eBay chatboard archive: Aug-06-07 to Aug-12-07 week

Posted by mini*lindy   ( 442 ) on Aug-12-07 at 23:47:03 PDT   Listings
sure TIKTOK. Just post a LINK to a scan of the stamps and we will assist you.
Posted by tiktoktami   ( 0 ) on Aug-12-07 at 21:54:20 PDT   Listings
please help me identify these stamps
Posted by jaywild   ( 965 ) on Aug-12-07 at 21:25:20 PDT   Listings
Ted L… Hey!!! My family owns that bridge, my grandfather bought it first thing off the boat in 1913!

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Lindy... Actually I figured it out on my own. The first results returned were the most expensive items in the gallery listings. The regular listings started further down the page, and it was there I found the lot.

To me “gallery” listings are a total waste of time. I always skip past them without a glance, because it’s always the same old crap from the same old shyster sellers using the same old tired pitches—Amazing! Rare! Untouched!! Hoard!!!!!

Jim
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 442 ) on Aug-12-07 at 21:06:48 PDT   Listings
JayJimprob. didn't show up for you as seller is in Australia and you would have to check WORLDWIDE box.
Looks like a hijacked account to me, seller used to sell Sea Shells (by the Sea Shore in Adelaide, SthAustralia!), With no activity on the account for 7 months!

Linda
Posted by tlawrencestamps   ( 1451 ) on Aug-12-07 at 19:34:13 PDT   Listings
Jaywild & antonius-ra: Thanks for you input.

I wonder if the seller may be serious about their belief that those are great rarities? Sure are some interesting things to see on e-bay.

Now if I could only find a buyer for my bridge that I own in Brooklyn....... Ted.
Posted by jaywild   ( 965 ) on Aug-12-07 at 19:26:00 PDT   Listings
iomoon… Funny, it didn’t show up when I ranked the auctions by most expensive.

I’d say let the lot run. If anyone is dumb enough to buy those stamps, given the crummy feedback score of the seller (7 negs with less than 250 overall) I find it hard to scare up any sympathy.

Jim
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 641 ) on Aug-12-07 at 18:41:57 PDT   Listings
rbstudio Welcome to the stamp board. There are many people here that would be glad to help you learn about the hobby. Just ask away!
Posted by iomoon   ( 1054 ) on Aug-12-07 at 18:39:10 PDT   Listings
Jim

This one
Posted by rbstudio121   ( 0 )   on Aug-12-07 at 18:01:41 PDT   Listings
Hi. New to stamp game, but hope will be a fast learner.
Hey-- speaking of Gunga Din, if you've never seen the Peter Sellers take-off on this subject (See "The Party"), this is a must-see. Very hysterical.
Posted by jaywild   ( 965 ) on Aug-12-07 at 17:49:09 PDT   Listings
Ted L… I can’t find that auction you referred to. Was it pulled already?

Jim
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 641 ) on Aug-12-07 at 17:22:26 PDT   Listings
Paul Go for it! Hopefully you can "acculate" it, in
a meaningful way. You should know if you're always pissing into the fan, it comes back on you.

Been working on cars with 100 degree temp and a heat index of 111 all day, time to jump in the pool.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Aug-12-07 at 16:33:58 PDT   Listings
NOIP------Had a good day working in this 90 degree heat,guys are burned out too many hot days to be working 7 days a week ,but now have to sit down and write up invoices ,lots of invoices for the past few days .

Would like to respond to all those friendly poster who have been peeing in my direction but to busy right now ...later ....paul

Posted by antonius-ra   ( 641 ) on Aug-12-07 at 16:33:22 PDT   Listings
Ted The answer is yes. Only problem is that there is no category (in reporting) for "stupid obvious rip-offs".

220man There is no finer movie than Das Boot!
Ken I did actually mention Dr. Strangelove in my top favs. It was incredibly poignant when it came out, while being quite humorous. Kubrik was genius! Although the only movie I think was more boring than 2001 was Barry Lyndon.
Posted by tlawrencestamps   ( 1451 ) on Aug-12-07 at 16:03:48 PDT   Listings
Question for everyone on this board: Someone has listed 3 common US Stamps as being the "rarest US Stamps you will ever find" and has listed them for 300,000 USD ! Should this kind of listing be reported to APS watch group, or can someone list something like this,and it is Caveat Emptor?

