go into other countries E-BAY listings out of considerations and courtesy to the home countries philatelic organizations and maybe E-bay will set up home country SWC ......paul
Posted by billsey   ( 847 ) on Jun-10-07 at 17:00:25 PDT   Listings
Roly, I had the good ofrtune to look through a pile of about 200 Penny Universals today. The owner said I could fill my want list if I returned the remainder sorted correctly. :-) I've got nine of the eleven basic varieties (guess which two I'm missing), and at least some perf varieties as well (noticed at least one compound perf). There are a dozen or so I'll have to soak to remove hinge remnants or paper before I can ID them, but the rest fell right into place when I used your site as my guide.

Bob what do you want to bet that the official FDCs have the original release date, rather than the date when they finally show up in post offices?
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Jun-10-07 at 16:55:11 PDT   Listings
BARGIN OF THE DAY Here is what I picked up at the flea market today for $5.00 .Its huge and made of ivory and brass .... Better than the folding glass that sat on my desk for years.....paul
Posted by billsey   ( 847 ) on Jun-10-07 at 16:54:55 PDT   Listings
David, I think that assuming anything listed on a non-US site will be looked at by the SCW is reaching for it a bit. I also don't think it's any drain on APS manpower at all to send a report to the SCW, it's only a drain if the SCW then refers it to the APS. Remember the SCW is a group that eBay formed, and it's only there to perform triage on the reported items. I'd guess it's SCW that holds things up when certain of us make reports...
Posted by rclwa   ( 967 ) on Jun-10-07 at 16:18:10 PDT   Listings
Jaywild -- Point taken. I guess I didn't really think about it either way, but subconsciously, it was as if the tide is coming in, and somehow you can push it back, so as to delay it until later. Anyway, I could find nothing on the USPS web site, but my friendly postal clerk said they got an email saying they would not be available on the date originally published, which was to be next week, as I recall. No clue yet how long the delay will be.

Bob in WA
Posted by lou4cards   ( 420 ) on Jun-10-07 at 16:14:00 PDT   Listings
Has anyone used the live auction on e-bay? I'm thinking about trying it.. I would open a new account to do live auctions.
Lou
Posted by abt1950   ( 227 ) on Jun-10-07 at 16:07:11 PDT   Listings
Oh dear, I'd better check my albums for fake pages. Another thing to worry about.

I must also be on the list. Nothing I've reported has ever been pulled.


Anne
Posted by dbenson   ( 8301 ) on Jun-10-07 at 16:02:01 PDT   Listings
jay, I don't think it is a list, I think that the Ebay employees who receive the original queries were informed by someone to stifle as much non US queries as the SWC didn't have the manpower to handle them and it was a drain on the APS manpower and financial resources if too many non US queries were sent from Ebay to the SCW.

Billsey, as far as I know there is no reporting system direct to Ebay.UK although they do have a stamps manager but he also handles myriads of other collectable categories,

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8301 ) on Jun-10-07 at 15:44:41 PDT   Listings
billsey, as long as it can be sold in the US it can be handled by the SWC, if it gets that far after being ignored by Ebay,

David B.
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 379 ) on Jun-10-07 at 15:43:29 PDT   Listings
Oh, see how easy it is to be fooled by these good fakers, I would have sworn that was a genuine old album page !

Linda :o)
Posted by claghorn1p   ( 410 ) on Jun-10-07 at 15:38:19 PDT   Listings
if a seller marks the back of an album page as fake then does that meet the requirement that the stamp be marked?
Posted by billsey   ( 847 ) on Jun-10-07 at 15:23:32 PDT   Listings
And since neither one is listed on eBay US, the SCW will just ignore it for anyone who reports. Is there an equivalent group for eBay UK?
Posted by jaywild   ( 950 ) on Jun-10-07 at 15:16:38 PDT   Listings
David Benson… I am on the same sh*t list, anything I report goes automatically into the “ignore” file.

