eBay chatboard archive: Nov-12-07 to Nov-18-07 week

Posted by 22028   ( 1665 ) on Nov-18-07 at 23:04:51 PST   Listings
Alex, re typing errors, I do not know what kind of browser you are using.. but usually for every browser there is a add-on for spell checking...
Posted by afeht   ( 1166 ) on Nov-18-07 at 22:41:47 PST   Listings
Rainer,

OK, i won't. But I am so used to be able to edit posts that I feel embarrassed about typos and HTML code errors.
Posted by afeht   ( 1166 ) on Nov-18-07 at 22:39:29 PST   Listings
Matthew>/B>,

Double-fugitive purples and greens, I know! Still, if one collects used stamps, one must make an effort to find the brightest/deepest colors (and with a nice postmark on top of it if possible) -- which is clearly a challenge when it comes to Jubilee set and EdVII issues.

The only difficulty with having all these shades in MLH condition is money. But spending so much just to have a reference set for comparison, in order to put together a used set? Well... [scratching my head and thinking of my wife's face].

I've seen and sold mint EVII stamps many times, so I have a good idea about purples and greens. Most of my current used copies are very close if a bit faded. Three or four aren't good enough but I'll find them...

Cannot stay in a big city more than a few days: I begin to feel depressed, even sick. Not in every big city, Paris and St. Petersburg don't affect me so much, but New York, London and Moscow certainly do. So, when go to Moscow and stop over in London, it is a very short stay -- I need to arrive into Moscow still in a functioning state. But I will make an effort next time to see the Windsor collection, and to look into Gibbons' shop.

P.S. Didn't expect modern France to sell that high. I'd rather expect the other, classic French lot to attract more interest, because it contains a 4-margined #2 that I bought from notorious Apfelbaum years ago. But there are no bidders.
Posted by matthew1999   ( 176 ) on Nov-18-07 at 20:11:35 PST   Listings
Alex,

I've always had the strong feeling the GB colour guide is intended for Machins, not KEVII.

Looking at your scans, you have made a valiant effort to identify the colours but you are hampered by two things: first, all used stamps have been soaked in water at some point, and all the green and violet inks were specially constituted to be doubly fugitive (i.e. fade in either water or solvent). Second, you are lacking other colour-identified stamps to compare them to. Forget literature - you need stamps! If you ever get to London, go visit SG's shop in the Strand. Best way to learn colours.

I have dozens of used stamps of that series (bought cheaply in bulk when I lived in Prague) whose shades I am unable to identify for those two reasons.

BTW, years ago I made up a concordance of Scott, SG and Michel numbers for QV. Sometime in the near future I will add KEVII and if you like, I can send you a copy.

PS. Congrats on the France collection that went for $260. It looks nice. I forgot to raise my bid near the end :-(

Mh
Posted by 22028   ( 1665 ) on Nov-18-07 at 20:07:27 PST   Listings
Alex, for goodness sake, to not complain about not having a WYSIWYG editor here, otherwise we end up like the ebay Germany board which was implemented into the useless "so called" community family...
BTW: The alternative ebay.de cafe is found here:
http://www.briefmarkencafe.de
Posted by 22028   ( 1665 ) on Nov-18-07 at 20:02:28 PST   Listings
Yesterday I posted here on the board that the Tibet collection:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=250176681571
Had only 3 hours to run, it had already bid up to over $ 500 and ebay took no action till then despite my severla reminders since there is nothing genuine in the collection...
Today morning i noted that the coeltion has gone.., thanks ebay.
Now I am waiting as usual for the negative voting form the seller on my Tibet guides...
http://search.reviews.ebay.com/members/22028_W0QQuqtZg
Posted by peterc8888   ( 362 ) on Nov-18-07 at 20:00:00 PST   Listings
Linda

Thanks. I guess you're right.


PC
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 520 ) on Nov-18-07 at 19:55:11 PST   Listings
PeterC88 my guess is his $78 bid didnt reach the reserve and his $100 did.

Linda
Posted by afeht   ( 1166 ) on Nov-18-07 at 19:54:05 PST   Listings
David,

Yes, I also think it's a reprint. Paper is wrong, color is suspicious, margins too wide. But all the details of the design are correct -- so, presumably, the original die was used.