I will not mention the seller ,but just go to US stamps category, and look under highest first, and it will be the first one listed. Thanks, Ted.
Posted by 220man   ( 155 ) on Aug-12-07 at 15:03:05 PDT   Listings
"Das Boot" is a fav.
Posted by lluehhhb   ( 290 ) on Aug-12-07 at 14:39:32 PDT   Listings
infla-alec
Do you know a book for Germany 1933 rates? I searched online but found nothing, just one for the 1906-1923 period.
Posted by tlawrencestamps   ( 1451 ) on Aug-12-07 at 14:23:12 PDT   Listings
Kchrist: A Night to Remember is my fav. Titanic movie. Shot in B&W, without the hi-tech special effects of the later films, still I think is the most accurate and most realistic of the Titanic Film's. The British are best at making those type of documentary/fiction film's.

Does anyone know if the UK ever issued a stamp to Commemorate the Titanic disaster? Not that they would want to brag about it but I would think they would want to honour, both the dead, and the survivors.Ted.
Posted by kchrist499   ( 1150 ) on Aug-12-07 at 14:04:05 PDT   Listings
I realize that I am late in joining the "Favorite Movies" conversation, but I could not help but notice that two of my all time favorites weren't mentioned: Dr. Strangelove, and A Thousand Clowns".

Also, some of you oldtimers might remember "A Night to Remember", and Ghunga Din, both with Cary Grant. And who can forget to mention Public Enemy #1 with Cagney?

I guess I'm showing my age, but these have stayed with me all these years.

Ken C.

Posted by jaywild   ( 965 ) on Aug-12-07 at 13:58:42 PDT   Listings
infla-alec… Thanks for the information on the changeover from the old worthless marks to the new currency. I was unaware that the old stamps were valid for any period of time. Also, that official cover—is it possible those stamps were precanceled? I know in some US post offices in the middle of the 20th Century clerks used to precancel mint sheets of postage due and other stamps with a roller cancel, and thus when applied to a cover or parcel they were never “tied”.

By the way, I want you all to know that I am the lucky person that will take possession of all of Mikhail Khordorkovsky’s fortune, the guy who founded the Russian YUKOS oil company and who has been languishing in a Russki jail for several years now. I was just informed by email today. All I have to do is fly to Brussells Belgium and sign a few papers…

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Jim
Posted by postalviews   ( 4197 ) on Aug-12-07 at 13:02:40 PDT   Listings
Alec I agree that covers with stamp(s) missing can be highly desirable as I have sold several over the years from time to time due to the cover bearing a rare postal marking or some other feature, such as a good postcard image on the obverse or some rare stamp still being tied on the cover. And the INFLA cover could very well be real, but the message here is that there are a whole lot of peripheral things to consider with any difficult-to-attribute postal history item. Best of success to you on this one, I hope it turns out OK for your collection's sake.
Posted by postalviews   ( 4197 ) on Aug-12-07 at 12:56:24 PDT   Listings
I do not see any roller cancel on any part of that INFLA cover. Aside from the magic marker, they are all circular date or box date handstamps.
Posted by postalviews   ( 4197 ) on Aug-12-07 at 12:53:57 PDT   Listings
It takes many decades and hundreds of disappointments in sales of borderline and esoteric material to amass this kind of general knowledge about postal operations the world over.
Posted by postalviews   ( 4197 ) on Aug-12-07 at 12:51:48 PDT   Listings
While that INFLA cover may be authentic, I have a hard time believing that a German postal worker would fail to hammer all or at least some of those stamps with a CDS in favor of magic marker, especially as such would have been against their own postal regulations. As well, they normally used violet pencils to make 'pen cancels' and other manuscript-style markings on covers of any type, such as weight in grams, etc.
Posted by postalviews   ( 4197 ) on Aug-12-07 at 12:47:07 PDT   Listings
which is abbreviated in the rubber receiving handstamp.
Posted by postalviews   ( 4197 ) on Aug-12-07 at 12:45:14 PDT   Listings
Alec On that German inflationary official cover, the cancel which was on the now-missing stamp is the required receiving mark from the destination Lichtenberg,
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 641 ) on Aug-12-07 at 11:54:55 PDT   Listings
Re: Tannu Tuva. I just realized that Scott has finally listed the later issues in my 2005 classic specialized catalog. They use to only recognize the pre 1934 issues.
I was also suprised to see that the later issues had pretty good values attached to them. There are also several stamps listed that I have never seen before from 1938-1943 (quite pricey). I guess it is back to the drawing board with that collection. I thought I was only missing a few of the earlier overprinted items. Wish I could figure out which of my 110 albums I put those few pages in, they seem to be lost in action at present.