Jim
Posted by dbenson   ( 8301 ) on Jun-10-07 at 14:39:38 PDT   Listings
Looking for volunteers to report these monstrosities, waste of time me doing it,

http://cgi.ebay.com/Niger-Coast-GB-Lagos-Oil-Rivers-SG15-Cat-4000_W0QQitemZ150131344531QQihZ005QQcategoryZ73213QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


http://cgi.ebay.com/Niger-Coast-GB-Lagos-Oil-Rivers-SG39-Used-Unpriced_W0QQitemZ150131348835QQihZ005QQcategoryZ73213QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

David B.
Posted by 1covers   ( 1357 ) on Jun-10-07 at 12:52:30 PDT   Listings
"Reading" is one of many town names that might fit and this town from many possible states. In short, no way of knowing.
Posted by malolo   ( 841 ) on Jun-10-07 at 12:37:10 PDT   Listings
K.E. -

The Geneve “sack cancel” has a slight premium, but only to a small group of collectors. The original idea was for clerks to hand write in their sub-office designation. They can be found with letters “A”, “B”, “C”, and i beleive “D”, of which there is only one example (it’s from the city hall sub-office). If you ever find a cancel with the letters make sure you make the information prominent in your description. These willall come from the early yeas in the 1870’s. It was too cumbersome, so never followed through.

The razor cancel was used frequently during the 1908 period, but nice to keep. Hard to say if anyone is interested, but make mention it was the Zurich Fahrpost, which handled money.

Bob in WA -
This is the time to use a snipe service, since you can’t be online whenthe auctions close. Just trying to help, not start another big discussion.


Paolo - The postage due were printed on the same sheets. The printer set up the cliches incorrectly, inverting some of them, then printed the frames. The numerals were all printed correctly, thus their is a percentage of every issue which has inverted frames which varies with each printing. Apparently the printers didn’t notice, or didn’t care! But this make for some rarities.

Roger
Posted by keleofa   ( 3464 ) on Jun-10-07 at 12:35:39 PDT   Listings
Anne & Greenwave,

re: French Morocco Post Office name

I think it is Mequinez, which is the Spanish name for the Arabic 'Miknasa' which is now Meknes.

Thanks! Good work!

Matt in Arizona
Posted by vinnysf   ( 481 ) on Jun-10-07 at 12:23:21 PDT   Listings
hi, can anyone tell where this cancel is from? i've been trying to figure it out
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 77 ) on Jun-10-07 at 12:13:14 PDT   Listings
forget the Fez:-)
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 77 ) on Jun-10-07 at 12:10:11 PDT   Listings
Try Fez Mequinez?
Posted by keleofa   ( 3464 ) on Jun-10-07 at 11:48:22 PDT   Listings
Anne,

re: French Morocco Post Office name

Thanks... Maybe, it's closer than anything I came up with, but The Stamp Atlas doesn't identify Mequinnez as having a French PO. There could be a Z at the end, which I took to be Commerce's leg.

Matt in Arizona
Posted by abt1950   ( 227 ) on Jun-10-07 at 11:36:21 PDT   Listings
Matt: Mequinnez??? AKA Meknes. Courtesy of The Stamp Atlas.

Anne
Posted by abt1950   ( 227 ) on Jun-10-07 at 11:30:21 PDT   Listings
from a sunny NJ.


jaywild: Thanks for pointing out that lot. The seller really did get it wrong. Not only are they not listed under the right country, but they're not Zeps! The set was issued in 1933 for the International Aviation Congress in Cairo, as indicated by the special cance. The high value pictures a zep, but that's about it.

Mitch: Thanks for your sympathy on Rudy's death a few days back. You've had your own dog tragedies too.


APS elections: Interesting outcome. Personally, it's disappointing that Dan Walker's smear tactics worked. It would be interesting to do a demographic study of the voting patterns of various segments of APS--I wonder if computer literacy and/or hanging out in online forums made any difference in voting patterns and in which direction. BTW, I'm not just talking about the VSC but other online forums as well.

Anne
Posted by keleofa   ( 3464 ) on Jun-10-07 at 11:19:49 PDT   Listings
French Morocco Post Office name...

French Morocco

I need help identifying this town in French Morocco. I believe I can read "MEOUINE" (maybe MEQUINE?). Can't tell if there are letters prior to the first M. I've been doing Google searches in French and English without success. Anyone?

T I A

Matt in Arizona
Posted by keleofa   ( 3464 ) on Jun-10-07 at 09:43:20 PDT   Listings
Nomad,

Excellent! re: Bomar. Details?

Matt in Arizona
Posted by nomad55   ( 896 ) on Jun-10-07 at 09:37:08 PDT   Listings
What Matt said is basically true, but....
A bidder who I know personally had bid on a forged cancel on cover. I emailed him not using the ebay system, and he retracted.

For those who may be interested:
Bill Bomar's Third Editon of expo post marks and postal history is completed on CD, with color photos.
Posted by keleofa   ( 3464 ) on Jun-10-07 at 09:26:54 PDT   Listings
George: You cannot contact bidders, that is auction interference. You need to contact eBay directly, who may or may not take action.

