eBay chatboard archive: Dec-17-07 to Dec-23-07 week

Posted by jaywild   ( 1033 ) on Dec-23-07 at 23:43:13 PST   Listings
To all in the Antipodes… To those who partake, or even those who don’t, I wish all a MERRY CHRISTMAS!! now, because when it hits your shores, some 5+ hours from now, I plan to be asleep.



Jim
Posted by dbenson   ( 8772 ) on Dec-23-07 at 23:29:45 PST   Listings
Department stores closed 1/2 hour ago for Xmas and I just heard a news report that this years Xmas shopping hit a new record. I believe it as I was shopping today and saw the crowds. Boxing Day sales begin in 2 days, that will also be a record,

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8772 ) on Dec-23-07 at 22:55:34 PST   Listings
Roly, thanks, forget the Kiwis, try BPA or Royal London,

David B.

Posted by jaywild   ( 1033 ) on Dec-23-07 at 22:19:50 PST   Listings
Greg I… Please let us know if your searches return to normal tomorrow.

Jim
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 557 ) on Dec-23-07 at 22:16:36 PST   Listings
g.1 Greg when I had the 'new search' feature, I could opt out by clicking a link at the very bottom of the search page. That was a few months ago, don't know if it is still the case. I opted out, so only get 'old search' pages, but all the Stamps / Australia / States I tried worked.

Linda
Posted by g.1   ( 1173 ) on Dec-23-07 at 21:08:58 PST   Listings
Roly, it sounds like you got a clueless "We've never seen one before so it can't be real" opinion. Why don't this guys realize that "no opinion" is an option?

Greg
Posted by rolyrj   ( 7 ) on Dec-23-07 at 20:45:06 PST   Listings
David B.
I used the 'expertising' services of the miney grabbers here in NZ.... sghhhhhh

Should have known better and not blown cash down the gurgler :)

I won't give up on this one though and as someone else mentioned I may be at the start of a very long and narrow research road here. But i don't mind that.

Cheers

Roly
Posted by g.1   ( 1173 ) on Dec-23-07 at 19:33:48 PST   Listings
I just chatted with one of their live help guys. He says that the system is undergoing maitenance right now, which could cause some features to not work for some users. Hmmm. (Rebooting doesn't help.)

I bet they are introducing new stamps categories as part of the maintenance, and I'm just one of the first people to be seeing them.
Posted by stamphick!   ( 338 ) on Dec-23-07 at 19:28:02 PST   Listings
I too can go to several of those categories. Time to reboot.
Posted by wrd3   ( 100 ) on Dec-23-07 at 19:19:51 PST   Listings
g.1 when I go to the stamps category, then select Australia underneath stamps, I find an Australian States category within Australia. I forced the computer to reload the Australia page, the Australian States category was still there. Likewise I see a Postal History category underneath worldwide, and a publications (not sure if that's what you mean for literature) under Publications and Supplies,and a British Commonwealth Other as a main category. I think there's something funky with your system.

Bill D.
Posted by g.1   ( 1173 ) on Dec-23-07 at 19:14:40 PST   Listings
Try finding the categories for Literature. Postal History. British Commonwealth. All gone. The four categories I check every day all wiped out, replaced by totally generic categories. Some idiot has totally messed everything up.
Posted by g.1   ( 1173 ) on Dec-23-07 at 19:10:51 PST   Listings
Jim, I think the reason you can do that is your browser cache. That link takes me to the main stamps category. When I drill down, Australia is there but there's not Australian States subcategory.
Posted by jaywild   ( 1033 ) on Dec-23-07 at 19:08:53 PST   Listings
g.1… I was able to get into Australian States. (Link on left side.) Try rebooting your computer—could be a snag somewhere in your browser cache.

Jim
Posted by g.1   ( 1173 ) on Dec-23-07 at 18:53:27 PST   Listings
What in hell have they done to the stamps categories? They seem to have done away with literally every category I browse! Where, for example, is the category for Australian States? eBay's demented Christmas gift to us seems to have arrived early.
Posted by jaywild   ( 1033 ) on Dec-23-07 at 18:48:46 PST   Listings
Io… I have sworn to ignore any and all sesquipedalianism between now and Christmas…



Jim
Posted by iomoon   ( 1056 ) on Dec-23-07 at 18:30:01 PST   Listings
OK Paul

barstardized is perhaps an unkind word.

