eBay chatboard archive: Nov-05-07 to Nov-11-07 week

Posted by caindw0627   ( 507 ) on Nov-11-07 at 23:55:38 PST   Listings
I know nothing about stamp collecting, but have access to stamps from all over the world. Here are scans of stamps from China & Japan. I know nothing about grading them but want to find out if they have any value. I scanned a couple pages from a collection book. Please help me determine if they are worth the trouble?

China: http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/646/chinazc3.jpg
Japan: http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/6246/japanpq4.jpg

Posted by de66   ( 1159 ) on Nov-11-07 at 22:23:13 PST   Listings
Just been told my entry for Tel Aviv next year was not accepted, but 13 other Aussie's are in.

Will have to cancel all my Israel plans now, Bugger.

D1
Posted by lookwhatbobfound   ( 278 ) on Nov-11-07 at 22:09:46 PST   Listings
TIME
Posted by afeht   ( 1160 ) on Nov-11-07 at 20:57:02 PST   Listings
What planet are catalog prices for British and Swiss classic stamps from? Nobody wants to pay even 10% of yesteryear CV for nicely cancelled ones, forget the "average" condition. Sometimes I don't understand why Scott wouldn't want to be real -- forget about Gibbons and Michel, they went cuckoo decades ago. And don't tell me about "condition," I've heard it all. Only very few rare stamps sell for catalog price, everything else is dealers' fishing in troubled waters, scam pure and simple. No wonder youngsters are turned off from philately.
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1427 ) on Nov-11-07 at 20:16:03 PST   Listings
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Posted by squidwillow   ( 1044 ) on Nov-11-07 at 19:41:52 PST   Listings
Re Scott Ital Cols pages - I don't have a Scott pricelist, so don't know if that set is out of print - the stack is only about an inch thick - no mounts, no stamps, just the pages.
Of course, I'm not complaining about the realization, just puzzled!
Posted by djs127   ( 627 ) on Nov-11-07 at 19:37:38 PST   Listings
Regards from Waltham Mass. where I am on a business trip.
Lucikly I will be back home Monday night late.
No time this weekend to work on stamps as had to buy a new Laserjet printer (old one died Saturday night) HP 1108 which Staples has on sale for $38.88 after mail in rebates.
David Snyder
Posted by dragonstamps   ( 491 ) on Nov-11-07 at 19:04:01 PST   Listings
Italian colonies:
I have those Scott pages. I didn't have that much trouble finding them about 6? years ago.
If they don't include mounts, that auction would seem strange for just the pages. I don't think Scott has hingless pages.
If there were stamps with the pages, ignore what I've said.
I'm guessing there must have been stamps included in the lot!
Posted by dbenson   ( 8692 ) on Nov-11-07 at 17:31:02 PST   Listings
squid, it all depends on what the retail price of the Scott's specialty pages are. If they are much higher then it is logical that the realisation was high.

David B.
Posted by vonbag   ( 207 ) on Nov-11-07 at 16:40:52 PST   Listings
Re: Italian Colonies,
Formula:
Nice design, low printing.
Mostly scarce to rare on non-philatelic cover.
However, it all takes two or more bidders for the end price to escalate, in any occasion.
For some *rare* things on this field, which are mostly covers or stamps with a printing between 10 to 1000 pieces, the collectors are rarer than the objects themselves.
Let's not confuse Post Offices Abroad, Possessions and Provisional Issues with Colonies, though.
I am only speaking of these last.
Paolo
Posted by squidwillow   ( 1044 ) on Nov-11-07 at 15:30:16 PST   Listings
Thanks, Kele, re the Italian colonies. Probably the pages are a spinoff of the high recent stamp interest. Based on their previous bids from feedback, all bidders were very serious. Nice to know that REAL collectors are alive out there!
Posted by keleofa   ( 3600 ) on Nov-11-07 at 15:25:00 PST   Listings
Squid,

re: Italian Colonies

Not sure about the value of the pages, but the value of Italian Colonies stamps, especially MNH has skyrocketed over the past couple of years, at least in the Scott Catalogs.

I had a few older MNH issues (Libia, Oltre Giuba, Cirenaica) and values went from under a $1 to $10, $20, $30, within a few years. I'm assuming it not just Scott because the high bidders were in Italy. I think I'll list another batch!