Iomoon: The Guyana stamp is from 1983, a reproduction in commemorative form of the original.

Matt in Arizona
Posted by george(950)   ( 707 ) on Jun-10-07 at 09:16:14 PDT   Listings
Recently I realized that some used stamps of Cyprus offered for sale at ebay have forged overprinds and/or forged postmarks. Does anyone know how to communicate with the highest bidder to give a warning?
George
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Posted by iomoon   ( 1051 ) on Jun-10-07 at 08:56:23 PDT   Listings
The A03 cancel may add significantly to value.
I don't have catalog to look.
Posted by larsa1978   ( 0 ) on Jun-10-07 at 07:58:08 PDT   Listings
Matt,

Thanks for your information.

Larsa
Posted by keleofa   ( 3464 ) on Jun-10-07 at 07:43:43 PDT   Listings
Larsa,

You have Scott Catalog # 706, Guyana, issue of 1983. It has a minimum value and is quite common. This year the minimum value is 20c.

Matt in Arizona
Posted by larsa1978   ( 0 ) on Jun-10-07 at 07:38:13 PDT   Listings
I came across a stamp from guyana with a picture of the british one penny(brown) stamp on it. It says "1st april 1858" and "Guyana" in blue letters and has an A03 (cancelled-to-order) sign on it.

Is there anybody who has some more information on this stamp?

Any help would be appreciated.
Posted by larsa1978   ( 0 ) on Jun-10-07 at 07:33:02 PDT   Listings
Hi all
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 77 ) on Jun-10-07 at 06:26:28 PDT   Listings
Alec Yes it is, that one is a very common fiscal found on the £1 value you see many on eBay with sellers trying to pass them off as postal use.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Jun-10-07 at 06:24:33 PDT   Listings
PETER Your best bet for advice on searchs would be to ask Jim or Roger ,those two use it all the time AFAIK.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1051 ) on Jun-10-07 at 06:20:54 PDT   Listings
Peter

Mine are easy, "volc*" and "vulk*" at the primary level.
Posted by infla-alec   ( 541 ) on Jun-10-07 at 06:19:41 PDT   Listings
Rich The German Colonies should be listed somewhere in Scott but to be honest I don't know where exactly. Though someone should be able to help you out there late on once they read your post.
ebay.de listings for German Colonies as you can see should allow you to try and see if you have anything similar.
As Paul rightly stated there could be rare cancels in amongst what you have but those are usually only sought after on piece or on cover. To know what cancels are rare you need the Deutsche Kolonien Stempelkatalog. It is in German but for anyone seriously interested in Colonies cancels it is very easy to understand with clear illustrations.
The other stamps you mentioned are what is known as Plebiscite area stamps. Again mint most have very little value.

Peter I assume this BZA £1 then is with revenue cancel ?
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 77 ) on Jun-10-07 at 05:54:45 PDT   Listings
Paul Time is valuable that's why I try and optimise my searches as much as possible. Worth showing an example of my search for BCA and Nyasaland it might help some viewers:-
(nyasaland,nyassaland,BCA,British Central Africa,BZA) -CD - rhodesia.
This covers for a common misspelling but it is also the way it is spelt in German I believe as is the BZA. The -CD clears out all the crap from people trying to list catalogues on CD and the Rhodesia takes out the many items for Rhodesia and Nyasaland. I also exclude some scammy sellers but that's another story. This type of search does have its flaws though if a seller puts in words such as "see my nice items for rhodesia for sale", on say a BCA item. Welcome any advice on improving this.
Peter who has too much time on his hands to search:-)
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Jun-10-07 at 05:51:48 PDT   Listings
RICHARD ----Some of the high values of the German territories can get pricey,but the low values are packet material. But some of the cheaper ones could have rare cancels .Also would have to see if they are postaly used or C.T.O 's .....paul
Posted by iomoon   ( 1051 ) on Jun-10-07 at 05:48:39 PDT   Listings
Good day all.