Reduced it to a semblance of its melodiferousness (oops, that could annoy Jim by using a long word) and omitting both grammar and spelling.

Duh, makes sense in almost any language and seems to be becoming a common denominator of internet communicators.
Posted by jaywild   ( 1033 ) on Dec-23-07 at 18:22:46 PST   Listings
Celestial Spectacle… If anyone wants to see an unusual occurrence, go outside and look at the Moon. Mars is about ¼ degree to the upper right, very, very close. You will need a night sky to see it!

Jim
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Dec-23-07 at 18:16:39 PST   Listings
BASTARDIZED Would not be the right word,,,,do you ever heard that the Cubans bastardized the Spanish language or that Mexico bastardized the Spanish language .....NO ...or that Black or Southern U.S. citizens bastardized the English language .....its a culture thing and each culture adjusts over time to the common useage of words to the area .

Its only in the past few years that a common language will develope with all the mass electronic communications and cross border trading.

Posted by dbenson   ( 8772 ) on Dec-23-07 at 18:12:27 PST   Listings
alex,

I didn't mean to infer private issues or locals, I meant variations of ordinary psotage stamps which aren't specifically catalogued but are well known to specialists.

David B.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1056 ) on Dec-23-07 at 17:56:27 PST   Listings
Good day all.

Just back from Penn State, with driving rain accomanying us the entire way.

Having been born under the King and then acquiring the Queen's English I am happy to state that it is one of the most versatile of languages, having been bastardized by several foreign countries and reduced to a mere semblance of its capabilities by a US "e" generation.

Hope that Paolo does not read the board before references to Sassone scroll off.
Posted by jaywild   ( 1033 ) on Dec-23-07 at 17:56:09 PST   Listings
Brad… I would dissuade you from cutting the stamps to release a plate block from a sheet. This will leave an unnaturally straight edge to the perforations, which will look very odd and also suggest reperforation.

The best thing to do would be to take the whole sheet, fold the edges of the block back and forth then tear it from the sheet carefully. This will leave nice “fuzzy” tips on the perforations which will not only disprove reperfing but also regumming, since that shows up especially well at perf tips.

Jim
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Dec-23-07 at 17:46:21 PST   Listings
BAYSIDE -----Congratulations on starting to collect worldwide even if it is up to 1940 .There are many people who are worldwide collectors and the numbers are growing.I also collect worldwide .This is a few years ago so naturally its much bigger ....paul
Posted by afeht   ( 1212 ) on Dec-23-07 at 16:27:42 PST   Listings
dbenson,

I don't collect private issues (as I don't collect revenues or covers) but I don't see what may have given you an impression that my intention would be to tell anyone what to collect. Hell, if only I'd have money, I would collect Rembrandt!

I know a man in Moscow who collects soap. Every damn bar of soap manufactured in the world since time immemorial. His apartment sure smells weird. And, believe it or not, there are dozens of his fellow soap collectors all over the world who exchange, buy, and sell those precious aromatic bars, and smell them, and lovingly store them in special rooms where they maintain the "just right" humidity, not too dry and not too humid.

However, when I ingeniously asked him if he collects liquid soap in siphon bottles, he looked at me as if I were stark mad: who in his right mind would collect stuff?
Posted by dbenson   ( 8772 ) on Dec-23-07 at 14:13:07 PST   Listings
Matthew, Alex,

there are many specialist articles and literature that mention various varieties and variations that are not mentioned even in footnotes of catalogues. It is up to the individual colector to make up his own mind whether they should be included in his collection. Personally I believe that all variations should be included,

Roly, sorry so long in asking about your certificate enquiry, Was the expertiser in NZ, GB or elsewhere,

David B.
Posted by bayside_philatelic   ( 2035 )   on Dec-23-07 at 14:12:32 PST   Listings
Thank you all for the answers to my questions. I wish everyone a happy holiday season!
Posted by matthew1999   ( 177 ) on Dec-23-07 at 13:03:54 PST   Listings
afeht, To collect or not to collect? That is the question! Catalog listing should not be the only criteria, I think... There are many private issues that are collectible, especially if they are not overpriced. Of course, it is hard to prove that it's contemporary, and not a modern laser-printed fantasy.