Anyway, congratulations!

Matt in Arizona
Posted by squidwillow   ( 1044 ) on Nov-11-07 at 15:14:33 PST   Listings
Hi, all, longtime lurker here. Today's adventure was selling a set of Scott Specialty album pages for Italian Colonies - I expected maybe $35, they ended up at $310, with fervent bidding from 5 bidders. I'm happy, of course, but also curious - anyone know why the interest/demand for these?
Posted by 220man   ( 161 ) on Nov-11-07 at 14:27:21 PST   Listings
Due: Interesting that they began using Pan Pacific postmarks as early as 1911. It took almost four years to construct the fairgrounds for the 1915 opening. Doesn't hurt to advertise!
Phil
Posted by nomad55   ( 939 ) on Nov-11-07 at 13:08:28 PST   Listings
Pro...very nice!!

Can you post up a scan of the entire address side?

In exchange, here's a few pics for your archives.

photo of Colorado: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/nomad55/Coloradopic-armouredcruiser.jpg

1911: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/nomad55/Colorado1911.jpg
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Nov-11-07 at 12:41:30 PST   Listings
NOIP

Had some more Philatelic Phun today

Found lots of stuff

But had to share this one because it
fits in Two of my favorite catagories

ModelPostOffice_USSColorado

Guess I'll take turns keeping it in the EXPO book and then in the USS Book.

Found lots of neat things today
Back to the markings.
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 510 ) on Nov-11-07 at 11:49:35 PST   Listings
Paul, you sure it wasn't AlGore who told you about the ice drifting past Barbados ?
L.
Posted by bjornmu   ( 950 ) on Nov-11-07 at 11:41:46 PST   Listings
IO, there is actually such a place, but the postal expedition was in operation from 1919 to 1970, long after Jupiter. I've never seen an IO cancel so it must be quite small.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8692 ) on Nov-11-07 at 11:15:17 PST   Listings
Bjorn, nice strike, who knows what would have happened if the seller had described it properly,

David B.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1055 ) on Nov-11-07 at 11:12:54 PST   Listings
Bjorn

Pity it wasn't on a cover.

It might have exhibited a transit "via Io". :-)


Thank you veterans and all contemporary serving armed force members.
Posted by bjornmu   ( 950 ) on Nov-11-07 at 10:54:45 PST   Listings
I see that extra-terrestrial cancels, like this from JUPITER command a premium. :-) Actually, it's a ship but still I guess a very satisfied (and suprised!) seller.
Posted by philaweb   ( 314 ) on Nov-11-07 at 06:46:47 PST   Listings
Good Morning/Day/Afternoon/Evening!

Yet another day in front of the PC. Today is listing day.

Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Nov-11-07 at 06:31:46 PST   Listings
And a Thanks to all the Veterans
of any service
of any country
anywhere they might be


Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Nov-11-07 at 06:19:11 PST   Listings
MASONLY 1 ----Matt is correct a lot of material as you described is canceled in that way,to pay postage due .Here is a sample of stamps used by a religious order out of Waterford Wi. to pay for postage due. They must get hundreds if not thousands of dollars a month in postage due .They recover a big part of their postage cost by selling at half or better of face to the stamp dealers around Chicago .Favorite cancels for customer....paul
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Nov-11-07 at 06:01:21 PST   Listings
LINDY ----thanks I agree with you but I took it to the great philatelic expert ,I.M.KOOK and he said that the white line on the horizon is not a color shift but the arctic ice shelve off of Barbados .
Posted by keleofa   ( 3600 ) on Nov-11-07 at 05:50:58 PST   Listings
Masonly1,

1. An entire sheet can be canceled with the mute/dumb oval for several reasons. If a company or individual had to pay the Post Office $2.00, let's say for postage due charges, a sheet of stamps may be used. Also, just to create used stamps to sell to collectors.

2. First Day Cover without stamps? Assuming it's not a PSE, how did it get through the mails? If there's no stamp, how do you know it is a first day use? Were stamps removed? Can you link to a scan or supply more details?

