eBay Chat: Stamps

eBay chatboard archive: Feb-25-08 to Mar-02-08 week

Posted by dbenson ( 8890

)

on Mar-02-08 at 23:18:24 PST

Alex,

sorry, I can't answer why they are not deemed to be the same of the federal perfs. but it has been that way most probably for the past 100 years. Maybe sometime in the future they will be considered equals but at the moment they are considered inferior. Things change in philately and a few years ago even perf. OS federal issues were looked down on but now have equal or higher status but because of the premium paid for them has created another problem, forged OS perfs. and now they are being looked upon as too risky to collect as the forged perfs are extremely difficult to discern. Most of the Auction houses here refuse to give guarantees on them and in some cases are not accepted for sale,

David B.

Posted by afeht ( 1273

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on Mar-02-08 at 23:10:01 PST

than=then

David, thanks for an explanation.

These OS_perforated stamps are often included in Australian States lots snf collections. A distinction between state and federal government department seems somewhat irrelevant from the stamp collector's point of view. Since they are collected, and since they are stamps, there should be a demand for a catalog that lists them. Strange that I don't find such a catalog anywhere.

Posted by lloydstamps ( 621

)

on Mar-02-08 at 23:06:34 PST

Stamps12345: What was deleted off my board? Both messages I cited are there, and I just checked the links below and they work.

We delete very few messages. Usually, when an occasional visitor says "the message is gone," it's because DelphiForums has marked the message as ready by that person.

Let me reiterate: I have not used the word "idiots" in The VSC message board in the past year, except for the one message where I was quoting someone else.

Posted by antonius-ra ( 674

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on Mar-02-08 at 23:05:41 PST

Re Silver: I really could not care less what the Vultures care about this commodity. To me it is not really a commodity but a resource to be transformed. I have been a Silversmith for nearly forty years. Silver to me is something I use to create something of beauty (at least I hope others think so)).
Back in the 70's I use to buy silverware pieces at garage sales. I amassed a pretty good bit of it to. When the Hunt brothers tried to corner the market, I had a hard time ressisting the urged to "capatalize". I sold around fifty pounds at $42.00 an ounce.
I wonder what our wizard of Wall street was doing at the time.

Life ain't all about making money. I feel sorry for the families that have to put up with those that think that way.
Life should be about appreciating and contributing too: beauty, knowledge, understanding, nature and good friends.
No, I didn't not forget love and nuturing of family, actually we are all one big family of glorified apes in the "sphere" of that which IS.
Some people do not get it, really not my problem.
They will get it sooner or later but it is a bit trying to
put up with their insecurties/denseness until that illumination happens.
I would speak my full mind, but.........................

Posted by afeht ( 1273

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on Mar-02-08 at 23:04:56 PST

"lluehhhb" wrote:

Congregate a worldwide group of stamp collectors and build friendship relations within them. Isn't it a basic objetive of any club?

If what is going on here is "friendship," than Russian mafia is "business." Don't take me for a ride, mate.

Posted by dbenson ( 8890

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on Mar-02-08 at 23:01:33 PST

Alex, they were used by State Government departments and are not considered to be on a par with those used by Federal Government departments however they are still collected and there is plenty of literature about them in various articles and magazines. As far as I know they are not in any catalogue and usually sell for a fraction of catalogue value of the Federal perfs.

David B.

Posted by afeht ( 1273

)

on Mar-02-08 at 22:53:26 PST

Re: Australian States with "OS" perforations

Most catalogs (Michel, Scott, SG, Yvert and Brusden White) list OS-perforated stamps of Australian Federation as "Officials" on par with OS-overprinted stamps. They are treated as official postage stamps.

However, I don't see any of these catalogs listing stamps of New South Wales, Victoria, South Australia, etc., perforated "OS", "NSW OS", etc. Only "official overprints are listed.

Why OS-perforated Australian States stamps aren't treated as legitimate officials? And where does one find OS-perforated Australian States stamps catalogued?

Posted by antonius-ra ( 674

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on Mar-02-08 at 22:41:19 PST

Milenko Gratis, much more than I could have expected.
Thanks for taking the time.