Thank you.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8707 ) on Nov-18-07 at 19:52:36 PST   Listings
Alex,

http://cgi.ebay.com/Argentina-Buenos-Aires-Reprints_W0QQitemZ200174042028QQihZ010QQcategoryZ695QQcmdZViewItem


be back in about 2 hours,

David B
Posted by afeht   ( 1166 ) on Nov-18-07 at 19:50:42 PST   Listings
David,

Re: washed-out 2d. Yes, I know. It's supposed to be yellowish green but I still couldn't find a brighter one (without some kind of smudge instead of a cancel) among 70 or so copies. I always keep looking.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8707 ) on Nov-18-07 at 19:49:54 PST   Listings
Alex,

just reread your post and noticed you stated yours is perf. 12 1/2. I think I read somewhere years ago that the perf. 12 1/2 is a forgery.

Sorry about the rushed answer before but I have just come back from shopping, allowing 10 minutes at home then I have to go out again for a few hours,

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8707 ) on Nov-18-07 at 19:46:12 PST   Listings
Alex, by the colour, the paper, the impression and I have seen them in large blocks and they are nothing like the originals. The originals are all on poor quality paper whilst the reprints are on a much thicker fine wove paper,

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8707 ) on Nov-18-07 at 19:44:20 PST   Listings
Alex,

re the Finland Red Cross, Gibbons mentions the remainder stocks were perf. 13 1/2 and presumably has had a fake cancel applied,

David B.
Posted by afeht   ( 1166 ) on Nov-18-07 at 19:43:30 PST   Listings
David,

How do you know this Buenos Aires is a reprint? By what indications?
Posted by afeht   ( 1166 ) on Nov-18-07 at 19:42:20 PST   Listings
God, this board's interface is ancient! eBay could afford to upgrade to nested threads and WYSYWIG HTML, as in their item descriptions.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8707 ) on Nov-18-07 at 19:42:13 PST   Listings
Alex,

the Buenos Ayres is a much later reprint.

I had a look at the KEVII's and will have a closer look later when I have more time.

I noticed the 1st. 2d. has been water affected and the colour has been changed. I can't explain the deep 1/2d. but I suspect that it may have also been affected by something.

David B.
Posted by afeht   ( 1166 ) on Nov-18-07 at 19:39:44 PST   Listings
wrd3>/B

Exactly. Description in The Album Weeds
is a bit more detailed than by Serrane (I have it, too, and in original two volumes!), but in both cases everything seems to conform except the margins. What prevents me, then, from narrowing the margins and proclaiming it a genuine fake?
Posted by peterc8888   ( 362 ) on Nov-18-07 at 19:36:47 PST   Listings
Can someone explain to me what happens to this bid?

PC
Posted by jaywild   ( 1020 ) on Nov-18-07 at 18:35:18 PST   Listings
NOIP I’ve been trying to figure this rate out, but can’t. First of all, I don’t see how it could be insured without being registered, at that rate. (Insurance by itself only covered up to $200 value, at a maximum cost of 35¢.) Airmail at the time seems to have been 6¢, and registration maxed out at $1, for up to $1,000 coverage. So what was the extra 44¢ for?

Even more disturbing is that there appears to have been something removed at top left, which renders the cover unappetizing to me.

Jim
Posted by wrd3   ( 100 ) on Nov-18-07 at 18:30:20 PST   Listings
afeht according to The Serrane Guide, "The stamp margins are always very narrow; only 1/2 to 3/4 mm between stamps." Your stamp looks to have margins that are too large. It does appear to conform to th eother 6 identification keys listed in the book.

Bill D.
Posted by afeht   ( 1165 ) on Nov-18-07 at 18:16:23 PST   Listings
Re: Buenos Aires stamp

I carefully compared this stamp with descriptions in Album Weeds, and cannot find anything wrong with it. However, it just "feels" like a fake.

Could anybody tell me if this is a fake, and if it is, why?
Posted by afeht   ( 1165 ) on Nov-18-07 at 18:10:36 PST   Listings
Re: First semi-postal stamp of Finland (Red Cross)

Here's a bit of a conundrum.

All catalogs (Scott, Facit, etc.) list a normal stamp perforated 14, and a later-issued variety perforated 13x13-1/2.

I haven't come across a 13x13-1/2 stamp yet but this one is perforated 12-1/2 all around. It appears to be genuinely used. Normal stamp is on the left.

Does anybody know, what do I have here?
Posted by jaywild   ( 1020 ) on Nov-18-07 at 17:24:23 PST   Listings
NOIP… Rats. A very unusual item, overseas surface rate between 2 and 3 ounces, non-philatelic. (5¢ first ounce, 3¢ for 1-2 oz, 3¢ for 2-3.) Never seen one of these before.