The blanket statement that "true unpicked lots don't exist any more" is completely wrong, although it maybe true for 80%. Most collections come from people who are deceased and left to heirs. The heirs will usually either find a stamp dealer who will often offer them pennies on the dollar and then cherrie pick the collection. They might even run them on Ebay and not knowing what is good or not, leave them intact. The third option is of course the auction house. Most auction houses will discuss how to best realize the highest dollar gain and this often means picking out the better items to run in seperate lots. However some auction houses or the seller themselves will decide to keep the collection intact. It should be the sellers call and many would prefer that their relatives collection should remain intact.

Regarding that Tannu Tuva lot that has been discussed. My first impression is that it would go for around $53.00

The World of Stamps
Posted by sayasan   ( 713 ) on Aug-12-07 at 11:12:17 PDT   Listings
Tannu Tuva - If anyone's still interested, I recommend the Tuva Society's website - http://www.tuva.tk/

In particular the section on rehabilitating the stamps of 1934 to 1936. Paul is quite wrong. This was not a fantasy entity, and there is evidence of genuine usage.

Richard W.

Posted by sayasan   ( 713 ) on Aug-12-07 at 11:04:22 PDT   Listings
alec - That makes sense. Thanks! Interesting cover!
Posted by tlawrencestamps   ( 1451 ) on Aug-12-07 at 10:24:15 PDT   Listings
1covers: Even though you and I have never had any business transactions together, I have viewed your lots, both current & past, including the great Denmark Collection.

If all e-bay stamp sellers & the even non-ebay sellers were all, as knowledgeable & ethical as you are,we wouldn't have to spend so much time on here complaining & debating about those who do not share those same 2 qualities with you. Ted.
Posted by tlawrencestamps   ( 1451 ) on Aug-12-07 at 10:14:20 PDT   Listings
Re:Picked Over,Salted &Put Together Lots.

I have no problem with the above lots. I put-together and make up lots for my e-bay auctions all of the time.

Here is my problem: People who list the above type lots and list them as "intact" or "as they come from an old collection found in a barn in New Hampshire" etc. etc.Baloney!

I also see many lots described as a "collection",but upon viewing the "collection", it is obvious to me that the best items have been removed. I have always listed such lots as a "collection remnant"
This is the way most reputable Auction Houses list this type of lot. You will often find a group like this described something like this: "very nice US collection remnant, still many nice items remaining,....."

I feel the same way about listing items with condition problems. I often list items with various degrees of fault's,but I list them, as such. Nothing wrong with that except when someone lists the faulty items as sound.

I believe that this is analagous to over stating the originality & degree of intactness of a lot.Ted
Posted by infla-alec   ( 561 ) on Aug-12-07 at 10:04:14 PDT   Listings
Richard Looking at the scan again I take back my statement about a missing stamp. The cover is almost certainly a reused one. I apologize for not looking at that part of the cover close enough. I say reused because the cancel where a stamp looks to be missing is definately not a Charlottenburg cancel. The reuse of postal envelopes at this time was not uncommon. Lichtenburg and Charlottenburg though are both districts within Berlin.
Posted by infla-alec   ( 561 ) on Aug-12-07 at 09:39:38 PDT   Listings
Postalviews Your concerns are exactly what a non specialist should be worried about. It is only through many years of amassing knowledge you get to know what in some instances is in fact genuine.

I agree a stamp has fallen off or been removed at some point. Nonetheless still a very rare multiple franking. The roller cancel is very typical for such covers with mass frankings. It isn't obviously ideal from a collectors point of view but for a postal period rates collector such things are accepted for that area.
One reason why Dienst (official stamp) covers are often found more than any other with such mass frankings is because official departments had to account for every single pfennig. They did not have the option of returning unused stocks of stamps. Yes even when the rates were calculated in the millions of Marks every stamp had to be used if at all possible. The exception would have been when any stocks held became invalid for postage.
Posted by sayasan   ( 713 ) on Aug-12-07 at 09:28:58 PDT   Listings
And the cancel on the stamp that is now missing passes UNDER the wadge of stamps on top. Unless the envelope was re-used? Alec?
Posted by postalviews   ( 4197 ) on Aug-12-07 at 09:18:32 PDT   Listings
I have serious doubts about that carpet tile inflation cover for two reasons: 1. None of the stamps are tied by a cancel. 2. The cancel at right on the label was on top of a tied stamp that is now missing.