Just my due centesimi,
Mh
Posted by matthew1999   ( 177 ) on Dec-23-07 at 12:59:34 PST   Listings
Brad - Well, I was collecting stamps when I was eight years old... I know a little more now, but I'm still learning. That's what I enjoy about the hobby. No matter how much I learn, there's always more!
Posted by afeht   ( 1212 ) on Dec-23-07 at 12:59:14 PST   Listings
Stampsz

People on Italian philatelic forums (for example, here) say that "A.M.S." is a private overprint applied during the period of liberation, and could mean "Allied Mail Service" (AMS). Others say "American Government Militare Service." It is important to keep in mind that this is not an official overprint. I, for one, don't collect material not listed in major catalogs.
Posted by keleofa   ( 3659 ) on Dec-23-07 at 12:54:08 PST   Listings
Philatelic Christmas Presents

Matt in Arizona
Posted by brad   ( 474 ) on Dec-23-07 at 12:43:54 PST   Listings
Thanks Mh.

I assume that the 1999 in your handle refers to the year you became an eBay user, and not the year you were born, in which case I would feel really inadequate in my stamp knowledge (not that I don't anyway!)

Posted by brad   ( 474 ) on Dec-23-07 at 12:38:07 PST   Listings
Sorry, the HTML list stuff seems to add extra space when posted here...
Posted by matthew1999   ( 177 ) on Dec-23-07 at 12:37:41 PST   Listings
brad,

Those stamps are not old enough to be showing any aging, natural or otherwise. Stear clear! They have most likely been badly stored and are showing signs of exposure to light, moisture, acid paper, PVC, or worse. They are worth at most their face value -- with one of those and an additional 12 cents, you could still mail a first class letter.

Mh
Posted by brad   ( 474 ) on Dec-23-07 at 12:35:47 PST   Listings
Also, I am trying to catch up on modern US issues after a long time away from collecting, and facing some "self-adhesive issues". I tried googling for info with little success, so thought I would post a couple of questions here.



Does anyone have or seen a "soak-ability" list by Scott # for US stamps?
I'm talking which to soak or not, techniques, etc., similar to the Soak-o-meter (?) stuff I recall having seen in Linn's.


Is there a preferred method for extracting a plate block from a pane?
My first instinct is to use the surrounding stamps and then trim close rather than attempting to separate along the “perfs” in the backing paper.

Posted by brad   ( 474 ) on Dec-23-07 at 12:26:36 PST   Listings
Here is the lot number if anyone could see anything:
120200125494
Posted by matthew1999   ( 177 ) on Dec-23-07 at 12:24:37 PST   Listings
Stampsz, If it's this you're thinking of, I've never seen it. Don't have my Sassone or my Unificato at hand. If it's not listed in either of those, then it's probably a fake or a fantasy.

brad, sounds like a way to put a nice spin on what might otherwise be called staining, foxing, toning, fading or bent/creased perfs. Still, I suppose it beats "unnatural aging"...!

Mh
Posted by matthew1999   ( 177 ) on Dec-23-07 at 12:16:01 PST   Listings
bayside_philatelic,

Specialized catalogs from other countries will always contain a) much more detailed listings for the country they are published in and b) higher prices with the serious, high-end collectors of that country in mind. Remember, in many European cities, stamp shops range from the dusty, casual kind right up to luxurious affairs where they won't talk to you unless you're a known big spender. Also, nowadays you have a terrible euro/dollar exchange rate to contend with, too.

What afeht said about Sassone is pretty accurate. I collected Italy when I lived there in the 70s and I preferred the Unificato too.

Mh
Posted by sayasan   ( 737 ) on Dec-23-07 at 12:05:54 PST   Listings
amy mcdill - er, what's the question?
Posted by brad   ( 474 ) on Dec-23-07 at 12:02:00 PST   Listings
In regards to a modern US booklet pane, what would you make of the seller's description of "NATURAL AGING"?
Posted by dcderoo   ( 1713 ) on Dec-23-07 at 11:50:23 PST   Listings
jaywild, that agrees with what I was seeing.
Looks to be the correct definition.
Posted by keleofa   ( 3659 ) on Dec-23-07 at 11:48:08 PST   Listings
Stampsz,

If it's "A M G" it represents stamps issued for use by the Allied Military Gov't (WWII).