Matt in Arizona
Posted by breffington   ( 387 ) on Nov-11-07 at 04:54:53 PST   Listings
Vonbag: Been away from the board for awhile. Thank you again for your help on my Swiss airmail cover. And it is a genuine usage to the town right next to mine!
Best regards,Frank
Posted by masonly1   ( 43 ) on Nov-11-07 at 04:36:44 PST   Listings
question 2 how do i value a 1st day of issue envelope with 4 postmarks but no stamp?
Posted by masonly1   ( 43 ) on Nov-11-07 at 04:34:47 PST   Listings
why would whole unused sheets of scott1033 be cancelled with an oval mark?
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 510 ) on Nov-11-07 at 04:22:28 PST   Listings
Paul - its a color shift. The whole blue 'water' print has shifted slightly higher, so the 'white caps' don't show. If you look closely you will see the blue water does not reach the horizon on the stamp with 'white caps in water'.

Linda

11.30pm off to bed, g'nite
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Nov-11-07 at 04:03:36 PST   Listings
NEW DISCOVERY UNLISTED VARIETY-------Neat find ,notice the water below the ships bottom on one stamp is quiet and darker blue ,while the other looks like white caps with a lighter blue ocean and rough seas . BARBADOS 1906.....paul
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Nov-10-07 at 20:12:50 PST   Listings
MATT

Have to disagree with you about getting ripped off.The old way was face to face dealer to customer ,one on one .Today everything is faster and multipled by a factor of 10 X. Sure the old tricks and run of the mill lies don't work but its a new generation of trickster.The game plan is on a much bigger scale.

The theory of cheating customers is throw enought garbage out there the few knowledgeable buyers will return it and walk away but there is a crowd behind them with more money and sooner or later the buyer will think he got a bargin and keep the material.

Posted by paperhistory   ( 1991 ) on Nov-10-07 at 19:47:57 PST   Listings
pro....and it's from Ohio! 1917 is late for advertised mail...
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1427 ) on Nov-10-07 at 19:26:39 PST   Listings
member
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Nov-10-07 at 19:10:24 PST   Listings

NOIP

Got this nice card for my Personal book today

Advertized_UnClaimed_Due

There was room for some more marks but I guess they
finally found the Person
Posted by keleofa   ( 3600 ) on Nov-10-07 at 19:04:22 PST   Listings
Paul,

Yes, so much has changed. Collectors starting up today will not have experienced Ben Franklin Stamp Clubs, stamp clubs at larger companies and approvals.

But due to the internet collectors will have so much more information at their fingertips and hopefully will get ripped off less often!

Matt in Arizona
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Nov-10-07 at 18:25:34 PST   Listings
MATT in AZ.-----Good subject for a weekend discussion .------"GONE ARE THE DAYS WHEN......" in a philatelic sense .

Gone are the days when we when to the stamp store .

Gone are the days we enjoy looking thru a dealers two cent box .

Gone are the days when we hinged everything .

Gone are the days when you spent years looking for that stamp,now you just run a search on e-bay .

Im sure there many others .

Posted by keleofa   ( 3600 ) on Nov-10-07 at 17:46:30 PST   Listings
Jim (Jaywild),

Not entirely Scott's fault. The USPS is outsourcing stamp production and they don't care if self-stick stamps have scalloped die cut 'perfs' (they're not even perforated anymore!) or serpentine 11.73 or serpentine 10.27. But Scott sees these as varieties. They are production varieties. At least they're listing with some logic.

The USPS and Scott also probably see a profit motive in having these varieties. More stamps held by collectors, more FDCs to service (although that may be a losing proposition), more catalogs sold, more pages of supplements.

Gone are the days when a 5 year old Scott catalog would suffice.

Matt in Arizona
Posted by jaywild   ( 1018 ) on Nov-10-07 at 17:12:25 PST   Listings
Ken S… Yes, the information was very helpful. I don’t collect those stamps, I was just curious. I wasn’t complaining about the information you supplied, only that with a little foresight Scott might have laid out a sequence of numbers for that series that allowed for expansion, then stuck with it. Instead they developed one system, expanded it, then suddenly ripped it out by the roots and started over.

Jim
Posted by 7720matt   ( 150 ) on Nov-10-07 at 16:26:25 PST   Listings
Thanks Keleofa. Just looked it up in imdb. That's it.
Posted by keleofa   ( 3600 ) on Nov-10-07 at 16:14:34 PST   Listings
7720matt,

You're thinking of 'Sole Survivor', 1970 movie about a B-24 bomber ghost crew in North Africa.