But like so many things in philately, if so-and-so says so, then it must be so.
Posted by infla-alec   ( 561 ) on Aug-12-07 at 08:57:59 PDT   Listings
Knud-Erik Yes I did think of you when I saw the Dienst cover. Yes I could have tried to buy the cover at a price I'm sure the seller would have been happy with as he was using the basic Michel to get a value. But I could never bring myself to stoop so low. I have even spoken today to one of the Infla expertizers and he agrees with me it is indeed genuine and extremely scarce. How rare though he would not say until such time as he has examined the item in person.

Jaywild/Jim Yes you are correct from 1 December 1923 the new inflation currency was in place. However during December the older stamps could be used up at a fixed exchange rate of 10 Milliarden Marks = 1 Rentenpfennig. The older stamps were of course no longer officially sold at post offices after 1 Dec 23. Use of the older stamps is known to have taken place as late as April 1924. Those though are very rare indeed.
Worth noting that during December it is also possible to find covers with mixed frankings of the old and new currency. Again those are very desirable by collectors. Often overlooked or underpriced as many don't understand how to calculate if the postage rate is correct on dual currency covers.
In fact you'd be surprised how many people including dealers don't know how to calculate the many different Inflation rates from Aug - Dec 1923. The easiest way is to break the rate down into parts. eg printed matter, postcard , letter, special services, C.O.D. etc and then see what it should add up to. Even valued letters are quite easy to calculate once you know how. Though I must admit the way Michel show it in the limited rates table is confusing.
Posted by dcderoo   ( 1679 ) on Aug-12-07 at 08:50:46 PDT   Listings
Oops!
Unless they moved, I got the "Caribbean Islands" part wrong.
Gibraltar (continental drift?)
Anyway, here it is:

http://cgi.ebay.com/GIBRALTAR-5-POUNDS-TUPPENNY-BLUE-TITANIUM-2000-CASE-COA_W0QQitemZ220138730830QQihZ012QQcategoryZ4941QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Posted by dcderoo   ( 1679 ) on Aug-12-07 at 08:45:45 PDT   Listings
NOIP: There are lots of stamps with images of coins on them.
I got curious about coins with images of stamps.

Well, I only found one legal tender item and it was more a bullion coin than a business strike.
Off-the-wall metal as far as coins go; titanium I think.
And from one of those Caribbean Islands that issues anything and everything.

Posted by dcderoo   ( 1679 ) on Aug-12-07 at 08:39:29 PDT   Listings
jaywild, thanks for the sanity check.
So it appears to be just over-inked or printed with higher pressure.

I'm doing an inventory with image, at least of the better stuff.
Scans at 600dpi are showing me many things that cause me to pause.

Posted by djs127   ( 595 ) on Aug-12-07 at 08:25:42 PDT   Listings
Spent a few hours Saturday afternoon putting in some of the scott brown reproduction pages I won last week on Ebay into my scott internationals - need to win a few more sets to make up from 1840-1940 complete with brown pages. Today put in a used hard drive (which I bought on Ebay) into my daugther's old laptop and now installing drivers so I can get it to connect to the internet again.
David Snyder
Posted by jaywild   ( 965 ) on Aug-12-07 at 08:19:19 PDT   Listings
dcderoo… Here’s an even more exacting comparison. Your overprint matches the genuine in all the details.

Jim
Posted by jaywild   ( 965 ) on Aug-12-07 at 08:10:50 PDT   Listings
dcderoo… Here is an illustration from Scott of a PHILIPPINES overprint. Yours looks different only in that it is impressed much more deeply into the paper. I would say it is likely genuine. Compare the “S”, which has a very distinct pair of serifs.

The bad ones are also at the wrong angle, and yours is at the correct angle.

Jim
Posted by jaywild   ( 965 ) on Aug-12-07 at 08:03:14 PDT   Listings
infla-alec… I noticed the date on the official cover you linked to—December 9, 1923. Wasn’t the currency revalued effective December 1 that year? I’m confused!!

prochute... It is my understanding as well that Manning is one of the “smoke ’n’ mirrors” guys. Perhaps the distinction is lost on those who buy stamps by the ton.

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Just kidding…

JimJim
Posted by prochute   ( 67 ) on Aug-12-07 at 07:37:00 PDT   Listings
stamps12345 Funny, but when I lived in New Jersey and would oft attend MANNING auctionae, it seemed ALL of his lots were well picked over, salted to death, or highly manufactured with much UNRELATED material and yet you always tout him.!?!?!? I found that place to be a waste of time.