Posted by stamps12345 ( 225

) on Mar-02-08 at 22:39:25 PST

LLOYD-----Just when back and now the posting is gone ,how do you like that ,it was deleted off your board .

Posted by lluehhhb ( 347

) on Mar-02-08 at 22:23:32 PST

Mitch
Forgot to say that the base stamps weren't originally printed for the air mail service. They were ordered to London to celebrate the centenary of Maipo battle (1818-1918). However, the stamps arrived some years late and so they weren't put into circulation.

Posted by lloydstamps ( 621

)

on Mar-02-08 at 22:19:43 PST

Stamps12345 wrote: "LLOYD and his board has already stated that E-Bay is going to replace the APS idiots with their own idiots .So the philatelic community already painted any new people who come into this job as idiots."

That's an erroneous characterization. In VSC message 29570.5, on January 10th, I wrote, "EBay will have much more say in the selection of the experts, rather than relying on the input of the APS."

I did not use the word "idiots." With one exception, I have not used the word "idiots" in The Virtual Stamp Club message board in at least a year.

In reporting on APS Director-at-Large Michael Dixon's presentation on the APS member survey in message 29569.15, I wrote, "His presentation is full of bon mots such as "I don't know what Scott numbers have to do with anything, other than selling catalogues" when talking about searches on StampStore and something about eBay deciding to use its own idiots to judge lots."

First, you have to understand how Michael talks in public; he's very entertaining, and the zingers fly constantly. But even so, he never referred to "APS idiots."

So Stamps12345's citation is erroneous, both in fact and in characterization.

Posted by lluehhhb ( 347

) on Mar-02-08 at 22:09:57 PST

Mitch

In 1925 the original dies of the base stamp were used to print a cinderella, but with modified texts. All forgeries are made adding a fake overprint to these labels.

1)Here you have an original stamp. Note that the texts are:
CHILE/CORREOS/10 CTS/10 CTS/MAIPO
Also, the blue center is printed in a white space without ornaments.

2)In the bottom of this picture you can see the cinderella. the texts are:
CHILE/21 DE MAYO/1925/1925/PRO-RAZA
And the white space for the center now has a thin line around as an ornament.
In the same picture there is a set of fake overprints on the label. Better pictures...

3)... are here. Now you can see clearly the inner line frame and the wrong texts.

4)However, some forgers knew this was too obvious, and made some job on the labels applying paint and thinning some areas in order to reconstruct the original texts, and then applied the fake overprints, like here. In this case the forger didn't remove the inner frame, but I've seen forgeries without the frame. Now you have to see the stamps against light to detect the thinning and paint job.

As you can see the fake overprints are quite bad and it should be he first warning.
A full genuine set is here.

Posted by stamps12345 ( 225

) on Mar-02-08 at 22:00:09 PST

Sco-ish Bank is buying silver at over $20.00 a ounce,Their FX desk is busy looks like a good day tomorrow when our market opens here .

Posted by stamps12345 ( 225

) on Mar-02-08 at 21:51:25 PST

ROGER / WILLDERSPIN Sorry ,got called away the markets were opening and got busy.

But looking at the SWEDISHTIGER page, thats a excellant idea and one that can bring new posters to this room.

Posted by antonius-ra ( 674

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on Mar-02-08 at 21:42:32 PST

Wilderspin (Roger) I would be most curious what you expect to hear from Stamps 12345? He is not a member of the EUSC so really has nothing to say about it, confirm, accept, thank you mam or nothing but squat and do his business on this board and the EUSC.

Posted by antonius-ra ( 674

)

on Mar-02-08 at 21:39:37 PST

Milenko Thank you for the most excellent reply!
I was not aware of forgeries for this issue. It must have been quite a test for the forger to make a convincing replica.
The ones I am looking at have an authentic appearance to me
(even though I have not seen any certified or otherwise examples in the flesh).
What would be some of the indicators of a forgery?
Since the stamps themselves were only printed and overprinted (no known un overprinted stamps) for the task you noted. One might assume that the production quality of the stamps may have been somewhat lacking in the detail that similar Chilean stamps might have had.

P.S. Congrats on your well deserved nomination for Prsident of the EUSC

Posted by willderspin ( 825

) on Mar-02-08 at 21:35:50 PST

IO (Mr Volcano) - thank you for the compliment

19thCentPostal - thank you as well. Although there is no need to chip in, it would be free.

