This is Stanley Gibbons 210w: $1, watermark is Multiple Crown CA, inverted. SG lists a value for inverted watermark unused, but no price for used. Does anyone out there have experience with this variety in used condition? Will this fund my retirement?
coming in late.....I have ordered a "trial" Stamp Manager Program from Scott, of course , I don't have any tips or instructions on this. Is anyone familier with this program for tracking one's collection on the computer? And do you have any info on other programs that you may be using? Any recommendations on which are the best, esiest to use, etc. I sure would like to create a permanent record of my collections & bet others would like this kind of info also
Posted by claghorn1p
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412 ) on Sep-16-07
at 20:24:26 PDT
WWII Nazi Germany occupation of Poland U-Boat Hela submarine fieldpost stamp. Listed in Michel specialized catalog as Feldpost 13b. The stamp is mint never hinged without gum, as issued. It comes with brand new certificate (January, 2004), from Guido Gabisch BPP, the current German expert for U-Boat stamps, and is also signed by Dr. Oertel and one other person. Gabisch says on the cert: "The stamp is in above average condition."
History of the stamp: Issued in March 1945 for use by German troops cut-off on the tiny Hela Peninsula (near Danzig on the Polish Baltic sea coast), for mail that was to be sent to Germany via submarines. Almost all of the stamps were destroyed in the ferocious fighting during the final Soviet Red Army assault on the heavily fortified German positions. The surviving stamps were mostly dug out from the remains of destroyed German bunkers, which is why most of them are in very poor condition. This one is actually exceptionally well preserved
Posted by due2cents
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26 )
on Sep-16-07
at 20:16:13 PDT
The 3 Scott 2007 cataloges closed tonight and went for $20.49, $23.00, and $12.79. Much more than if I would have combined them into one lot. David Snyder
Posted by srailkb
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3115 ) on Sep-16-07
at 17:38:24 PDT
infla-alec, there's a high likelihood stamp "three" is Scott 185 (soft paper.) I'd guess stamp "four" is Scott 179, but much less certain. I agree with jaywild on the other 2 identifications.
There are certain characteristics (in addition to examining the paper) which can help differentiate Scott 179 vs 185. While not 100% conclusive, the "fuzziness" of the perfs on stamp three scream "soft paper" to me. That "look" on a banknote is almost exclusive to ABNC printings.
Posted by jaywild
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985 ) on Sep-16-07
at 16:37:23 PDT
Allan McComb… Yes, there is a surcharge for “odd-shaped” envelopes, and a square cover falls into that category. Currently the surcharge is 17 cents, but when that cover was mailed (2002) it was 12 cents. I have among my October 5th items a cover Bob in WA sent me during that rate period.
By the way, speaking of October 5 (weren’t we?), if in the next month or so anybody gets a humdrum piece of mail (or any kind really) that has a clear October 5 2007 cancel on it, I would be most interested to hear from you.
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Jim
Posted by lluehhhb
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297 )
on Sep-16-07
at 15:44:31 PDT
From the book "A History of Wreck Covers": "An old liberty ship, the 7,176 ton John Bidwell, last sailed in 1945. She had been lying in Philadelphia shipyard since then until she was broken up in 1960. To the surprise of everyone, the shipbreakers found a sealed compartment and inside were more than 500 bags of mail, destined for Chile from Britain and other parts of the world. So far as is known, these were all, or mostly, newspapers. The Chilean Post Office marked the individual pieces with a large explanatory cachet in san-serif in a box" Front and Back. (taken from this page.
And speaking about mail delays, in the local postal museum there is a display about a letter mailed from Santiago to New York in the 1910's. It was returned, without contents (and without a single explanation) in the 1980's or 90's, I don't remember well. Great service!
Posted by malolo
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850 ) on Sep-16-07
at 15:21:39 PDT
lluehhhb - Thanks for the information. It should be obvious to regluars that some way or another I will be "selling", or giving away, much of the collateral material. My only interest was the 4 Swiss package cards.