Auction houses exist to turn a profit and will do all of the above, when necessary, to turn a buck...

I see many original and intact collections at certain establishments but that is not the norm by any means.

Riff Lornton
Posted by knuden   ( 2304 ) on Aug-12-07 at 07:17:35 PDT   Listings
Alec - Hmmm. That official infla cover should be sitting in my official infla cover collection but I'm afraid I would not be able to afford it. :O) I will be happy to have a cover with only one stamp of these. :O)

K.E  I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!


Posted by dcderoo   ( 1679 ) on Aug-12-07 at 06:21:35 PDT   Listings
Does the overprint on this stamp look legit?

US Admin of the Philippines

The odd part if it weren't legit is that the unoverprinted stamp is worth more!!!

Posted by infla-alec   ( 561 ) on Aug-12-07 at 04:16:07 PDT   Listings
The next international level exhibition in Germany will be in Essen 2009. More commonly known as IBRA 2009. Applications are now being taken for exhibition places. I am applying to exhibit and fingers crossed I will be accepted. But wether I am exhibiting or not it is an event I would highly recommend to anyone who wants to see a 1st class exhibition.
For anyone wishing to exhibit please make sure you read and understand the rules and perhaps most importantly the size of the frames layout. Germany still uses the old 12 sheet frames system. (4 x 3) Though entries are allocated the same number of 12 sheet frames as if they were showing using 16 sheet frames.(4 x 4) But do be aware this can cause problems with how the actual display is seen.
For example using a 16 sheet frame display ones try to have the middle block of four sheets as being the most attractive or eye catching part of the frame. With a 12 sheet frame you can't do this. In theory it shouldn't make any difference to the Jurors points awarded but I can't help but feel it does.
I don't see any Commissioners appointed from outside Europe but that doesn't mean entries are restricted to European residents.
Anyway if anyone from the board does fancy making the trip let me know and I'll see what I can do to arrange a meeting point and of course if help is needed with Hotels etc I can try to sort that out for you.
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1381 ) on Aug-12-07 at 03:48:51 PDT   Listings
Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all

Jim L.
member
Posted by dbenson   ( 8464 ) on Aug-12-07 at 03:21:48 PDT   Listings
sheryll, I didn't know Geoff was going, it may have been a last minute decision,

Enjoy yourself in front of the frames, it's always interesting to hear comments from the judges,

David Benson
Posted by knuden   ( 2304 ) on Aug-12-07 at 02:51:55 PDT   Listings
I have recieved this wrapper.
It's a registered 8th weightclass sent to Germany 1906. It consist of 3 different wrappers glued together and uprated. It looks philatelic but as there is only around 30 registered wrappers known, one can't be too picky. :O) (PS. I got it cheap.) :O)

K.E  I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!


Posted by knuden   ( 2304 ) on Aug-12-07 at 02:27:55 PDT   Listings
Sherryl & Roger - Congratulation with your GOLD medal. Well done!
Billsey - Congratulation with your medal too (I haven't seen what grade it is.) :O) Well done! :O)

Now I start wonder how many of the member of the board, who have won a gold medal at national or international level?

K.E  I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!


Posted by sheryll*net   ( 91 ) on Aug-12-07 at 01:37:26 PDT   Listings
Hi all! Many thanks for the congratulations! After a busy but enjoyable day at dealers, meetings and critiques (what a different system to the Aussie style!), Roger, Billsey and I attended the awards dinner.

D1 and D2 - I was surprised and pleased to meet up with Geoff L, who came over for the show. He picked up a gold at the awards dinner, and won the Postal History Society Posthorn Medal (which sounds much more impressive than it looks!). John D won gold too, as well as the AAPE Novice award. ??

Other results were Arthur - Vermeil and AAPE Gold Award of Honor, Jan G - Silver, Glen S - Silver. Tomorrow I meet up with Ross W as first responder in front of the frames.

S2
Posted by bjornmu   ( 939 ) on Aug-12-07 at 00:22:25 PDT   Listings
Richard F, the buyer of that great Denmark collection IS a stamp dealer/auction house. Never dealt with them on eBay but I recognise the name, used to get their auction catalogues back in the early 90's.
Posted by infla-alec   ( 561 ) on Aug-11-07 at 23:37:07 PDT   Listings
Sheryl & Roger Congratulations on your well deserved Gold.