D2

Don't know for sure, but I have noticed a recent upswing in the prices for British Offices.
Posted by richintalent   ( 128 ) on Jun-10-07 at 05:15:06 PDT   Listings
In a box of philatelic material won in eBay I came across an old stockbook with German stamps from the 20s and 30s [pre-Hitler]; some were overprionted 'China' and 'Morokko'- When did Germany have offices in China or Morocco? Also there is a German territoty stamp for a place called 'Kiautschou' which I am assuming is in China somewhere. Also included in this box were German stamps overprinted "Traite de Versailles - Allenstein" and 'Plebiscite Slesvig'. I don't have a Scott's Cataqlog handy; any ideas as to worth? some are used and all the Allenstein ones appear to be mint. Am I sitting on a gold mine?

Rich K.
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3657 ) on Jun-10-07 at 05:13:02 PDT   Listings

David B. Don't have a clue, but congratulations!

Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3657 ) on Jun-10-07 at 05:09:56 PDT   Listings

Jay-JimI totally mised the aswome. Grin.

I find the red devil more of a minor irritaiton than any intent to deceive. It is like egocentric sellers who insist on using their logo in a gallery image, or eBay ID in the item description.

Bridge alert from the same red devil.

David B. I too found the sharing/discussion of your find truly interesting.

As to the recent APS muck, I think it but a tempest in a teapot, soon forgotten by most, and a perpetual burr under a blanket to a few who have to be ranting about something.

Morning to all,

Jeff

Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Jun-10-07 at 04:42:52 PDT   Listings
JIM L. ------Hope you still remember my remarke about the start of another philatelic group starting up after this little blow-up in the national organization .Thats my prediction ......paul
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Jun-10-07 at 04:37:22 PDT   Listings
PETER Sounds like you made some nice finds and know the subject of your area of interest.

TIME and KNOWNLEDGETo find some of the interesting and rare item that are discussed here .It takes time to search ,which many people don't have because of business and family and other things like church or other projects .Most of us are taking our free time from the hobby and use it up just for searching E-BAY.Some how that is not profitable to me its easier to just buy the item and say I got it and spent my free time on other things .

Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1348 ) on Jun-10-07 at 04:03:57 PDT   Listings
Greetings

and an Indiana "Good Morning"

to you all


paperhistory
Thanks for sharing the results on the APS elections.

avid B.
There’s several reasons some don’t read VSC. It varies for each individual. For me two of the factors are that the discussion is generally about material that is well out of my areas of interest or budget and the other is the controlling hand of one of the APS candidates.

Personally I feel that the APS vote represents a reaction against misrepresentations made in the past by two of the candidates. That and other signs of their character are the reasons for my being grateful the vote went the way it went. The Indiana Stamp Club had one of our board members on the APS board for a while and we did get an inside view of what was happening. Their evaluations influenced me. The facts they shared disappointed me. FWIW, if it had gone the other way when it came time to renew membership I’d have resigned.

Jim L.

member
Posted by dove3ducks   ( 469 ) on Jun-10-07 at 03:08:24 PDT   Listings
Morning Folks.......
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 77 ) on Jun-10-07 at 02:24:52 PDT   Listings
Paul I couldn't agree more with you about your eBay comments. There are many good finds to be had out there but it does require a lot of searching, knowledege of what you see, and a large element of luck! In my case in the past year I consider myself lucky to have picked up 2 SG54 provisonals from BCA, the only ones I have seen on Ebay in the past 5 years. The first was on cover in a normal auction and went for 250 pounds with a cert, against a CV of 1600 reasonable price, the second was from Anglo American again properly described and identified but the lister gave it the wrong CV of 110 pounds and put it up opening at $75 with a buy it now of $95. My luck was that it had only been listed for 45 minutes when I saw it.
My second piece of luck was with a set of fresh mint high value EDV11 Nyasaland which had a CV of 900 pounds and I had been outbid 10 days before at 200 pounds. The sale must have fallen through and the seller relisted but for some reason put a starting of 70 pounds and a buy it now of 90 pounds. I guess he meant to put 190, again it had only been listed for less than 2 hours when I saw it.
So if you have the time run your searches several times a day, with the search set to newly listed.
D2 Many congratulations as well. I confess I had the item on my watch list and had a feeling about it but nowhere near enough knowledge. How about getting some of your Niger collection onto your website?
cheers
Peter
Posted by dbenson   ( 8301 ) on Jun-10-07 at 01:11:10 PDT   Listings
Alec,

correct, no one should feel ashamed to ask a question,

I'll ask one,

why,

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=006&sspagename=STRK%3AMESO%3AIT&viewitem=&item=160123815781&rd=1&rd=1

David B.
Posted by xzephyr   ( 981 ) on Jun-10-07 at 00:32:49 PDT   Listings
Linda

AMEN to that!