Roger
Posted by lluehhhb
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297 )
on Sep-16-07
at 15:17:35 PDT
Roger The Chile block in that mixed lot is valued at $15 in the local catalog. However, your copy has some condition problems so you must value it in the $8-$10 range I think.
Posted by mage
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658 )
on Sep-16-07
at 15:13:48 PDT
Hi. I don't collect modern items, however, I'd like some info on why this cover is due 12 cents. Is it because of the size (it's 5.5 x 5.5 inches)? Or is it something else. Here is link: http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l187/mage_05/Due1.jpg. Thanks, Allan.
Posted by malolo
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850 ) on Sep-16-07
at 15:03:12 PDT
Aloha - This is my last contribution for the Transportation Theme weekend. It's a long read from a Harper's magazine 1871 describing the history and construction of the Mount Cenis railway tunnel through the Alps. Those people in the 19th century didn't mess around, they just solved problems. http://catskillarchive.com/rrextra/mrcenis.Html
I have a number of covers routed over the Mount Cenis pass to Italy from Switzerland. It's worth the read.
Roger
Posted by greenwave4u
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81 ) on Sep-16-07
at 14:42:10 PDT
Jaywild Jim Wow thanks for the fast answers. Now to try and see for myself how you managed that. Knowing what Scott number to look at will be a good start :-)
Posted by jaywild
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985 ) on Sep-16-07
at 13:22:28 PDT
saphilatelics - Thanks for the info on the Heligoland stamp - David B Thanks for the web site. Glad to read and see that it is a valuable stamp. I will take it with me to the stamp show in Clifton New Jersey Sunday Sept 30th and if I don't sell it there I will put it up on Ebay in October. David Snyder
Posted by infla-alec
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561 ) on Sep-16-07
at 13:10:31 PDT
US stamp ID help Hello sorry I was not able to contribute to the Transport theme. But I have read the posts and it was very enjoyable. However I am having great difficulty in identifying four early US stamps. So please pipe up if you can id them and any tips on what to look for. Apologies in advance for the condition they are poor but I'm just trying to learn how to id the things in the first place. One Two Three Four
Posted by philaweb
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274 ) on Sep-16-07
at 12:44:17 PDT
Aloha - Now I wait to receive and check perfs on the top three cards. The lower card has the Type 1 Sitting Helvetia in combination with the Standing Helvetia )'>).
Paul - Let me know if the Riga is of interest to you, send me a note via eBay contact. If anyone sees something else of interest in this lot I'd appreciate your comments.
Roger
Posted by malolo
(
850 ) on Sep-16-07
at 11:28:30 PDT
Aloha - For the record this is not a straight line cancel, it indicates the stamp is obsolete. Thus, worth about $1 in this condition. Catalogues are wonderful references, someone at this firm should spend the money on a Swiss catalogue and stop embarassing themselves.
Paolo - Be careful. LOL
Roger Patiently waiting for an auction to close. It started as BIN but bidding had started before I found it so I don't know what the original asking price was, but I owuld have paid it. Now I've had to wait for three days. I expect to win it, while others nibble away at each other.
Posted by mikedak
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1273 )
on Sep-16-07
at 10:01:35 PDT
Here is a rare machine cancel attributed to Frederick Myers used to commemorate the Jarrett & Palmer - Special Fast Trans-Continental Train run that traveled from the East to West coast from 6/1/1876 to 6/4/1876 in just over 80 hours, or almost 40 mph, on average.
Posted by iomoon
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1054 ) on Sep-16-07
at 09:49:33 PDT
He must have found (in the attic) one great collection of stamps . Just Decriptions should bring flocks of collectors to his items. And of course the bids should flow like a river. :-)
Posted by iomoon
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1054 ) on Sep-16-07
at 09:03:07 PDT
Your stamp is a new issue of the USA, a higher value issued for the 1 ounce "International" rate from the USA to Europe, Asia and elsewhere. I think it is worth keeping for a collector. Its value is probably minimum right now but we have to wait and see how long it is used. The USA may again change the rates and that stamp will no longer be used.