Matt in Arizona
Posted by 7720matt   ( 150 ) on Nov-10-07 at 16:03:30 PST   Listings
"Flight of the Phoenix" sounds like a ABC "Movie of the week" from the very early 70's. I remember the crew constructed a baseball diamond to pass the time. At the end of the movie the remains of the crew are found,most still in the aircraft,straped to their seats. It's a ghost movie.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Nov-10-07 at 15:35:29 PST   Listings
JUDY -------Someone who knowns the material should sit down with you and him{the collector} and review what he has .Some material from specialised collections should be sold on the album pages especially if research has been done. The "BUY IT NOW " option is not the best ,sometimes a longer period of viewing will bring better results . If you use buy it now and the material is rare you will short change yourselfs .Heck if its real good someone like myself would buy it all, before others have a chance to see it.

If you can try scanning a few items and let us view if the material is truely high power we will let you know .Sometimes specialist material is nothing but cheap stamps that someone thinks is a study or page after page of irrevalent differances ......paul

Posted by mini*lindy   ( 510 ) on Nov-10-07 at 13:56:55 PST   Listings
JayJim I think those 'promotional' emails only go out to active selling accounts

JudyI didnt see your original message, however, if your man wants to start selling on eBay, best to start with registering on the SITE MAP for a Sellers Account, then, read the links under selling for instructions/ rules and regulations.
You are at least starting out with some eBay experience, any listing on eBay is only likely to sell for its best potential if the seller puts effort in to their work. Your man isn't sounding as if he's prepared for that. Good scan, Good acurate description, Good communication with buyers, and prompt, efficient packing and shipping. Don't presume this..or that.., and Don't leave your buyers presuming. Explain or state facts accurately.
Good Luck
Linda
Posted by dbenson   ( 8692 ) on Nov-10-07 at 13:37:27 PST   Listings
roger,

http://pages.ebay.com/promo/freegallery/?ssPageName=CMDV:AB

David B.
Posted by judyw601   ( 12 ) on Nov-10-07 at 13:29:04 PST   Listings
hi again! i'm judy. i just left you a message about the man in my life extreme interest, stamps of the baltic states. i was realizing that i would be illegal to do thingsthe way he wants to, i mean not kosher with ebay. i supposed since he won't go near a computer i could set up buy it now sites on ebay for him. here is a question though, because he specializes, he has trouble connecting for selling, ebay would solve that wouldn't it. if i get any answers from you, i'll do my dog gone best to talk him into at least trying it. thanks for letting me talk it thru, now i have to convince him. thank-you for your time. judy
Posted by malolo   ( 863 ) on Nov-10-07 at 13:19:40 PST   Listings
Aloha craftyps -

Re your post:
"PLEASE READ THE MESSAGE FROM EBAY REGARDING FREE GALLERY, every Ebay user received it."

I sure didn't, so there must be a bunch of peole on San Jose making assumptions!

I assume you mean the home page when mentioning Ebay.com page? The only htings I see on that page are a whole bunch of purses, and the category listings. Please expand your information. Thanks.


Roger
Posted by craftyps   ( 1006 ) on Nov-10-07 at 12:33:52 PST   Listings
Hello Antonius, you seem to have GALLERY checked, if so, no problem. Turbolister shows the extra charge but will only charge you the correct amount. PLEASE READ THE MESSAGE FROM EBAY REGARDING FREE GALLERY, every Ebay user received it. If you missed it, it is also mentioned on the Ebay.com page.
Take care, Ernie
Posted by keleofa   ( 3600 ) on Nov-10-07 at 11:45:58 PST   Listings
South Africa...

Stanley Gibbons 99a

1942 South Africa 1½d Rouletted 13 between with Advertising Labels, on cover

Anyone have any information on the value of these stamps with the labels attached. They are on a Censored cover to the USA in 1942.

T I A,

Matt in Arizona
Posted by iomoon   ( 1055 ) on Nov-10-07 at 11:12:55 PST   Listings
Sheesh, that went quickly.

For Judy.