Jim
Posted by afeht   ( 1165 ) on Nov-18-07 at 16:35:01 PST   Listings
Oh, and that "magenta on chalked paper" is to the right from SG 297 on the second-to-last page (if you have a narrow screen, you might want to scroll to the right).

There is also a very strange blue shade of 1/2p on the right side of the third row on the 1st page. I couldn't identify it. It may be a color changeling but doesn't look faded or smudged in any respect.

Please take into account that I've been sorting these for 30 years, and that every stamp on this scan is just "the most representative IMO" of dozens (sometimes hundreds) of the same-shade copies.

Thanks in advance for any help!
Posted by afeht   ( 1165 ) on Nov-18-07 at 16:23:16 PST   Listings
To all:

Yes, thank you, of course I have Gibbons 4 Kings. I also have Gibbons Color Guide. The problem is, I am not sure I identify these shades correctly; having a catalog doesn't help much. I feel that only having a reference collection to compare would help in some cases.
Posted by afeht   ( 1165 ) on Nov-18-07 at 16:19:58 PST   Listings
Re: EDWARD VII SHADES

Here is a scan of my EVII shades, one of each (after sorting out hundreds of duplicates): EDWARD VII SHADES

They are placed by SG Concise numbers, with Scott numbers referenced (I decided not to go by Michel Grossbritanien Spezial, because incompatibilities between 3 catalogs become too complicated).

I don't know how colors would reflect on various screens but please, if you know, tell me where I am wrong and why. I am a bit confused about these stamps.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1055 ) on Nov-18-07 at 15:59:08 PST   Listings
Afeht

Gibbons 4 Kings:

M31 6d purple on ordinary paper. De La Rue
M32 6d purple on chalk-surfaced paper
M33 6d purple on ordinary paper. Somerset House
M34(1) 6d dull purple on Dickinson-coated paper
M34(2) 6d dull reddish purple on Dickinson-coated paper
M35 6d bright magenta on chalky paper
M36 6d deep plum on chalky paper

M35 is the one to go for.
Only in use for one day, uncatalogued as used.
Fluoresces as well.
Posted by malolo   ( 865 ) on Nov-18-07 at 15:52:08 PST   Listings
Paolo -
Good research. );>)

It is a Bern printing, the heavy filled in lines on the neck and shoulders are the primary characteristics, plus the dullbrown color, characteristic of the thin paper. All thin paper colors are dull copies of the Bern printing because the pressure of the press didn't force the ink into the paper, AND THE EMBOSSING IS NON-Existant. If you look at the seller's other auctions, you will see a 40 centimes Munich printing showing excellent embossing. Even though it is thin paper, it is not as thin as the thin Bern paper. Remember the thin papers are not a separate print run, but rejects pulled out by quality control and stored, then reintroduced to post offices during a period of stamp shortages starting in mid-1856.

It will go to Switzerland for a certificate, which I hope it will get.

Roger.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 654 ) on Nov-18-07 at 15:50:48 PST   Listings
I'M OUTTA HERE!
After 8 years I finally realize you guys are way to far above me.
Posted by knuden   ( 2396 ) on Nov-18-07 at 15:44:24 PST   Listings
Peace - Booklet with stamps issued in remembrance of the liberation of Denmark May 5, 1945. The stamps shows a blackout curtain, which are been teared down an candles in a window (we put candels in all our windows May 5 each year.)
The designer of the stamps is our Queen Margrethe II.
Peace - Front of the booklet showing the armband the Danish members of the liberation movement wore just after the liberation.
I lost an uncle during the war - he was captured by the nazis, tortured and later shot.

K.E  I'm a catalog queen, expert and philatelist - whoopee!!


Posted by bjornmu   ( 951 ) on Nov-18-07 at 15:40:54 PST   Listings
I don't remember who complained here about the unhelpul subject of the eBay end-of-auction emails "You won on eBay!".

I guess there were some complaints, so now the item title and # are again in the Subject of the emails! :-)
Posted by dbenson   ( 8707 ) on Nov-18-07 at 15:09:17 PST   Listings
Paul, for some reason I cannot open your scan.