Matt in Arizona
Posted by stampsz   ( 463 ) on Dec-23-07 at 11:41:41 PST   Listings
Does anybody know what A M S overprinted on Italian stamps is?
Posted by jaywild   ( 1033 ) on Dec-23-07 at 10:15:58 PST   Listings
From Wikipedia…

"All ships in the Navy inventory are placed in the Naval Vessel Register, which tracks data such as the current status of a ship, the date of its commissioning, and the date of its decommissioning. Vessels that are removed from the register prior to disposal are said to be stricken from the register. The Navy also maintains a reserve fleet of inactive vessels that are maintained for reactivation in times of need."

Jim
Posted by jaywild   ( 1033 ) on Dec-23-07 at 10:09:04 PST   Listings
NOIP… Just a guess, but I believe “struck” refers to a ship that has been sold, either to a salvage yard or another nation, or some commercial entity, and thus has been struck from the Navy rolls. “Decommissioned” refers to a ship which has been retired to mothballs but remains property of the US Navy.

Jim
Posted by amymcdill   ( 131 ) on Dec-23-07 at 10:06:47 PST   Listings
i have a question,
Posted by dcderoo   ( 1713 ) on Dec-23-07 at 09:55:59 PST   Listings
nomad, that doesn't seem to be correct, at least with the usages I saw.
I believe you got the "decommissioned" part correct, but all the "struck" ships I saw were sold for salvage.
Something else going on which I haven't searched for yet.
Posted by nomad55   ( 953 ) on Dec-23-07 at 09:36:42 PST   Listings
dcd...I believe the diiference is as follows.
Struck - the ship has sunk or been destroyed during a war.
Decommissioned - the ship is outdated, obsolete, or surplus.
Posted by dcderoo   ( 1713 ) on Dec-23-07 at 09:11:11 PST   Listings
keleofa, thanks. I find that quite interesting.

While surfing up the names of some US Naval vessels I found that some are decommissioned and some are "struck" from the lists.
Now I need to find out the difference.
Usual situation. Research leads to more research.

Posted by afeht   ( 1212 ) on Dec-23-07 at 08:50:45 PST   Listings
Bayside,

I have Sassone. It's a luxury edition for wealthy collectors. It lists classic Italian stamps, and its prices are substantially higher than Scott's. The explanation given by catalog editors is that they value stamps in VF condition only, whereas Scott values stamps in F-VF condition. (To me, even Scott prices are ridiculously high.) Naturally, sellers tend to inflate CV to impress potential buyers; it's just a marketing gimmick. Sassone can be useful, because it lists many varieties and shades of classic Italy, which one cannot find in Scott or even in Michel. IMO, however, Unified catalog of Italian stamps ("Unificato") is better organized, more informative, and covers much more philatelic ground. Both catalogs are in Italian but are very easy to read. "Unificato" has a glossary of Italian philatelic terms translated into English, German, French, etc.

Sayasan,

Your observation is partly correct. Most of the people posting here "write as they speak." I spent 25 years preparing and typing written texts fit for printing. When I type, my mind automatically works in written, "publication-ready" English, not in colloquial spoken English. Hence the "pompous" impression.
Posted by keleofa   ( 3659 ) on Dec-23-07 at 08:42:08 PST   Listings
DC,

Receiving ship is fairly common, although there are some scarcer examples. This is from the Universal Ship Cancellation Society:

Receiving Ship

Matt in Arizona
Posted by bayside_philatelic   ( 2035 )   on Dec-23-07 at 08:38:54 PST   Listings
Stamps12345 - I understand completely about condition and value. I have collected strictly US issues for the past 15 years. I have only collected mint US stamps in VF condition. In the past month or two I have finely been bitten by the collecting worldwide issues bug. A few months ago I purchased a nice older entirely mint international collection formed in the 1940s on which I wish to build. My next goal is to start a used international collection in which I want to only collect stamps with bold clear CDS or slogan cancels, no CTOs. International collecting is totally new to me. I have a firm grip on the concept of condition but I am confused about the valuing assigned in different catalogues as Scott has always served my purpose for US issues. -Mike
Posted by dcderoo   ( 1713 ) on Dec-23-07 at 08:27:37 PST   Listings
Is there anything special about a

Receiving Ship Cancel vs. a normal ship's cancel?