If your dealer/collector friend won't touch computers, he is dead-in-the-water.
Posted by jaywild   ( 1018 ) on Nov-10-07 at 11:10:36 PST   Listings
NOIP… Here’s a cover I came across this morning and got. It’s from Jeannette Rankin, who is notable for more than one reason. One, she was the first woman ever elected to the US Congress (either house), from Montana in 1916, before women were even allowed to vote nationally. Second, she was the only member of Congress to vote against going to war in 1941, and lastly, she also voted against declaring war in 1917, one of only 50 congresspersons to do so.

Jim
Posted by malolo   ( 863 ) on Nov-10-07 at 10:44:49 PST   Listings
Paolo -
Thank you for explaining correctly the rate for the airmail cover. It would have been so much easier to see a scan from the outset! I went to work and don't get home until after midnight Hawaii time.

To Anyone looking for information - please post a link to a scan. It will make it so much easier and quicker to give correct answers to your questions

Esnipe was awake and won this for me. I like it not only for true use of 100 centimes postage dues, but it was "refuse" a growing side line of mine. I now have signed "refuse" items dating between 1882 & 1928. I'll get the story all put together sometime.

Roger
Swiss Razor Cancels
Posted by lluehhhb   ( 303 ) on Nov-10-07 at 10:39:58 PST   Listings
Thanks to Paul, Jim and due2cents
for the help about ironing my cover. The result was quite good considering the initial state of the cover.
Posted by vonbag   ( 206 ) on Nov-10-07 at 10:08:57 PST   Listings
Thanks Matt!



Paolo
Posted by keleofa   ( 3598 ) on Nov-10-07 at 09:39:10 PST   Listings
Flight of the Phoenix...

Original with Jimmy Stewart, 1965

Remake with Dennis Quaid in 2004.

Both unbelievable but I really enjoyed them. Lots of drama and twists and turns.

Matt in Arizona
Posted by vonbag   ( 206 ) on Nov-10-07 at 09:27:54 PST   Listings
Mitch,
We're speaking about two different cinema flicks.
The one I saw and referenced to is of the '50s, don't know the title because I saw it in Italy some years ago, a synchronised version in Italian. I thought the title was that, of the old film, but probably I 'm wrong.
Paolo
Posted by philaweb   ( 313 ) on Nov-10-07 at 09:05:44 PST   Listings
Good Morning/Day/Afternoon/Evening!

What I am working on today.

Posted by antonius-ra   ( 648 ) on Nov-10-07 at 08:57:53 PST   Listings
Billsey Those Eastern Rumelias I sent you were from a dealers stock. I have had them looked at since I bought them by an expert and they were said to be good. Although i think a couple may have fake cancels.

Turbo lister seems to have a fault in it (don't think there is an upgrade). I looked at my billing on a couple lots and they were correct, not what Lister said they would be.

I thought Flight of the Phoenix was one of the stupedest movies in recent memory. A poorly done "fantasy" which I am suprised Dennis Quaid had anything to do with.
Posted by vonbag   ( 206 ) on Nov-10-07 at 07:54:57 PST   Listings
"BE-24" = B-24, durnit.
Posted by vonbag   ( 206 ) on Nov-10-07 at 07:53:45 PST   Listings
In fact, with the Italian fighter planes of the time, which could have been scrambled, a C47 might have been a relatively easy target... but one didn't want to get too close to a BE-24 with an MC 202, for instance.
I recall that both movie actors James Stewart and Clack Gable were bomber pilots. Can't recall which of the two was Captain on a BE-24.
I saw the movie "The Flight of the Phoenix", it was - originally - a twin engine and tailed transport aircraft, of the type 'Flying Wagon'.
When crash landed on the desert due to underestimated bad weather, it was modified into a single engine aircraft, that they baptized 'Phoenix' thanks to the ingeniousness of some of the crew/passengers. I recall that one aboard was a RC model aircraft designer. Very nice black&white movie!

Paolo
Posted by vonbag   ( 206 ) on Nov-10-07 at 07:36:15 PST   Listings
Paul, sorry, didn't notice your message referring to the B-24.
Thanks to you as well!
Paolo
Posted by knuden   ( 2387 ) on Nov-10-07 at 05:49:53 PST   Listings
Antonius-ra - Hi Mitchel. It has happened for me, by using turbo-lister, that it charge me for the full sum but when I look at my eBay account under monthly invoice, they have deleted the difference between the full fee and the discount.

K.E  I'm a catalog queen - whoopee!!


Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1423 ) on Nov-10-07 at 04:33:43 PST   Listings
Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all


Jim L.


member
Posted by sayasan   ( 733 ) on Nov-10-07 at 04:19:48 PST   Listings
ant-ra - do you need to update your Turbolister first?
Posted by vonbag   ( 206 ) on Nov-10-07 at 04:00:34 PST   Listings
P.S.: and 'Post tenebras lux' ;-)
(the light after the darkness)
Posted by vonbag   ( 206 ) on Nov-10-07 at 03:52:41 PST   Listings
Frank,
At the light of the day I consulted the Zumstein Rate Tables again: you Swiss Airmail / Express cover is in perfect rate!
Recapitulating:
A. total franking with adhesives on your cover 100 + 60 Rp

1. flat letter rate to abroad 30 Rp. for the first 20 grammes (20 Rp. for additional weight in multiples thereof).
2. special delivery right to abroad was 60 Rp.
3. airmail right to the US of A. was 70 Rp. every 5 grammes (from February 1941)

B. total due : 30 + 60 + 70 = 160 Rp.

A = B, quod erat demonstrandum.

Paolo
Posted by srailkb   ( 3118 ) on Nov-10-07 at 03:40:18 PST   Listings
jaywild, that Navajo Jewelry page is dated. You might have noticed it doesn't list the 2007 issue, and reflects Scott numbers which have since changed (old 3749 = new 3750, 3749A = 3751, 3749B = 3752). I posted it because it nicely illustrates the microprinting locations, and also lists several other differences (not noted in Scott) which help identify the varieties. I hope you find the information helpful.
Posted by vonbag   ( 206 ) on Nov-10-07 at 03:33:53 PST   Listings
Ah Frank I see,
The red brown 60 Rp W. Tell stamp of the Issue of 1941, of course.
Sorry, I was thinking about those small size definitives, which anyway wouldn't have had postal validity in this period (1945).
Paolo
Posted by vonbag   ( 206 ) on Nov-10-07 at 03:28:32 PST   Listings
Good day all!

Due2cents,
Many thanks for your reply!
With your permission I will translate your reply on that other forum.

Frank,
There is not a single 60 Rp Tell stamp; the hoghest denom. of the Tell definitives id the 30 Rp. I believe it is a 30Rp blue? What you read at the top is probably the weight of the cover, 5 grammes.

Paolo





Posted by knuden   ( 2387 ) on Nov-10-07 at 02:27:34 PST   Listings
Here is my latest acquisition:

In 1873, during a printing of a Postal card from Austria for use in the Czech part of Austria-Hungary, an error was made. By a mistake, the 5 kr. cliche normaly used for Postal covers, was used on a small print of Postal cards. As soon the Postal Autorities of Austria noticed it, a 2 kr. stamp (which was the correct rate) was added on top of the wrong imprinted stamp.

This card will fit fine in my Prague collection. :O)

In the same lot was this:
It's a Postal card from Belgium, which on the other side are showing mail-carrying boats of Belgium. These cards are scarce.

K.E  I'm a catalog queen - whoopee!!


Posted by billsey   ( 855 ) on Nov-09-07 at 22:30:53 PST   Listings
And it sounds like your Turbo Lister is giving you a gallery image, or something like that, that accounts for the extra $0.35.
Posted by billsey   ( 855 ) on Nov-09-07 at 22:27:19 PST   Listings
Mitch, I'm not comfortable enough with those Eastern Rumelia overprints yet. There are so many forgeries, and the genuine ones are so poorly done... I've got a dozen or so, and just figure they're bad.
Posted by jaywild   ( 1015 ) on Nov-09-07 at 21:58:39 PST   Listings
Mitch… Sorry! I don’t use TurboLister, in fact haven’t listed anything for several years.

Jim
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 648 ) on Nov-09-07 at 20:48:23 PST   Listings
Help I havn't been listing for quite sometime but started last week. It was cheap listing for a few daus (10 cents for basic 7 day auctions starting between .01 and .99 cents). I've started listing again tonight with turbo lister and I'm getting the shaft. I looked up the listing fees and they should be 20 cents for a 7 day listing starting from 1-99 cents with no frills. When I go to upload it states the listing fee is 55 cents!
Could someone please tell me what's up with this?
Posted by jaywild   ( 1015 ) on Nov-09-07 at 20:19:16 PST   Listings
chaswilly… The Flight of the Phoenix was about a plane downed in the Sahara, but I don’t think it was a specific type of aircraft. At any rate, it was fiction, based on a pot-boilerish novel.