Alex, do you have Gibbons Four Kings catalogue, it is much more detailed than the others,

David B.
Posted by vonbag   ( 207 ) on Nov-18-07 at 15:06:38 PST   Listings
For something different, I took out one of those difficult stamps of mine, and did some further research with the help of my Italian friends here:
http://forum.filateliaefrancobolli.it/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=1683

This stamp has a peculiar "history": first judged fake cancel by one of the best experts there are, was later seen by other cultors of Tuscany cancels who moved me to do some deeper research. Even though it bears a photocertificate, and I have the feel the cancel is genuine (for comparison with others of the same type : still didn't find one of SEP 1861, leaving alone the day 30)
I am not yet sure of genuinity.
Will see if some other names I have in mind will say theirs on that matter (eventually with an example).

Paolo

Posted by dbenson   ( 8707 ) on Nov-18-07 at 14:57:52 PST   Listings
paul, could you show scans of both covers, both sides. I would presume that " overland mail " & " overland route " are the same but different terminologies.

Alex, a scan would help although colours of the 6d. can be very tricky, especially used,

David B.
Posted by vonbag   ( 207 ) on Nov-18-07 at 14:56:49 PST   Listings
P.S. Roger,
if it wouldn't be that, a 22F rather than an 22A, even though the grey component seems to be predominant, it certainly remains a nice looking copy, lightly cancelled with blue lozenge of lines, which makes it more desirable?
I still have to study the Strubel Issue, as I got swamped somewhere with postage due stamps ;-)
Numbers above are from Zumstein Spezial...

[between abundant brackets: I wonder when they will organize this catalogue a little better, with clearer descriptions, colours photographs, following the line of Michel and the other Zumstein simplified, that besides being of help in a quick search, are also very attractive for newbies, and a little less typos so to render the Errata Corrige at the end of Volume II a little less thick (I have the 2000 edition).]
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Nov-18-07 at 14:54:23 PST   Listings
SCAN FOR DAVID
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Nov-18-07 at 14:52:51 PST   Listings
DAVID B. ----Not sure of the final destination,but its back stamped in a circlaur date stamp Beruit 23-6-24 .

Whats it telling me is that the government was using the Overland Mail and the back of the other cover is telling me the foreign consulates were using the Overland Route ....maybe

Posted by afeht   ( 1165 ) on Nov-18-07 at 14:47:06 PST   Listings
Re: GB EVII 6d deep plum shade (Somerset House printing)

Both SG Concise and Specialized list this shade as on "chalked paper." Scott Classic lists this shade under "Ordinary Paper" section.

Am I to believe Gibbons, not Scott? If so, why do I have a copy that is most probably of "deep plum" shade, based on the color samples in Stanley Gibbons Stamp Guide, but on ordinary paper? Can it be that SG is in error?

Also, I have magenta EVII on chalked paper, used in August 1911. which is impossible according to both catalogs: both list magenta as mint only (non-issued), and it has been printed in 1913. Probably what I have is a wash-out, though it looks pretty bright and sharp.

I admit these Edward VII shades are difficult. Probably even more difficult than Germania 1905-1923 shades. At least Michel Color Guide is systematic and detailed enough to be helpful. Cannot say the same about SG's guide. (Heil Farbenführer!)
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Nov-18-07 at 14:40:12 PST   Listings
yea,will sleep tonight .Let me scan the other
Posted by dbenson   ( 8707 ) on Nov-18-07 at 14:37:35 PST   Listings
Paul, you haven't lost anything, the Switzerland to Texas is worth at least $3.50 and the Iraq cover was a good buy at $10 even though it is after the period that Ranier collects. It has good franking and a better cancel and you neglected to mention or show the German Consular marking on it, feel better now,

David B.
Posted by vonbag   ( 207 ) on Nov-18-07 at 14:35:38 PST   Listings
Roger,
Probably because it's not a Munich printing!
It looks like a printing of 1856 (Bern) 'emergency' on thin paper (seidenpapier) and green silk thread on thin paper!
1. closely spaced stamps (- yours was a top sheet margin copy, and still bears portion of it -);
2. colour is more on the grey brown rather than orange brown (Munich)...
Nice catch, if so!!!