Posted by sayasan   ( 737 ) on Dec-23-07 at 06:34:20 PST   Listings
afeht - As a professional translator, your (serving) Queen's English is pretty good. However, pardon me for saying, but your style is a bit pompous ...
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Dec-23-07 at 05:05:20 PST   Listings
BAYSIDE ----The seller of those Tuscany stamps has it priced to retail for the condition of those stamps ,why he added the catalog value of stamps in much better condition is a common sales trick ,used all over the stamp selling trade . If I were to buy those stamps from you ,my offer would be about $10.00 each which is about what the seller purchase them for. Remember he is in the business to make money from what he buys,not to supply customers with under priced stamps .
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Dec-23-07 at 04:48:53 PST   Listings
BAYSIDE -------There are many people who buy stamps base on what the catalog says it worth .There are also catalogs that make prices base on pie-in-the-sky pricing .

What your not watching is the poor quality of the stamp ,your looking at the price of a Mercedes Benz and buying a Chevy .Both have four tires and a steering wheel but when the time comes to sell your in for a surprise ......besides welcome to the board ,let us know about your collecting interest .....paul

Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Dec-23-07 at 04:36:02 PST   Listings
D1 Over the years you have impress me as one of the most knownledgeable and respected members of this community .Your one of the people who I would be happy to sit with and learn something from.

But this transaction with N.Y. STAMPS just caught you ,which also happens to everybody sooner or later.You got caught believeing in the Christmas Fairy .Lets look at this transaction .

Any collector viewing that auction would walk away from a listing that says----AS IS .

You were buying a rare and valueable stamp for a cheap opening price

Why would a establish and knownledgeable seller be selling a expensive stamp cheap?

What were you thinking ,the Christmas Fairy was letting you bid on a stamp that other experience collectors past up.

My quess is that you were bidding against other con artist who thought they could remarket that stamp and make a profit ,because most collectors smelled a rat .

Did it ever cross your mind that maybe a young clerk listed that stamp and didn't know what reback is ,but your blaming the owner who maybe never saw the stamp.

sit back and have a few more drinks of Yellow Tail

.....paul

Posted by bayside_philatelic   ( 2035 )   on Dec-23-07 at 04:26:01 PST   Listings
Has any one ever heard of the Sassone catalogue? How does it compare to the Scott catalogue? One particular seller on ebay quotes Sassone prices in his Italian states stamp auctions. The values quoted seem high compared to the values quoted in my Scotts catalogue. Is my assumption wrong? Here is one of his past sales in question: ebay # 230194261393 Thank you for any help.
Posted by de66   ( 1174 ) on Dec-23-07 at 00:34:00 PST   Listings
Lindy my Christmas twinkle

Ken Martin Deputy Executive Director of the American Philatelic Society is looking into it.

We will see.

Lucky i had had a wine and was feeling relaxed, or i would have really said what i thought.

D1
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 557 ) on Dec-22-07 at 22:58:17 PST   Listings
Oh D1,Dave, don't be shy, tell us how you really feel about the guy! :o)

you really should let APS know about the 'LifeMembership' claim!

Linda
Posted by de66   ( 1174 ) on Dec-22-07 at 22:45:55 PST   Listings
Stamps12345

Re NYSTAMPS:

Paul you best move away from the guy, like 100 yards.

He is an arse, NO contact at all other than "send it back", no point in even trying to be nice.

No refund after he got the lot back for 3 weeks! then Paypal had to rip my money back out of his account.

On his page he says he is a LIFE MEMBER of APS i have found out that is a load of old crock. He is hiding behind one of his family members and using their APS membership.

If i ever meet him face to face i will give him all the respect he deserves in a kind of Aussie way!

I will just have to sit back now and wait for him to relot the rebacked Qld stamp he refused to destroy!

He need some TarMac down his shorts! and some hot Christmas Pud rubbed in his face.

Thought he would have has the balls to come on to this board and attempt to defend himself but obviously some body cut them off already!

D1

Posted by manhattanconcepts   ( 10 ) on Dec-22-07 at 20:34:09 PST   Listings
Infla_alec: You are most welcome. I like being able to give something back to those so willing to help me with my new and baffling collection. Thanks to the rest of you as well.

Let it be known that Alec broke the ftp with his uploads... an unheard of event leading me to believe that there will be a lot of interesting inflation stuff to see once he stops scaring the poor thing to death.

Oh and I was the culprit who asked about the color of the cancel. It was blue. Clearly blue. It was supposed to be black. Clearly black. It was important to me or I would not have asked. Am I missing something? I mean more than usual?