Matt in Arizona
Posted by saschjohn
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321 ) on Sep-16-07
at 06:44:58 PDT
Hi it's Sascha from Germany Stamp Board. Friend of mine (none Collector) gave me this STamp and the this is seldom and much worth..dit I overlooke something seems to me as a normal US Fly Stamp 07 http://www.saschjohn.homepage.t-online.de/us.jpg well he is not a Collector...just in Case ;-)
Posted by philaweb
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274 ) on Sep-16-07
at 05:41:35 PDT
This New Hebrides cover was flown airmail to London. Addressee is the Dolcis Shoe Company. Interestingly, when I showed this cover to a fellow NH collector from UK, he told me that his wife had worked for the company many years earlier!
S2
Posted by dbenson
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8571 ) on Sep-16-07
at 00:49:44 PDT
Anne liked the Suez show, learnt a lot from that one. Not many bridges up to now so I will show the GB series "Britains Bridges", which of course shows Tower Bridge:-). Thanks to all that have showed on topic, keep them coming for another 24 hours!
djs127, stamps12345 That (terrible) scan is perfectly sufficient to judge the authenticity of the stamp. Why? Simple, because there are no reprints of the 1875 1 1/2 P./10 Pfg. value. Well, that's not true, I should say there are no private (=cheap) reprints, only official reprints made in 1890. The latter are rarer than the originals and are not usually found on the open market. So, what you have there is an original, likely from the 1890 printing's remainder stock, priced in Michel (No. 14e) at EUR 12 in MH condition, EUR 22 in MNH.
Posted by djs127
(
602 ) on Sep-15-07
at 21:25:40 PDT
Paul - I rescanned the stamp without the plastic and replaced it on AOL. Do you or someone else know of a web page which would let me check the Heligoland stamp for color to see if its an original or reprint? Thanks, David Snyder
Posted by jim_lawler
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1390 ) on Sep-15-07
at 20:19:21 PDT
transportation....wish I could show some things from my "Ohio Mails" exhibit (which focuses on the different methods of transportation of mail used in Ohio) but I've been working like a dog this week and through the weekend. [at least I'm working at home tonight -- I was in the office till 2 a.m. last night. Tonight was the first night I was home for dinner all week].
So I'll just make mention of something. In the latter part of the 19th century, several post offices operated on islands in Lake Erie. They were reachable only by boat during the summer. During the winter, they could be reached by various conveyances once the lake froze over. There are historical references that mail was carried by ice boat in certain circumstances! (i.e., a contraption on runners and with a sail). Probably the weirdest thing I could do in my exhibit, since Ohio didn't have any camels or anything. :)
[p.s. Anne, I do have a couple of canal items. Ohio is notable for being one of the very few states with a canal that can be proven to have carried mail, because there is published evidence of an actual mail contract (in 1837). I own a letter from the post office department to one of the postmasters along the canal, directing him to sort and route his mail accordingly. The contract only lasted one summer.
Posted by djs127
(
602 ) on Sep-15-07
at 19:17:59 PDT
My son Aryeh was putting in the catalog values for stamps in 102 cards for me earlier this week and found this stamp http://members.aol.com/djs127/Heligoland_17a.jpg which I must have bought on Ebay a while ago. Is it Heligoland Scott 17a? Or is it a forgery or reprint of some sort? David Snyder
Posted by vonbag
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191 ) on Sep-15-07
at 17:58:54 PDT
Thanks for your kind words, Peter, Jim (Jaywild) & others I might have missed! My sincerest6 apologies for not mentioning you ;-) For tomorrow I have 'in petto' a decent showing of an Italian traffic light on a postage stamp. It will be a specialised showing, with paper and watermark varieties (wake up yoor eye!) -- year of Issue is 1957. It is a discussed Issue, amongst those "error on stamps". I am a freak myself, so that is definitely everyday's bread.