There was a real-life drama involving one of those B24s, named the Lady Be Good, which vanished after taking off from a Libyan air base for a bombing run over Italy. They disappeared, and no one knew where until 1959, when the bomber was discovered deep in the Libyan desert. All the crew had parachuted out and were saved, only to die trying to struggle back to civilization.

According to a diary one of the airmen kept, after the bombing run they somehow missed seeing the coast of Libya on their return. (It was night, and unless someone happened to see the line the surf made against the shore, it was easy to miss, because at night the sands of the Sahara look exactly like the waters of the Mediterranean.) They truly believed they were still over water, until the plane ran out of gas, and by then they were hopelessly far out into the desert. The men had no hope of getting back alive, but they gamely kept at it for several days before succumbing to lack of water. When the bomber was discovered, by accident more than fifteen years later, the story electrified the country and was the cover story in LIFE magazine. I was eight years old at the time.

Google “The Lady Be Good” for more information.

Jim
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Nov-09-07 at 20:13:18 PST   Listings
Chas

Maybe

But I mean the shear numbers.
I have heard a thousand mentions of the B17
and lately (Tibbets death) the B29
But the 24 25 26
seem to be kinda left out.
Guess I shoulda added the olde MHO

Most remember DooLittle for his Japan Raid, not his North Africa Work.
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06/28/07

Posted by breffington   ( 386 ) on Nov-09-07 at 19:45:00 PST   Listings
Vonbag: I am continually impressed by the level of knowledge on our board. And don't underestimate Paul. That's a beautiful Pax set you pulled out of your hat there Paul. Getting back to the Swiss airmail cover up at the top is written 5gr and the two stamps are the one franc Pax and a 60 rappen William Tell. The red label reads Eilsendung Expres-Espresso as you mentioned.Quite a price difference for stamp on cover. The envelope is blue, has a border of stylized planes and is tissue thin. Maybe the contents were heavy? Does this help in figuring if the cover has the correct postage? Frank
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1423 ) on Nov-09-07 at 19:35:54 PST   Listings
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Posted by chaswilly   ( 1668 ) on Nov-09-07 at 19:10:26 PST   Listings
due, Respectfully beg to differ, but wasn't the movie Phoenix, or something similar (don't recall the exact film) a Liberator downed in the North African desert?
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Nov-09-07 at 17:25:56 PST   Listings
The B24 Never had the fame of the 17 or 29 But flew more missions
Then again they were never on a TV show
or Major movie

And when you consider that less than 7% of the folks on the planet today were alive then
History is easy to forget.

I had a GrandFather in the 9th AF
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Nov-09-07 at 15:50:36 PST   Listings
DUE----Think your right ,they would of been B-24 Liberators if they flew over hostile territory.That was the main bomber in that theather of operations
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Nov-09-07 at 15:31:32 PST   Listings
Paolo

I would imagine that the Planes that dropped that leaflet came from the Allied bases at

Sousse Tunisia

That is where the Gliders and Paras
Came from.
I Do NOT know if C47 dropped them,
As many areas were being bombed prior to the invasion
I would think that the Bombers could have dropped them on the way or while over the areas.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 648 ) on Nov-09-07 at 15:14:58 PST   Listings
Jeff Thanks much for the heads up. I thought I had double checked that spelling, guess not. I ended it and will rerun.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Nov-09-07 at 15:10:00 PST   Listings
NEW READERS and Speciality Collectors Just so you know what is being discussed this is a PAX set from my collection. SWISS PAX SET COMPLETE .....paul
Posted by vonbag   ( 206 ) on Nov-09-07 at 15:10:00 PST   Listings
P.S. I neglected the "airmial" right -- sorry I really didn't notice it :-( --, 20 rappen (20 cents)??? --
The count doesn't return, jetz. I tried to consult Zumstein.

Paolo (let's here from Roger - nano-nano)
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3802 ) on Nov-09-07 at 14:22:10 PST   Listings

Ant-raff : nice auction layouts and description. Just noted anyone looking for Ryukyu by search will likely miss your Ruyky item. Now, that's how we pronounce it down here, but that's another thing...