Paolo


Posted by dbenson   ( 8707 ) on Nov-18-07 at 14:35:09 PST   Listings
Paulk, just show it, I can't wait til next week, the suspense is killing me,

David B.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Nov-18-07 at 14:31:32 PST   Listings
DAVID B. -----Wait until I can get it translated during the week but depress over the great lost to my stamp budget .
Posted by dbenson   ( 8707 ) on Nov-18-07 at 14:27:02 PST   Listings
Paul, waiting for the scan of th last cover, the one that has some Arabic markings,

David B.
Posted by infla-alec   ( 561 ) on Nov-18-07 at 14:26:14 PST   Listings
Oh well sometimes the answers come from two minds thinking alike at the same time. Still at least you now know the answer Rich.
How such commercial rates were applied I do not know but as Bjorn correctly stated it was a reduced special rate. Wether that applied to Inland mail only or was applicable to Foreign mail or even both I don't know.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Nov-18-07 at 14:21:27 PST   Listings
RICH-----O.T. on czech stamps are for newspapers so its a newspaper stamp
Posted by infla-alec   ( 561 ) on Nov-18-07 at 14:20:53 PST   Listings
Rich The Czech OT overprint stands for "O"bchodni "T"iskovina meaning commercial printed matter. It is found on Newspaper stamps from 1934.
Posted by bjornmu   ( 951 ) on Nov-18-07 at 14:20:05 PST   Listings
Rich, it's not an airmail stamp, it's a newspaper stamp from 1918/19 overprinted O.T. in 1934. Michel says something about "reduced postal rates for commercial printed matter". It doesn't say what the O and the T stand for.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Nov-18-07 at 14:13:02 PST   Listings
DAVID B. ----Im depressed over the other two covers ,one was the wrong time period{cost $10.00} and the other was over-priced at $3.50 as told me on this board ,now im too depress to open the auction lots I purchased for $15,000.00 ,can't get over loseing $3.50 on the Swiss razor cancel .I may not sleep tonight .
Posted by richintalent   ( 147 ) on Nov-18-07 at 14:05:51 PST   Listings
In a recent packet of stamps I came across what I suppose to be an old Czech airmail stamp [line drawing of a bird with 'POSTA CESKO SLOVENSKO' around the margin]. What made this stand out is an 'OT' overprint. What was this and what did the 'OT' stand for? as for me i'll be facing another Thanksgiving alone. 'Now is the winter of our discontent.' [Richard III]
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Nov-18-07 at 13:49:55 PST   Listings
MITCH-----I think you were out for recess when the school discussed the reason for THANKSGIVING ---------It a thanks to the Almight {the one who deals out the cards--remember} not some feel good holiday
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Nov-18-07 at 13:36:53 PST   Listings
PIECE on this chat board
Posted by malolo   ( 865 ) on Nov-18-07 at 13:34:42 PST   Listings
Paolo (or anyone else who wants to try) -

Why did I buy this stamp? )'>)

Roger

Posted by malolo   ( 865 ) on Nov-18-07 at 13:29:54 PST   Listings
Aloha -
It's highly unlikely the Swiss population in general knew the bankers were holding so much monies collected by Nazis and deposited in the banks. I think it unlikely most Americans know the international investment portfolios of major US banks, or where these billions of deposits originate. Did anyone think of oil producing countries? Loans for armaments, etc, is a profitable business to countries which feel the need to "defend" themselves. !

Let's add a human aspect of Swiss treatment of POW's, especially officers. French POW's, of 1870, and Allied POW's of WWI were granted "freedom" to stay unconfined on their word of honor that they wouldn't try to escape Switzerland. This can be documented in Swiss postal history. The POW's who remained confined to their housing, small hotels or guest houses, were provided free mail priviledges, those officers, etc, who were "free" did not, and had to pay postage for all their letters.

Geneva was Red Cross headquarters where volunteers kept the lists, tabulated information, and directed mail to the POW camps built by the antogonists. POW's of each side recieved mail because Swiss people helped keep a line of communication open.

Roger

Posted by afeht   ( 1165 ) on Nov-18-07 at 12:45:47 PST   Listings
Interesting! I didn't see that message by smudger_the_ink while preparing mine. Parallel thinking.
Posted by afeht   ( 1165 ) on Nov-18-07 at 12:43:47 PST   Listings
Re: 1945 Peace set shown by antonius-ra

One cannot help but notice that the Swiss. having been spared most of the WWII atrocities, could enjoy peace in more comfort than other nations, especially after quietly peculating all that Jewish money and gold deposited in their banks by the National Socialists.

Pax vobiscum!
Posted by smudger_the_ink   ( 1 ) on Nov-18-07 at 12:41:47 PST   Listings
antonius-ra Mitchell, I find it incredible that you would post an image of stamps from Switzerland issued just after WWII and highlight the Peace aspect of these stamps.

Of the many people on this board I regard you as one of the more enlightened regarding European history and especially Switzerlands attitude to Germany during the 1930's and during WWII.