Richard F Fantastic collection and well, "picked". Picked in terms of quality of course. Good price but would it not have done better being placed in one of the major Skandanavain auctions ? Especially since the $ is so weak just now.

Jaywild /Jim Yes it sure is nice to see the helpful things we collectors do come around so to speak.
Very rare though that anyone can find things for my own collection but even so I do sometimes get offered very interesting items such as this Carpet tile franking cover Official covers aren't my thing and although the condition isn't the best such a massive franking of over two complete sheets is very rare especially with the top sheet margins still attached. The basic Michel catalogue lists that with a value of around €450. But with each top marginal stamp being worth € 1400 "each" used and no prices given for being on cover you can see the value soon multiplies.
Hopefully the owner will take my advice and before selling have it sent to one of the Infla expertizers and once it has a certificate achieve a far better price than he ever imagined.
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 442 ) on Aug-11-07 at 21:32:19 PDT   Listings
Paul, you should scroll back to claghorn's post at 20:18:25 and look at and read ALL the pages in the second link to see which Tanna Tuva stamps were and were not issued IN the country. (and yes, Virginia, Tanna Tuva does exist).
An interesting read if you can be bothered to spend 10 or 15 minutes on reading and learning!

Linda
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Aug-11-07 at 19:42:56 PDT   Listings
RICHARD Would not call those pages of early Denmark "a unpicked lot" .Somebody put a lot of effort to build that collection .
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Aug-11-07 at 19:36:15 PDT   Listings
RICHARD Nice material and as you stated in the describition exhibit quality material .Its a far cry from what is found 99.9% percent of the time on E-BAY.
Posted by jaywild   ( 965 ) on Aug-11-07 at 19:28:27 PDT   Listings
Richard F… Nice realization. Congratulations! Great material. This is your personal collection, isn’t it?

Jim
Posted by dcderoo   ( 1679 ) on Aug-11-07 at 18:52:14 PDT   Listings
jaywild, yep. That's him.
Since I collect 1st, 2nd and 3rd issue revenues, his exhibit was close enough to my interests.
I really enjoy those old engraved stamps.
Posted by 1covers   ( 1367 ) on Aug-11-07 at 18:35:55 PDT   Listings
Paul - This unpicked lot did well on ebay. Good thing some people don't worry about catalog values and judge actual value using their knowledge of quality and scarcity.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Aug-11-07 at 18:15:31 PDT   Listings
TOM L. --------I like your remark about stamp lots are "picked over" "salted" or "put together" they have to be because true unpicked lots don't exist any more .We must be in the fourth or fifth generation of ownership with each previous owner taking something out like color variation,perf. variations ,watermarks and even nice cancels somewhere every lot is now recycled material no matter what country and the U.S. lots are worst because even nice centered copies have been pulled .....paul
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Aug-11-07 at 17:49:03 PDT   Listings
DRAGON------Think your right about breaking that lot down.Complete sets in general terms have been one of the strongest areas for stamp sellers on e-bay .But also with Scott listing of that country ,it will attrach those pre-1940 collectors.Think that collection will do good and excede my bid easily .The first two pages catalog around $100.00 and those registered stamps at the end are not easy to find so over all think it will go higher ,but thats my gut feel .....paul
Posted by jaywild   ( 965 ) on Aug-11-07 at 17:33:22 PDT   Listings
dcderoo… Aha—Bob Hohertz. His eBay ID is rdhinmn.

Jim
Posted by jaywild   ( 965 ) on Aug-11-07 at 17:29:59 PDT   Listings
dcderoo… Bob Hohertz, by any chance? I have forgotten his eBay ID. Maybe someone else remembers it.

Jim
Posted by dcderoo   ( 1679 ) on Aug-11-07 at 17:04:19 PDT   Listings
Anyone going to BALPEX Labor Day weekend?
The only eBay person from in here that I even met was at that show.
I can't remember his name.
He had an exhibition of revenue stamped paper.
His last name was something like Hohen(?)

Anyway, anyone going?