Katrina
Posted by afeht   ( 1210 ) on Dec-22-07 at 20:06:26 PST   Listings
1covers,

I don't know if you know that "ZEK" means "prison inmate" in Soviet Russian jargon (a derivative from "Z/K" abbreviation). So, the whole county populated by "zekes" sounds like home sweet home to me...
Posted by jimbo   ( 424 ) on Dec-22-07 at 20:00:04 PST   Listings
1covers
And when I was a young man, Denver plates began with 1, Pueblo plates began with 2, Weld plates began with 3, El Paso plates began with 4, and so on down the way to 63 and the smallest county - Hinsdale.

jimbo older than you might think
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1449 ) on Dec-22-07 at 19:11:14 PST   Listings

Jim L. member
Posted by dbenson   ( 8772 ) on Dec-22-07 at 18:39:06 PST   Listings
NOIP, re Ken Lawrence and the APS, anyone who has a few hoyrs to spare will find some interesting comments here on Virtual Stamp Club,

http://forums.delphiforums.com/stamps/messages

Societies, Clubs, Organization - Ken Lawrence Sues APS, Officials

David Benson
Posted by 1covers   ( 1372 ) on Dec-22-07 at 18:08:16 PST   Listings
Alex - In days of old, Clear Creek County plates started with "CC" and Gilpin County plates with "ZEK" hence the "zekes" nickname.
Posted by afeht   ( 1210 ) on Dec-22-07 at 17:49:46 PST   Listings
As a matter of fact (not to offend anybody, just a curious circumstance), when we first came to Archuleta county, Colorado, in 1991, all local license plates started with either "FAK" or "YU," which created a rather comical effect on the road. Now one can chose from dozens of letter combinations.
Posted by red-dog9   ( 3436 ) on Dec-22-07 at 17:17:52 PST   Listings
Good for you Bob!!
Come back next year when you find the letter U
Posted by lookwhatbobfound   ( 300 ) on Dec-22-07 at 17:01:51 PST   Listings
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Posted by 1covers   ( 1372 ) on Dec-22-07 at 16:58:47 PST   Listings
Loveland?
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Dec-22-07 at 16:31:21 PST   Listings
RICHARD ---Some how the locals in Colorado knew I was from someplace else .ARMY JACKET,DO-RAG AND HAT ,1972,Have not been back for some 20 years
Posted by 1covers   ( 1372 ) on Dec-22-07 at 16:14:29 PST   Listings
Paul - I do not like Colorado myself - that is why I live in New Mexico. One good thing though - you could always tell the locals by the prefixes on the Colo. licence plates. Each county had a different prefix. I think they changed that about 15 years ago but am not sure.

Alex - One of my ex-employees lives in Pagosa Springs - Kathy Wagner (ne Cherry). I think her husband works at Wolf Creek in the winter.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Dec-22-07 at 16:03:26 PST   Listings
RICHARD ---The only claim about Colorado that interest me are the girls ,you can keep the soot and smog in Denver and the high price lift tickets and costly resort food ,oh forgot throw in the Coors with the girls .
Posted by 1covers   ( 1372 ) on Dec-22-07 at 16:00:37 PST   Listings
Paul - hint - pointylanders from a specific county.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Dec-22-07 at 15:57:41 PST   Listings
99keith99 ----Thats not true in Japan ,now that the post office went private and postage is now looked at something going down in value . Collectors are using up there collectible stamps of recent years .
Posted by 99keith99   ( 71 ) on Dec-22-07 at 15:50:36 PST   Listings
Remember! Never use a valuable stamp for postage when mailing a letter!
Happy Holidays, Elvis! :o)
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Dec-22-07 at 15:38:28 PST   Listings
ON MORE IMPORTANT MATTERS Just got finish reading the lawsuit/charges against the AMERICAN PHILATELIC SOCIETY ,its long and comprehensive ,this is not the place to go into all the details .But its safe to say they{APS} got a heck of a charge against them and quite a hole to dig out of.

But since it yet to go before a judge and a hearing yet to be establish .I though it would be better to give the final settlement before the meter for legal fees gets too high and they will come to the same conclusion AS POSTED HERE .

FIRST----The settlement will be private with all parties signing off not to disclose the details .

SECOND-----Ken Lawrence will get his public apolgy from all parties.

THIRD -----He will get his legal fees covered by the society .