I will wait to here from Stamps12345, he has been on the board since my posting, but no acknowledgement yet.

Posted by lluehhhb ( 347

) on Mar-02-08 at 21:22:51 PST

Mitch

These stamps were issued for an air mail service between Santiago and Valparaiso, made by a single plane.

The stamps weren't sold directly to the public; the postal clerks added them to the covers and cancelled them, for accounting measures.

To get unused stamps, collectors sent to themselves heavy objects like bricks. The stamps needed couldn't be added to the small package and were given uncancelled to the sender. Evidently the clerk had to be your friend!

When the plane crashed, the stock of stamps was burned.

The production numbers of each stamp are unknown. What we have is the total amount in $ that were sold. given that figure, it has been calculated that no more than 3,000 sets could exist today. The MNH ones are real rarities. Used sets can be found with certain frequency, but usually they sell for full cat value since it's a popular set. Beware for forgeries.

Posted by dbenson ( 8887

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on Mar-02-08 at 21:05:23 PST

19th.C,

the line that goes though the top of the inverted W appears to have been added to make it appear that the cancel is over the overprint,

David B.

Posted by afeht ( 1273

)

on Mar-02-08 at 21:05:01 PST

Since "jaywild" is into quotes lately, here's a good one for him from one of the greatest American classics:

Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded--here and there, now and then--are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty. This is known as “bad luck.”

Posted by iomoon ( 1062

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on Mar-02-08 at 21:04:00 PST

Alex

I really did not mean my comments to be complimentary but rather satisfactory in that you did not waste words on complaining about posts to the board, but rather added some educational information.

From a personal viewpoint, if you could continue in such a manner I would appreciate it. But I am but a single contributor to the board and others may have different wishes.

Paul

You are free to quote everything I write.

wilderspin..Roger

That is a wonderful web site, even though I don't collect US stamps.

Milenko

thank you for being willing to accept the position of President of the eUSC. I think you will be very good at the task.

Posted by dbenson ( 8887

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on Mar-02-08 at 21:02:00 PST

19th.C,

the SWA pair has a Johannesburg cancel which doesn't give them much credence,

David B.

Posted by antonius-ra ( 674

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on Mar-02-08 at 20:56:06 PST

Milenko Could you please inform me what the production numbers were for the first Chilean airmails.
I remember you saying that they were quite low and the catalog prices did not reflect that scarcity.

Hi Lynn Many thanks for the recent additions you sent.

Posted by craftyps ( 1191

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on Mar-02-08 at 20:44:13 PST

Scotpel re: German stamp. It translates: Railroad Mail, train # 265 from Cologne to Frankfurt/Main.

Posted by 19thcentpostal ( 243

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on Mar-02-08 at 20:26:05 PST

infla-alec I would very much appreciate a tutorial on submitting material to German expertizers, if you have the time and inclination.
wilderspin I really like your idea about advertising on theswedishtiger. I will also be willing to 'chip in' for that.
NOIP Anyone familiar with 1940's South West Africa overprints see anything wrong with these inverts?
TIA Lynn

Posted by jaywild ( 1055

)

on Mar-02-08 at 19:52:31 PST

D2… I’ve seen you teetering on the edge of 8888 feedback for a couple days. 8 is a very lucky number to the Chinese…

Jim

Posted by scottpel3 ( 875

) on Mar-02-08 at 19:51:10 PST

David: in looking at the French stamp. The top of the middle hole appears to have canceling ink going into the hole. This may speak against the holes being added after the cancelation.
Scott

Posted by dbenson ( 8887

)

on Mar-02-08 at 19:47:32 PST

Lloyd, slight correction, I know that were some non APS members who also worked as well, I also include them in doing a fine and competent job,

David B.

Posted by dbenson ( 8887

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on Mar-02-08 at 19:45:53 PST

LLoyd,

for your benefit, personally I think the people appointed by the APS and the APS members who worked on the relationship did a very good job and in no way would I describe them as idiots but as very competent individuals and I hope the same group will continue working for Ebay after the relationship ends,

David B.