For years after the end of the war Switzerlands banks refused to open up their books to show where stolen Nazi loot was and for years after the end of the war they refused to recognise deposits made by people fleeing Nazi Germany.

The one country that should live in eternal shame for what it has done.

Larry



Posted by smudger_the_ink   ( 1 ) on Nov-18-07 at 12:32:23 PST   Listings
Testing
Posted by afeht   ( 1165 ) on Nov-18-07 at 12:21:26 PST   Listings
Mitchell,

I am all for peace and positive thinking. But I hope being peaceful doesn't mean that I have to agree with everything other people assume as 100% true.

For example, as much as I like Lincoln as a person, and as much as I understand all the grievous shortcomings of the South, Lincoln's Gettysburg Address won't scour with me. Can't join the Fawning Choir -- sorry!

IMO, the South should have been left alone, and allowed to go it's own way -- provided any people wanting to relocate to the North, including blacks, would be permitted to do so. That would be fair and just, and would save thousands of brave lives. No, I cannot agree with Sly Old Abe.

Moreover, "government of the people, by the people, for the people," if it ever existed, has long perished from the Earth. It's the "government of the government, by the government, for the government" now.

Having said this, I still give thanks to America for saving my life and accepting me as I am, without forcing me to say or to do anything against my conscience. It is still the freest country in the world, comparatively. And one still can lead a decent life here without dissembling or playing spaniel, though independence is becoming more and more expensive every day.

Therefore -- though there is probably no God -- God bless America!
Posted by bjornmu   ( 951 ) on Nov-18-07 at 12:21:12 PST   Listings
Stamps in the news: the Königsberg letter, franked with a 7-strip, a 4-block and a single of Norway #1, was just sold for NOK 2.7 million ($500,000).

48sk was the double-weight rate for zone 3 for letters going via ship to Hamburg during the summer season.

Posted by keleofa   ( 3604 ) on Nov-18-07 at 12:20:00 PST   Listings
PEACE

Matt in Arizona
Posted by keleofa   ( 3604 ) on Nov-18-07 at 12:08:20 PST   Listings
Sprite,

A grill is a small screen (like a waffle iron) pressed into the stamp paper. It is usually very obvious. Hold the stamp at an angle to the light.

Matt in Arizona
Posted by sprite.336   ( 32 ) on Nov-18-07 at 12:00:03 PST   Listings
what is a grill, is it a water mark im new at this lol
someone please help
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Nov-18-07 at 11:45:09 PST   Listings
OOPS View for Jaywild there in that scan too

oct 5 1900
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Nov-18-07 at 11:42:50 PST   Listings
Roger
I see many different countries in this time period
any just regualar uses you are looking for

I got this Mexico for the RPO mark

Indiscint

Mexico had some like this but I did not run into good ones this batch....Clear strikes are a challenge

Posted by jaywild   ( 1020 ) on Nov-18-07 at 11:03:48 PST   Listings
Iomoon… Thank you for posting that. At the time, Lincoln truly felt his speech would never be remembered. As he sat down after delivering it, to a smattering of applause, he turned to his old political friend Ward Lamon and said “That speech won’t scour.” (An allusion to the utility of a plow—a plow that won’t scour will get caked in mud and soon be useless.) One Chicago newspaper sniffed that the speech was “dish-watery”.

It was left to posterity to understand and appreciate the sublime beauty of those words.

Jim
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 654 ) on Nov-18-07 at 11:00:25 PST   Listings
E U S C
Ebay Users Stamp Club Meeting


Announcement


The EUSC meeting for November 2007 will commence at 12:00 Midnight (ebay time) November 23rd and end midnight November 25th. The meetings topic will focus on Revenue stamps of the world. This will also include proprietary, hunting etc.
Basically any stamps that were used to pay taxes and or fees (other than mail transport).
Members are invited and encouraged to share their revenue stamps and any related items and knowledge.



Happy Stampin,

Mitchell aka Antonius Ra

President EUSC



Posted by hi-r-luv   ( 1203 ) on Nov-18-07 at 10:57:58 PST   Listings
iomoon,
On his way to give that speech, Lincoln's train stopped in my home town and addressed the crowd. Unfortunately what he said there was not recorded but the Gettysburg Address is one for the ages.

See, I'm not that bad.