FOURTH ------The society will have to make room for him and other conciderations .{what they are I don't know because I don't know the guy or like him,but he knows his stuff}.....paul

Posted by 1covers   ( 1372 ) on Dec-22-07 at 15:31:00 PST   Listings
Paul - OK, if you claim Colorado, where are the "Zekes" from?
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Dec-22-07 at 15:04:57 PST   Listings
ALEX No matter what others say about your writting skills or country of orgin ,You are a native Coloradian .Only people who have lived in Colorado would talk and write the way you did about tourist and lift-ticket prices .I lived out there for three years and you for sure sound just like a local.
Posted by malolo   ( 871 ) on Dec-22-07 at 15:00:44 PST   Listings
BTW -
Puget Sound area is 40-45° and wet. Hawaii is warm and dry right now. Shorts and short sleeve shirt still correct attire for the well dressed screener. )">)

Holiday travelers arrive early, and check everything is your checked bags. This is the true easy way to travel.
Roger
Posted by malolo   ( 871 ) on Dec-22-07 at 14:56:05 PST   Listings
Aloha All -

Interesting discussion about the different "English" dialects. When I visit England I'm usually taken for Canadian as I transition into English vocabulary fairly easily. Americans obviously don't know many of the common everyday "English" words. I have the trans-Atlantic accent and drop the trans-Atlantic vocabulary! My father used to visit England often and he was taken for being from South Africa at first because he had the typical California golfer's suntan. As soon as he started talking he became the Americanized Saxon that he was (no Anglo in his blood).

I once herded a group of Hawaiian kids on a day trip through a couple of London museums and onto the underground. A grey haired gentle lady asked one of our chaparones "where does your group call home". When told "Hawaii", she commented she had never heard that accent before. This commetn came in use the following school year when some high school students asked me where I learned a couple of words I used in class. They thought I had an accent, but I now had it on good authority that Hawaiian English is an accent!

I guess the final evaluation is that it doesn't matter the accent, or vocabulary, as long as an attempt is made at understanding the other person.

Roger
Posted by jaywild   ( 1031 ) on Dec-22-07 at 14:27:15 PST   Listings
NOIP… I think he speaks Brutish very well. English is another matter—erudition is not peppering your sentences with as many multi-syllable, high-falutin words as possible. The first aim of good writing is to be clear, the second is to be concise. Big words are like powerful spices, and should be used sparingly; otherwise the effect is to smother what you are trying to say. That is not being erudite. Rather, it is a pitiful attempt to show the world how learned one is, which always produces the exact opposite effect.

Anyone interested in erudition should read Fowler’s Modern English Usage. Over a hundred years old and still sublimely on target. Or read George Orwell on the topic.

Jim
Posted by sheryll*net   ( 91 ) on Dec-22-07 at 13:54:41 PST   Listings
Lyndel - Merry Christmas to you, too! Yes, too right I do! (trans = darn right, I think) 8-)

Hmm, thinking about it now, possibly in your post you meant to say "reigning monarch"?

I plan to redo my exhibit in January for COALPEX so my brain will be in stamp mode then. I'll look forward to hearing from you!

S2
Posted by dcderoo   ( 1713 ) on Dec-22-07 at 13:37:30 PST   Listings
1covers, it won't be listed alone.
It'll be listed with a bunch (15-20) of other Dec 25 dated covers.
Of course I'm a bit late getting around to it :-(
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 557 ) on Dec-22-07 at 13:24:33 PST   Listings
Merry Christmas Sheryll, I'm sure you find all kinds of words difficult to understand over there. Nice to catch you here. I haven't forgotten about the New Hebrides I asked you about, just that Vic did not get around to doing anything with them yet. I'll make it his New Year resolution.
best wishes from a not so sunny Melbourne.(raining at last)
Linda
Posted by sheryll*net   ( 91 ) on Dec-22-07 at 13:12:35 PST   Listings
Io and Bob - Glad to see my mailings made it to you before Christmas. Have a good one!

On the subject of "English", my husband maintains that he speaks the King's English, and I reply that I speak the Queen's. Misunderstandings occur over the simplest things. Why, I found out the other day that batteries "die" over here!

S2
Posted by afeht   ( 1210 ) on Dec-22-07 at 13:09:20 PST   Listings
"rations"="ratios"
Posted by afeht   ( 1210 ) on Dec-22-07 at 13:08:28 PST   Listings
Matthew,

I am getting the picture, thanks. I'll sort them first by SG Concise, at the same time putting aside anything "atypical," and then see if I can find "atypical" stuff in Specialized. I guess I could approximately value varieties not listed in SG proportionally to their mint rations.