Posted by dragonstamps   ( 473 ) on Aug-11-07 at 16:54:15 PDT   Listings
Those stamps probably never saw the duty they were meant for. But they are popular, and always have been.
That's a decent showing, but I hope you are ready to buy them if need be Paul. I'm not saying you're wrong, but you bid pretty high on that. (it might have gotten more $ broken into 2-3 lots)
The people interested probably don't need them all.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Aug-11-07 at 16:52:55 PDT   Listings
noip----here is some info from my collection about TANNU TUVA ,Their stamps were printed and issued out of Moscow and never seen that so-call country it was a creation of the communist in Russia . INFO ON THE COUNTRY ....paul
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Aug-11-07 at 16:32:37 PDT   Listings
RICHINTALENT -----If you want that TANNU TUVA collection your got to go a lot higher than $5.00. I see you got out bid at $5.50 .There are about 125 stamps in that collection and the bidding will end up around $60.00 or higher .So just to prove my point ,Im going to throw in a bid at over fifty dollars and I know I'LL GET OUT BID ON THAT LOT .Its at $11.00 now and will dilly daliey around to the last hour but watch me get nocked out on that lot also .....paul
Posted by de66   ( 1124 ) on Aug-11-07 at 15:59:19 PDT   Listings
Sheryll & Roger


Well done on your well deserved GOLD's.


Dave

D1

Posted by philatarium   ( 235 ) on Aug-11-07 at 15:39:31 PDT   Listings
Sheryll: Thanks very much for posting the pictures of our fellow EUSC members. Please give them all our best.

And congratulations to you, Roger & Bill S. for your outstanding accomplishments! (I do hope one of you lets a certain someone know that we're all not just AM talk-radio, trailer-park philatelic trash, as was alleged a while back!)

Have a great time there! And thanks for checking in during what I'm sure is a very busy time!

-- Dave
Posted by 220man   ( 155 ) on Aug-11-07 at 08:16:23 PDT   Listings
ID theft/stamps scam: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003831638_stampscam11m.html
Posted by bjstampco   ( 574 ) on Aug-11-07 at 07:03:04 PDT   Listings
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Posted by bjstampco   ( 574 ) on Aug-11-07 at 07:01:46 PDT   Listings
Allen Park Stamp Show - Allen Park, Michigan - September 8-9, 2007 - 8:00 am - 4 pm both days. VFW HALL - 16736 ECORSE ROAD - ALLEN PARK, MICHIGAN - 20 Dealers and the Allen Park US Post Office available. Kitchen, Free Parking, Free Admission. Email bjstampcompany@aol.com for more information.
Posted by jaywild   ( 965 ) on Aug-11-07 at 06:39:27 PDT   Listings
infla-alec… Wow—that got to Germany quickly. Thanks go to you for all you have sent me gratis. What goes around comes around, pal.

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Sheryll, Roger & Billsey... Wow again, and—

CONGRATULATIONS!

Great photos of you (Sheryll) Roger and Bob in WA. Never had the opportunity to see him before. Tell him if he doesn’t get his computer fixed and get back to this board we’re coming up after him.

Jim
Posted by iomoon   ( 1054 ) on Aug-11-07 at 05:41:29 PDT   Listings
Great photos.

Congrats Roger and Sheryll.
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3749 ) on Aug-11-07 at 05:20:25 PDT   Listings

Congratulations to Sheryll & Roger for your national Level golds. What were the exhibits?

Jeff-Raff

Posted by claghorn1p   ( 411 ) on Aug-11-07 at 03:44:14 PDT   Listings
RichInTalent North Ingermanland, Nossi Be, Batum all have extendive forgeries. see my site.

Forgery Identification Site

Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Aug-11-07 at 03:37:20 PDT   Listings
CONGRATULATIONS to Sheryll ,Bill S. and Roger ......nice photos also
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 442 ) on Aug-11-07 at 03:31:59 PDT   Listings
Congratulations Sheryll and Roger ! and thank you Sheryll for the lovely photos.... keep them coming, always nice to put a face to the names in here! Hope you are enjoying your time at the show Bob!

Posted by bjornmu   ( 939 ) on Aug-11-07 at 03:30:08 PDT   Listings
Sheryll and Roger, congrats from me too!
Posted by richintalent   ( 137 ) on Aug-11-07 at 03:27:43 PDT   Listings
Claghorn et. al.: Thanks for info on Tuva- I put a bid in for $5 on a so- called 'Dr Bob collection'. If I win it, great if not que sera sera. my 1951 Scott album only has spaces for about a dozen or so Tuva stamps, but the lithoes look interesting. Now if i can just fill the spaces for North Ingermanland, Nossi Be, Batum, Quelimane.......

Rich
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1381 ) on Aug-11-07 at 03:18:08 PDT   Listings
Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all

Congrats to Sheryll & Roger on your Gold.
Jim L.


member
Posted by dbenson   ( 8464 ) on Aug-11-07 at 02:58:06 PDT   Listings
Sheryll,

it's GOLD, GOLD, GOLD for Sheryll & Roger,

Well done to the both of you,

David B.