Roger Very good, and thank you, my fellow INSPIRING Swiss specialist!
Prometheus, you are always most welcome, for the very few I can do!
Paolo
Posted by nomad55
(
921 ) on Sep-15-07
at 17:40:52 PDT
PPS: landing any aircraft was never a problem, with me. Mission completed! It is always a wonderful feeling, it can't be described with my words. Unless I had too much booze, for which I paid a very, very, very expensive prize (including awful jail time :-). Paolo
Posted by abt1950
(
229 ) on Sep-15-07
at 16:47:25 PDT
Argghhh---part of my post vanished. Here's the gist of what got left out:
There is one kind of forgery which is harder to detect because it was reprinted from the original stone used for the 40c. These were made by a man named Saatjian in the early part of the 20th century. They pass a casual examination because they bear the general characteristics of the genuine stamps. HOWEVER, if you look at them closer and try to type or plate them, then things become clearer--at least for the 1c, 5,c and 20c. values. These will show the characteristics of a Type I 40c, since this was the image that Saatjian used, but not the characteristics that they're supposed to have.
These two are, I believe Saatjian reprints. The 1 c black I bought as genuine several years ago from a reputable dealer. I didn't realize until last night, when I redid my Suez Canal pages, that it wasn't (bah, humbug!) This is especially annoying since the 1c. is the hardest value to find. I'm assuming that the 40c. red is a Saatjian because it types out more or less ok but the poor quality of the printing and the color of the gum are off.
BTW, many of the forgeries were made by Fournier.
Anne
Posted by due2cents
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26 )
on Sep-15-07
at 16:40:26 PDT
In 1854, the Egyptian Khedive Mohammed Said Pasha gave a concession to Ferdinand de Lesseps to build the Suez Canal. Work was begun in 1859 and completed in 1869. To carry mail between its offices, the company first used couriers and later contracted its mail delivery to the Posta Europea. When the Posta Europea was bought out by the Egyptian government, they had to carry their own mail again and started charging for the service on July 1, 1868, using stamps that they had ordered in April from Chezaud Aine et Tavernier in Paris. The company discontinued its mail service on August 5, 1868, so the stamps were valid for only a brief before being replaced by the first Egyptian government issues.
There were four values--1, 5, 20, and 40 centimes. Here are examples of the 5, 20, and 40 centimes values. This is a block of 4 of the 20c.
The various notations under the stamps refer to plating characteristics. These were made from stones of 120 subjects. The 1c., 5c., and 40c. stones were made by transferring the image to an intermediate stone of 4 and then building up the final litho stone from these. Consequently, there are 4 types of each of these values. The 20c. is more complicated, since the image was transferred to the stone 120 times. Genuine stamps can be typed and plated.
PS: IO, for me the Lindbergh famous aeroplane is one of the toughest (probably the most difficult) to drive, when it is fully loaded. It doesn't have to do with the total lack of frontal vision, compensated by your eye looking over your right hand shoulder, but just with that the aircraft tends to swing very much to the left when you open full throttle to take-off. Compensation with left rudder can easily be overwhelming, retard the reching T.O. speed and you can easily turn up-side down on the runway by doing so. It also needs, IMO, lots of smooth runway ahead to roll to rotate speed. The rotate angle is very small and unforgiving, in case there are any obstacles in the vicinity of the end of the runway. Paolo
Posted by vonbag
(
191 ) on Sep-15-07
at 15:50:09 PDT
Transportation: This miniature sheet issued for the NORWEX 80 exhibition shows (in chronological order) 4 different ways to transport mail. A sheet issued the year before shows different forms of air transport.