I suspect I've got the bug... pretty colors... lots of pretty shiny colors...
Posted by matthew1999   ( 177 ) on Dec-22-07 at 12:27:27 PST   Listings
afeht, yes, you would miss a lot of varieties if you just go by the SG Concise. Whether they are "important" or not is up to you to determine! Every collector makes his/her own definition of importance.

I suggest you go through them once using the SG, organizing what seems to you like a reasonable collection and putting the remainder back into the box. If you find you have been bitten by the Machin bug in a big way, you can go back through them a second time using the more specialized book. If not, sell them or give them away. You can't lose!

Mh
Posted by 1covers   ( 1372 ) on Dec-22-07 at 11:52:59 PST   Listings
DCDEROO - It is genuine - not worth listing really - value around $5 to $10
Posted by dcderoo   ( 1713 ) on Dec-22-07 at 11:43:41 PST   Listings
Jim (jaywild), thanks for the look and opinion.
I'll list it as "most likely" legitimate.
Posted by stamphick!   ( 338 ) on Dec-22-07 at 10:44:36 PST   Listings
the phrase "British English" is not in common use here, whilst American English is.

Well I'll be darned. That is simply amazing. Who woulda thunk it?
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 83 ) on Dec-22-07 at 10:31:53 PST   Listings
Matthew I will let you off as some of the best English is alleged to be spoken in Aberdeen and I am half Scot. However, the phrase "British English" is not in common use here, whilst American English is.
Alex Seems I hit a hot spot. You don't have a clue how to write correct English so I am not going to waste anymore time on this one.
cheers
Peter
Posted by 22028   ( 1669 ) on Dec-22-07 at 10:16:11 PST   Listings
I hope I am allowed to post a message with my poor homemade English...
I am not sure if your are ware the the French auction house Behr is missing a letter containing very valuable stamps in the value of above Euro 110000 (US-$ 160000) send from the RPSL to France. I can post a link to an image of the stamps if requsted.
Posted by afeht   ( 1210 ) on Dec-22-07 at 10:11:51 PST   Listings
"Britush"="British"

BTW, there is even a translation agency specializing in preparing texts in specifically British English and American English.

Since I am a professional translator with 25 years of experience, and fluent in six languages, I respectfully invite illiterate people to refrain from giving me any further linguistic advice.
Posted by afeht   ( 1210 ) on Dec-22-07 at 10:08:59 PST   Listings
Matthew, thank you. Would it be feasible, then, to sort out used Machins using SG Concise catalog, not the 2-volume one listing mint/gum varieties? Or would I miss some important verieties by relying on SG Concise?

Greenwave, please think before posting. You reveal such ignorance (and such unfamiliarity with most basic rules of English grammar, be it Britush or American) that any further discussion of your imaginary patriotic grievances is moot.
Posted by matthew1999   ( 177 ) on Dec-22-07 at 10:02:11 PST   Listings
Peter (greenwave)

I respectfully beg to differ. British English most certainly does exist as a variant to, say, Scots or American or Antipodean or Caribbean English. There are easily identifiable, regularly occurring distinctions in vocabulary, spelling, and grammar. As some wag once said, an "official language" is just a dialect with a large standing army.

Happy Christmas!

Mh
Posted by matthew1999   ( 177 ) on Dec-22-07 at 09:53:12 PST   Listings
afeht, except for gum, all varieties of Machins are equally collectible in used condition, IMHO.
In fact, one of the more interesting areas of Machin study is nonphilatelic covers showing domestic and overseas rates, which changed frequently during the inflation period of the 1970s and early 80s (though not as frequently as Germany in the early 20s!)
Enjoy the study and don't worry about pricing.

Mh
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 83 ) on Dec-22-07 at 09:52:39 PST   Listings
NOIP Just purchased a couple of study lots on Sandafayre for the reserve price. Xmas always a good time to buy from there. The first is a study of the Natal 1895 1/2d provisionals. The second is a study of the 1893 provisionals of Seychelles. Plenty of stamps in both these lots to keep me out of mischief over the holiday period.

Alex My understanding of the Queen's English is perfect. However, your ability at writing English leaves room for improvement, perhaps because it is not your native language. As this is the season of goodwill I will let you off. BTW "British English" does not exist only English:-)

cheers


Peter

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