Posted by dbenson ( 8887

)

on Mar-02-08 at 19:42:49 PST

Lloyd,

if you are out there, could you provide the link to this statement attributed to you,

" LLOYD and his board has already stated that E-Bay is going to replace the APS idiots with their own idiots .So the philatelic community already painted any new people who come into this job as idiots. Its a shame because it could be some very responsible people who have good intentions to do the job right ",

David B.

Posted by stamps12345 ( 225

) on Mar-02-08 at 19:24:16 PST

JAY ----Thats Romans 3:23

Posted by scottpel3 ( 875

) on Mar-02-08 at 19:20:32 PST

Thank you Jim for the suggestion. That should bring it between 1934 and 1951 from googling him.
Scott

Posted by willderspin ( 825

) on Mar-02-08 at 19:15:47 PST

STAMPS12345

I would not throw my hat in the ring for president as I am over committed for time and I such a rare visitor here anyway, moreover I an woefully lacking in qualifications. However, I am interested in advertising the ebay stamp club on theswedishtiger.com. It has now become the most second most visited stamp site and thus can garner a lot of traffic in your direction. Let me know. I can probably assist in the fund. Let me know

Posted by jaywild ( 1055

)

on Mar-02-08 at 19:14:11 PST

Paul… “All have sinned, and fall short of the glory of [INSERT PERSONAL DEITY’S NAME HERE].”

Jim

Posted by jaywild ( 1055

)

on Mar-02-08 at 19:12:29 PST

Scott & D2… The Belgian revenue has a “III” in what looks like a laurel wreath, which might indicate Leopold III, which would help date the item.

Jim

Posted by jim_lawler ( 1478

)

on Mar-02-08 at 19:10:57 PST

Jim L.

member

Posted by stamps12345 ( 225

) on Mar-02-08 at 19:08:21 PST

JAY ---Your picking on me ---lol

Posted by scottpel3 ( 875

) on Mar-02-08 at 19:07:53 PST

Thank you David. I appreciate the information.
Scott

Posted by stamps12345 ( 225

) on Mar-02-08 at 19:07:28 PST

DAVID B. ----The dollar amount is confidential, first guess was $100,000 but was told by a good source my number was high .

The other statement can be confirmed by LLOYD or read thru his links .

Posted by dbenson ( 8887

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on Mar-02-08 at 19:01:41 PST

Scott, can't answer the 1st. French item an dmay be a later addition. The 2nd. item is Belgian, looks like a cigarette tax label. the German oval is a Railway Post Office marking.

David B.

Posted by jaywild ( 1055

)

on Mar-02-08 at 18:56:48 PST

Paul… A quote from you:

Maybe we can get this famous quote put into the clubs bylaws -------- A statement as to the disagreement with a specific comment would be more useful than a personal diatribe against the poster " -------If you don't mind ,i'll like to use that quote on a regulate basis

Anybody who has the time and inclination can go back through the years are find hundreds of insults you have made to others on the board. So perhaps civility on the board will begin when you—

1. Quit complaining that everyone is picking on you
2. Quit picking on others

Just a thought…

Jim

Posted by scottpel3 ( 875

) on Mar-02-08 at 18:54:01 PST

On looking at the fiscal - perhaps a Belgian fiscal? Yes it is in terrible shape.
Scott

Posted by dbenson ( 8887

)

on Mar-02-08 at 18:53:43 PST

Paul, could you provide some links regarding both your statements,

David B.

Posted by scottpel3 ( 875

) on Mar-02-08 at 18:52:30 PST

Basic stamp questions:

I started looking at a cheap, earlier, on paper stamp mixture. I came across the following amoung them.

http://www.ceremonyprograms.com/programs/stamps009a.jpg

Question 1: why the line of holes in the French stamp. Does not appear to be perfs or perfin.

Question 2: The long item appears to be a French fiscal, can anyone give any information on it?

Question 3: the cancel on the Germania may be common but is of a different shape than most I am finding. Can someone give me information about the cancel.

Working on cheap stamps can be fun if not financially rewarding. It can, with the help of this group, also be educational.
Scott

Posted by stamps12345 ( 225

) on Mar-02-08 at 18:50:42 PST

DAVID B. ------...LLOYD and his board has already stated that E-Bay is going to replace the APS idiots with their own idiots .So the philatelic community already painted any new people who come into this job as idiots. Its a shame because it could be some very responsible people who have good intentions to do the job right .