Colin (who is using up lots of GB, especially Machins, for postage)

Posted by infla-alec   ( 541 ) on Jun-10-07 at 00:14:01 PDT   Listings
IO/Jim I see nothing wrong in asking questions here on things that you either don't understand or wish to know more about.
David's Niger find is one example where something has been shown here and I dare say most will have had no idea as to why it is such a rare item.
I am sure there have been other instances here when items have been shown and people have had questions about it and yet not posted the question. Why not I wonder ? A fear of appearing to ask a dumn question ? There are no stupid questions if you don't know the answer.
I would urge anyone out there with questions on anything shown here to simply ask whatever it is you wish to know. I'm pretty certain in most cases the answer can be given. Even if a reply does not explain things exactly then have no fear about asking another question. Too often in the philatelic world things get explained using terms we assume everyone understands and that simply isn't the case.
Posted by jaywild   ( 950 ) on Jun-09-07 at 22:23:02 PDT   Listings
Anne… Don’t know if this is the sort of lot that interests you, but you’d never find it, even though the seller helpfully listed it in two categories—on the unhelpful side they were US and Germany.



Jim
Posted by jaywild   ( 950 ) on Jun-09-07 at 21:09:30 PDT   Listings
Bill S… Thanks. This is what that auction looks like in the lists. One would naturally assume that red devil cancel would be included, yes? That’s exactly what the seller is counting on.

Jim
Posted by billsey   ( 847 ) on Jun-09-07 at 20:35:18 PDT   Listings
Jim, you can use the SCW link to directly report listing violations.
Posted by jaywild   ( 950 ) on Jun-09-07 at 20:11:58 PDT   Listings
Jeff S… You forgot to mention that the seller claims they are ASWOME!

Jim
Posted by jaywild   ( 950 ) on Jun-09-07 at 20:03:50 PDT   Listings
NOIP… Where does one go to report listing violations? Not the “automated” b*llsh*t form which doesn’t allow you to explain what is wrong with the auction.

This lot doesn’t contain the red skull and crossbones that the auction image illustrates. This scumbag does this will all their “fancy cancel” lots—show an impossibly scarce cancel to lure people in, then down in the lot description let on that the scarce cancel is not part of the lot.

That user ID is familiar—didn’t this person used to hang out on the chatboard?

Jim
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3657 ) on Jun-09-07 at 19:39:13 PDT   Listings

perfrins?

AND... there are 49 index cards with a perfrin on it and information as to what the perfrin stands for.

amazing

Posted by dbenson   ( 8301 ) on Jun-09-07 at 19:21:45 PDT   Listings
Paul & IO,

and with the way that Ebay has it now set up no one cab be sure whether the item can be viewed by all of the potential bidders,

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8301 ) on Jun-09-07 at 19:11:55 PDT   Listings
IO,

there were two distinct areas, firstly the area under the jurisdiction of the Royal Niger Company which was inland and which later became Northern Nigeria when it was transferred to the Crown in 1900 and the Oil Rivers Protectorate which was formed in 1885 which later became Niger Coast Protectorate and was along the southern coast of Nigeria which was under the control of the British Government. This area later became Southern Nigeria in 1900 and also absorbed Lagos which was a separate colony.

The Royal Niger Company opened Post Offices at it's offices in Abutshi, Akassa, Burutu & Lokoja and at first mail was sent without stamps with the Company's handstamps and later British stamps were supplied to the various offices. Not all values were supplied, only 1/2d., 1d. 2 1/2d., 5d., 10d., 1s. & 2s.6, all other values were not sold by the PO's but could have been procured on board ships or by travellers. Normal usage from the main offices Akasssa, Burutu & Lokoja are not scarce although covers are keenly sought after especially if rarer markings or the values not sold locally. Virtually all of the correspondence known is Royal Niger Company internal mail, French Missionary correspondence & letetres from Militay personnel in the various campaigns which occurred during the period.

The Oil Riveres Protectorate never had any Post Offices until late 1891 and Post Offices were opened in the consular offices in Benin River, Bonny River, Brass River, Forcados River, Old Calabar River & Opobo River and some GB stamps would have been supplied from stocks in the Niger Territories but no one knows how many and which values. As far as I know there are only 3 covers known from that period, two in one collection in UK and another in another collection in UK, none have been sold in the last 50 years. It is not known how much mail was sent through these offices but it would have been very little as there were no traders in the area at that time, no philatelic mail and no missionaries.

David B.
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