Larry
Posted by iomoon   ( 1055 ) on Nov-18-07 at 10:51:19 PST   Listings
Seeing as I cannot vote in the US and would prefer not to continue this political thread, I note tomorrow is the 144th anniversary of one of the most eloquent speeches ever uttered on American soil.

It consists of but 10 sentences and 272 words.

" Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.

Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation, so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.

But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate—we can not consecrate—we can not hallow—this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us — that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion — that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain — that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom — and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth. "
Posted by malolo   ( 865 ) on Nov-18-07 at 10:48:26 PST   Listings
due2cents -
Funchal is a Güller, I'm 99.9% certain, but havven't seen it in the proof books to confirm. Portugal and colonies go back to early 1880's with Swiss manufacturer.

Roger
Posted by infla-alec   ( 561 ) on Nov-18-07 at 10:29:04 PST   Listings
Due 80Pf single franking from that date is the correct rate for a foreign postcard. Can you tell if the stamp is with cross on crown or without ? The stamp is also known in two colours but that I'm afraid is way outside my area of knowledge. Plus defining colours from scans is virtually impossible.

Afeht I am aware of what you collect. I was simply asking that perpaps you may wish to show some of your material here. Stamps worldwide pre 1940 I think is very interesting for many. Ok many of us may not collect it but it is always nice to see.
I also have no intention of getting involved in any political debates here or anywhere else for that matter.
I for one am more than happy to see both Rainer and Knud continue posting here. Both are very serious philatelists and over the years have shared many of their collecting interests here. That is something I wish everyone would do more often.

This board has already lost one very experienced philatelist namely "Deckelmouk". I dread to think how many others have seeing petty squabbles, decided not to participate here also.

Already ebay has closed down many of the other boards, ( just like this one) from other ebay sites worldwide and the way things are going here it won't be too long before they change things here also to their new so called "community chat" style set up. I'd hope that doesn't happen but sadly I feel it is only a matter of time before it does. Luckily enough the German ebay group of regular posters have managed to set up their own stamp Cafe. Yes it is used more as a chat board than a message board but at least there you very rarely see personal attacks, or political statements being made.
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Nov-18-07 at 10:28:34 PST   Listings
Here are three more
interesting uses

Plate Number Single Nice

Funchal Perfin neat

Mexico 2 types of Overprint

TRIO_O_PHUN
Posted by dbenson   ( 8707 ) on Nov-18-07 at 10:26:13 PST   Listings
Paul, presumably also badly written Postmaster and not Port Master,

David B.
Posted by stamphick!   ( 338 ) on Nov-18-07 at 10:22:15 PST   Listings
hi-r-luv...I wasn't referring to that but to your can opener remark which caused a big media brouhaha some time ago.
Posted by jaywild   ( 1020 ) on Nov-18-07 at 10:10:51 PST   Listings
D2… You are correct, a Sütterlin/European style “W” in New Braunfels. The Spanish word for new is “nuevo” (masculine) or “nueva” (feminine).

Jim
Posted by dbenson   ( 8707 ) on Nov-18-07 at 10:05:10 PST   Listings
Paul, it looks like a badly written W in NEW.

Could I see a full scan of the lower cover in your trio of covers,

David B.
Posted by hi-r-luv   ( 1203 ) on Nov-18-07 at 10:05:02 PST   Listings
Hey, just being a PATRIOT.

BTW, I didn't say it was my idea, but I almost rear ended the car in front of me when I first saw it.

Larry
Posted by jaywild   ( 1020 ) on Nov-18-07 at 09:56:24 PST   Listings
Yep folks, it’s Ugly American Day on the chatboard again. Might as well find something useful to do until the blowhards blow away…

Jim
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Nov-18-07 at 09:47:41 PST   Listings
Stamp Hick

I saw it on a BUMPER yesterday.

JAYWLD maybe reading this book.
1941

or this one
ART


ALEX Cancel in THISLINK

I just bought a bunch of Germany stuff, But alas not to much Infla.......

Posted by stamphick!   ( 338 ) on Nov-18-07 at 09:37:37 PST   Listings
hi-r-luv...It's not nice to steal someone else's line and claim it as your own.
Posted by thebriguy1   ( 64 ) on Nov-18-07 at 09:36:30 PST   Listings
Here we go again.....

Posted by afeht   ( 1165 ) on Nov-18-07 at 09:24:01 PST   Listings
Infla-alec:

Admonitions, admonitions... If Rainer, Knud & Co. wouldn't assume that everybody and his dog must share their European tunnel vision of the world, political discussion wouldn't even arise here.