Posted by iomoon
(
1054 ) on Sep-15-07
at 13:15:13 PDT
A Polynesian double-hull sailing vessel (Alia in Samoan) for long trips across the Pacific, heading west on the south side of Ofu Island in the Manu'a Archipelago. By the way, some great fishing right there!
Thanks for showing that one. In my catalog I have it listed as train and ??? It's described as celebrating the Mombasa to Kisumu line. I need to get out atlas to try to nail it. Or maybe K-E knows?
Posted by greenwave4u
(
81 ) on Sep-15-07
at 12:12:23 PDT
I/O Jim thanks for that one. I am suprised you haven't shown this one Trains and Volcanos, well they look like they might be volcanos, if they are which ones? Could the 70c be Longonot?
Peter
Posted by malolo
(
850 ) on Sep-15-07
at 11:26:39 PDT
Pro - Luxembourg cancel looks like German made, or style copied from Germany.
The Swiss card is treated as a letter. In 1905 the US did not allow any message on address side. I think the US succumbed to European standards, writing on a split address side as opposed to writing on the picture, around 1907. So the rate on this is convoluted. International PC from Switzerland = 10 centimes = 2 US Cents. International letter 25 centimes = 5 US Cents Short paid 3 US cents - doubled for penalty = Total due 6 Cents.
Paolo - 500 Due looks sad. Perfs seems to have squared holes (maybe scanning artifact) and “500” is black instead of dark blue. BTW - I printed it last week since there is a new eBay collector specializing in Swiss material. I’ve got more to come! )’>)
My contribution to Transportation is located on my ME page. An Airmail front, and further down a post card showing a Stagecoach operated by the Post Office descending the Furka Pass. This conveyance has operated through today but replaced by PO busses for routes not serviced by trains! If you are ever in Switzerland you can buy a ticket for a bus ride into very spectacular scenery. You may be interested to know that the Swiss Fahrpost division carried mail by horse cart/coach well into the 20th century. This division handled most of the money for delivered products and newspapers. Collect fees were collected by the mailman. One might say the stage coaches were the Fed-Ex of the day, and they delivered throughout Switzerland.
We can’t forget the lake steamers and trains which handled mail. My oldest ship PO cancel on cover is from Lake Lucerne steamer, 1861, and my oldest train cancel is on a Strubel dated 1859.
Roger
Posted by claghorn1p
(
412 ) on Sep-15-07
at 11:25:14 PDT
It would be greatly appreciated if chat board participants provide LINKS to pictures rather than posting them directly to this board. Here's how to post a LINK. Thanks.
I/O Your traffic light was interesting as I gave a lecture in China for the UN many years ago on the 4 "Es", your stamp showed 3 of them. The 4th was Expenditure. Nice one, didn't know it existed on a stamp. Peter
Posted by iomoon
(
1054 ) on Sep-15-07
at 10:27:39 PDT
In case you hadn't realised the Monthly Topic is now open
The Ebay User's Stamp Club Topic for this month will be a Thematic one
"Transportation"
For those that need a definition, this can be any mode of transport or infrastructure that helps a person get from A to B. So get out your favourite stamps that show bicycles, Ferraris, AC Cobras, planes, shuttles, ships, roads, bridges, parking lots or traffic lights etc:-) The topic will run from 00:01 PDT Saturday 15th September until midnight on Sunday.
Posted by jaywild
(
985 ) on Sep-15-07
at 09:38:26 PDT
Wow you Guys and Gals have been busy, looks like my choice has hit the jackpot:-) My first shows are the First Mail Train and Mail Coaches. Separate challenge, what is the oldest stamp under this theme you can show (and read the date:))? My choice British Guiana Ships
Peter
Posted by jaywild
(
985 ) on Sep-15-07
at 09:36:47 PDT
NOIP: Does anyone have any info. on this Swiss Postage Due 500 Rp. forgery here? It appears as typographed on somehow porous paper w/o control sign. The perfs are also different from the genuine: it appears as line perforated.
TIA, Paolo
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