Posted by sheryll*net   ( 91 ) on Aug-11-07 at 02:08:38 PDT   Listings
Jaywild - Thanks for your kind response. Well, today Roger and I were excited to visit our exhibits in the afternoon and find ribbons for gold medals on them! And Billsey received a silver. Here's a pic of Roger and I checking out a certain stamp in a U.S. stamps exhibit in the Court of Honour.

Bob in WA, Billsey and I had dinner together at the Dan and Louis Oyster Bar, which brought back some old memories for Bob who had eaten there more than 50 years ago.

S2
Posted by infla-alec   ( 561 ) on Aug-10-07 at 23:50:50 PDT   Listings
Jaywild Jim The surprise packet of modern US stamps sent to my friend in Germany arrived safely and Stefan sends his many thanks, as do I for being so helpful.
Posted by postalviews   ( 4197 ) on Aug-10-07 at 22:15:29 PDT   Listings
claghorn Hello old friend. I note you state in your post of 18:00:28 that Tannu Touva is not exhibit material, but then go on to post a link to exactly that in your post of 20:18:25.

Rhetorically to all, was there not a US stamp issued with the caption "Learning Never Ends"?
Posted by tlawrencestamps   ( 1451 ) on Aug-10-07 at 22:03:50 PDT   Listings
claghorn1p: Thanks for the Tannu Tuva Information & Illustrations.

By coincidence,, my 2 most "valuable" stamps are 2 triangles from my late Father's 1935 Collection.

They are: Liberian Official Triangle, and Spain Columbus Issue Triangle.Ted.
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 442 ) on Aug-10-07 at 21:10:21 PDT   Listings
Wow, Bill, thanks for that. A very interesting Exhibit, well worth the read!

Linda
Posted by claghorn1p   ( 411 ) on Aug-10-07 at 20:18:25 PDT   Listings

http://www.albumsmith.com/Tuva/postal.htm

http://www.albumsmith.com/Tuva/TuvaExhibitFrame.htm

Posted by figmente   ( 890 ) on Aug-10-07 at 20:09:28 PDT   Listings
ebay mystery:
All of my myebay saved searches suddenly changed to
sort by distance: nearest first
Posted by claghorn1p   ( 411 ) on Aug-10-07 at 20:08:59 PDT   Listings
Tannu Tuva stamps were sold through the Moscow philatelic agency along with the CTO Tannu Tuva and general Russia. All of the later Tuva covers I have seen, many, were addressed from or to the Moscow Philatelic Agency.
Posted by postalviews   ( 4197 ) on Aug-10-07 at 19:57:35 PDT   Listings
Richintalent Tannu Touva are perfectly legitimate collectible stamps now listed in Scott.

Tannu Touva was a country in Asia that attempted to remain independent of Soviet Russia, but failed in that regard as their cultural leaders were thoroughly stomped on by the Bolshevik monsters and virtually obliterated.

Commercial uses on cover are known to have passed through UPU mails.
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1381 ) on Aug-10-07 at 19:29:36 PDT   Listings
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Posted by tlawrencestamps   ( 1451 ) on Aug-10-07 at 18:13:03 PDT   Listings
stamps12345 Paul: Yes, the period between 1981 to about 1993 or so was a lot different than the exciting years of 1975-80.

That period was more like the pre 1975 market. Not much investing but a lot of collecting. Remember how long people kept the 1988 Scott Cat's because starting with the 1989 Cat. prices dropped to "retail" listings?

Rich Drews "The Stamp King" was one of my fav. dealers. He is both friendly and honest. He even drove from Chicago to South Bend to bring over a lot for me to look at.

The supply of nice inexpensive lots started to really dry up in 2002. Even during the first 6 years of e-bay there were still some good deals around. Not now. A lot of the stuff looks "picked over", or "salted" or "put together"

There are some really nice Virgin lots available at some of the major Auction Houses. Unfortunately, at the present time, they are beyond my means! Ted.
Posted by claghorn1p   ( 411 ) on Aug-10-07 at 18:00:28 PDT   Listings
RichInTalent Black Flag republic was an offshoot group in Taiwan in late 1800's.

Tannu Tuva have a following if you like them. They are not investment nor exhibit material, but they are fun. Most consider them one step above the Dunes.
Posted by richintalent   ( 137 )