As to the stamps, I have explained my collecting interests twice already. As soon as I see anything I can help with or that really interests me stamp-wise, I contribute my 2 kopecks, don't you worry.

hi-r-luv:

Yeah, you do that. Because if you'd force somebody else to buy a can opener for your parents, that would be a robbery, wouldn't it? (even if it were written in the law)
Posted by jaywild   ( 1020 ) on Nov-18-07 at 09:06:01 PST   Listings
Paul… I can’t resist…

In your touching story about your poker game with God, he pulled five aces out of that pack of cards.

Good health—one ace.
Good wife—second ace.
Good kids—third ace.
Good job—fourth ace.
Enviable stamp collection—fifth ace.

So either God was playing with a funky deck or he just said he was God and you believed him.

Jim
Posted by hi-r-luv   ( 1203 ) on Nov-18-07 at 09:00:44 PST   Listings
I have been catching up on the postings this morning and I'm so glad I did. You have given me a great gift idea for my elderly fixed income parents... a new can opener (to open their dog food)

Remember LIFE'S A B*TCH (DON'T VOTE FOR ONE)
Posted by jimbo   ( 417 ) on Nov-18-07 at 08:51:46 PST   Listings
NOIP,
Congratulations to our friend matthew1999 who has an article in the NYTimes today:Values on Rise for Rare Collectibles (free registration required). He notes the fabulous realization of the C3a sold this past week by Siegel Auctions.

jimbo
Posted by infla-alec   ( 561 ) on Nov-18-07 at 08:46:25 PST   Listings
Due2 Sorry no I didn't see it & can't find it.Either I'm tired or going blind :-) Can you please post the link again ?
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Nov-18-07 at 08:41:43 PST   Listings
INFLA-A

Did you notice my 80pf
to US solo use card below
Posted by infla-alec   ( 561 ) on Nov-18-07 at 08:34:19 PST   Listings
Gordo Just above the yellow box a few messages down it tells you how to post an image here as a link. If you still don't know how or are having difficulty please say so here and someone will I'm sure be able to help.
Or contact me via ebay and I will give you my e-mail address where you can send the scan to and I will upload the image and post it here for you.
Posted by infla-alec   ( 561 ) on Nov-18-07 at 08:23:13 PST   Listings
Gordo It might help get a response if you could scan and show an image of the item you are asking about.
Posted by 22028   ( 1665 ) on Nov-18-07 at 08:19:48 PST   Listings
infla-alec, thanks. The cover is of lesser interest because the route instruction is only a manuscript (typewriter) marking and secondly, the cover is from the late period where no overland mail surcharge was required. On 7. March 1929 all overland mail surcharges were abolished.
Posted by gordosauctions   ( 2143 ) on Nov-18-07 at 08:18:20 PST   Listings
Hello all! This is my first visit. I need some advice. I have a sheet of 10-10 cent stamps. They each feature the work of a famous artist i.e. Raphael,Donne,Liotard. The set is framed & is numbered with an autograph underneath. Does anyone have any ideas?? Thanks, gordo
Posted by infla-alec   ( 561 ) on Nov-18-07 at 08:03:29 PST   Listings
Rainer The overland cover of Paul is below in an earlier post. But to save you searching here it is again. Though I think you would want to see a scan of that cover by itself.

Alex Besides making political comments how about showing some of your collecting interests ? You don't need to say much about anything you show if you don't want to. But as you can see discussing politics on a stamp board doesn't go down to well.
Posted by 22028   ( 1665 ) on Nov-18-07 at 07:57:13 PST   Listings
This Tibet collection I had reported several times but no action was taken.., only 3 hours to go...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=250176681571
There is nothing genuine in the collection...
Posted by severnstampco   ( 72 ) on Nov-18-07 at 07:54:50 PST   Listings
watermarked (Bert), meostamps (Mike):

Thank you for your input! I have heard of that book being mentioned Bert since my question stumped my favorite local dealer. I was told to find that book indeed by him.

Again, I try to find correctly franked KGV Silver Jubilee covers to study the various marking to get a liberal education. Still trying to find out what the differences/similarities are between Annex, Station, branch, substations ...

All in all, thank you Bert and Mike! Jeffry
Posted by 22028   ( 1665 ) on Nov-18-07 at 07:53:51 PST   Listings
stamps12345, could you please show a scan of the German Consulate cover transported by the Overland Mail you had bought?
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Nov-18-07 at 07:50:47 PST