Jeff-raff



Hi mini-raff!!

Posted by vonbag   ( 206 ) on Nov-09-07 at 14:16:55 PST   Listings
Howdy Frank,
I know that nice looking blue stamp, in my Michel Spezial of 2007 the 1 frank PAX on cover catalogs 150,00 Euro (about 220 US $).
The flat letter rate to abroad in that period was 30 Rp. for the first 20 grammes, 20 Rp. for additional weight in multiples thereof.
In the same period, the special delivery (Espresso - Eilsendung) right to abroad was 60 Rp.
So, it would look like your cover is overfranked of 10 Rp (or underfranked of the same amount).
Yet, it sounds like an interesting genuine usage.
Please, wait for Roger!

Paolo (the 50 bucks man ;-))
Posted by breffington   ( 386 ) on Nov-09-07 at 13:38:43 PST   Listings
Staying in the same WW 11 arena I have an airmial cover cancelled with a Bern Felsenau cancel dated 6/7/45. It has a red express label and has been redirected several times and has a piece of paper with the final address pasted over the original one. The stamp is the one franc Pax issue with a bird on it and the envelope has censor tape on it. The Pax stamp in Scott is cataloged at $95. However the receiving office in the US applied a wavy lines cancel that has heavily cancelled the stamp. So no backstamp. I'm wondering what the cover goes for in Michel or Zumstein? If I choose to list on ebay what it would probably bring? Regards,Frank
Posted by vonbag   ( 206 ) on Nov-09-07 at 13:23:36 PST   Listings
To NOIP:

On behalf of a friend of mine, we would need to know if anyone has any information about the Allied (Anglo-American) Propaganda Operation in the Sicilian theatre of military operations just before the invasion, during WWII.
I ask, with an example here
(http://forums.ebay.it/thread.jspa?threadID=600069075&tstart=0&mod=1194629239813) of the propaganda manifesto's that were aero-transported and thrown on enemy soil before July 9, and 10, 1943.
The aircraft that launched such sheets was probably a C47 Skytrain.
Does anybody know where were they based in that period, and some details on this propaganda operation on enemy's soil?
Thank you in advance!
Paolo
Posted by nebelfeger   ( 2215 ) on Nov-09-07 at 13:20:30 PST   Listings
Lou, they either cuts of parcel post or transmittal receipts for money, quite common in Europe thru the postal services. You find the stamps under Czechoslovakia, Boehmen and Maehren was the name of Nazi occupied Czech.
Posted by vonbag   ( 206 ) on Nov-09-07 at 12:58:55 PST   Listings
Linda,
Now, here in the low lands it's not snowing yet. ;-)
It was a bit stormy yesterday.
Had an e-mail before from a Swiss business partner from near Solothurn, that there it has been snowing, and it's colder than usual.
If we correct the inclination of the ax of rotation of the earth, to 0 degrees, we will have seasons at the same time, and we will also overcome the precession of the equinox (every ~ 22000 years, if I recall correctly).
;-)
Paolo
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 508 ) on Nov-09-07 at 12:40:26 PST   Listings
bookmark. Gorgeous sunny Saturday morning here! - sorry if its snowing where YOU are ! :o)
Posted by jaywild   ( 1015 ) on Nov-09-07 at 12:07:16 PST   Listings
Ken S… Thanks for that Navajo jewelry 2¢ link, which illustrates clearly three different types of the stamp. I fear however that it is at odds with the info Matt in AZ posted below from Scott, which identifies 5 different versions of the stamp, with 4 distinct numbers (i.e. 3750, -51, -52 & -53) and one variety not numbered (the reprinted 3750 of the “brighter turquoise” border). Also, the numbers have been shifted upward—as of now #3749 apparently has been reassigned to the 1¢ stamp of the series, if Matt is correct. Further, your link shows only one microprinted variety, with Scott listing two: one on the right and one on the left.

It’s a mess, of course, not untypical of the way Scott does things…

Jim
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 648 ) on Nov-09-07 at 10:14:18 PST   Listings
Bill S. These are really hot right now. 160% of cat ain't bad. I'm thinking about selling off my collection of them. I also have