. .But what interest me is the $75,000 or about that amount that e-bay is willing to spent to help clear up bad listings .That is cheap compared to the millions their legal dept. spents for after the fact policeing .

Posted by stamps12345 ( 225

) on Mar-02-08 at 18:23:03 PST

IOMOON -------Maybe we can get this famous quote put into the clubs bylaws -------- A statement as to the disagreement with a specific comment would be more useful than a personal diatribe against the poster " -------If you don't mind ,i'll like to use that quote on a regulate basis

Posted by dbenson ( 8887

)

on Mar-02-08 at 18:19:41 PST

Paul, agreed, it is not an error,

David B.

Posted by dbenson ( 8887

)

on Mar-02-08 at 18:17:56 PST

One of Paul's suggestions would make a great topic.

It is his statement about what will occur when the APS & Ebay agreement is cancelled as Ebay is cancelling all of it's agreements.

I don't know what Ebay has in mind but it looks like they will be organising an inhouse watch group instead of referring material to the Stamp Watch Committee and the APS for verification that something is wrong with the listing. The APS has been very quiet and Ebay hasn't made any other statements. Possibly the incoming President can make approaches to Ebay and recommend individuals who can assist Ebay in their area of expertise.

David B.

Posted by stamps12345 ( 225

) on Mar-02-08 at 18:05:23 PST

DAVID B. ----Its still of interest to a collector and will be a neat addition to any China collection . Never said it was a error just a rare variety .

Posted by dbenson ( 8887

)

on Mar-02-08 at 17:33:53 PST

Paul, yes there is a mark on the C but as the overprint was made using printers type it cannot be a error of lettering and is a flaw on the letter C. It is not a primary flaw, if you check the web page on the 1c. on 3c. you will see that none of the 25 positions show that variation, therefore it must be a secondary flaw which occurred on all stamps from that position or a temporary variation.

If you look at all of the 25 positions you will see a lot of extra ink marks which were caused by poor quality of overprinting,

David B.

Posted by stamps12345 ( 225

) on Mar-02-08 at 17:33:31 PST

Im tired of people hiding behind fake I.D. s

Posted by sneeky37 ( 237

)

on Mar-02-08 at 17:29:00 PST

A VERY GOOD EVENING TO ALL!!

Posted by steeler2018 ( 0 ) on Mar-02-08 at 17:19:07 PST

afert,

You said the general altmosphere on the board would be much healthier if people stopped making stale self gratifying remarks, and then you ask what the EUSC has ever done. "Exactly nothing. Its president may as well be Mickey Mouse."

I think what everybofy is tired of is you.

Posted by stamps12345 ( 225

) on Mar-02-08 at 17:17:51 PST

PETER Sure here is a 1200 dpi scan. BETTER SCAN .......paul

Posted by lluehhhb ( 347

) on Mar-02-08 at 17:09:40 PST

Alex:

"What this club has ever done?"

Congregate a worldwide group of stamp collectors and build friendship relations within them. Isn't it a basic objetive of any club?

From your posts it's evident that you're not interested in long term social relations. Virtually all your posts from the beginning have had some negative message. So, why you waste your time here?

Posted by greenwave4u ( 84

)

on Mar-02-08 at 17:05:07 PST

PaulIf you are going to shut your critics up you need to provide a much better scan of that cents area, suggest you post a 600dpi of that area.
Peter

Posted by jaywild ( 1055

)

on Mar-02-08 at 16:47:29 PST

Uh-oh. Don’t go out in the woods today, the yeti is on the loose again, and he has a thorn in his sit-down…

Jim

Posted by dbenson ( 8887

)

on Mar-02-08 at 16:47:18 PST

Paul, the reason for that is that tend to show items that you claim are rare or an unknown variety when the statements are incorrect,

Send the item for a certificate if you want but you will be wasting your money,

David B.

Posted by dbenson ( 8887

)

on Mar-02-08 at 16:44:40 PST

make that 25 positions which were repeated 4 times per sheet.

David B.

Posted by stamps12345 ( 225

) on Mar-02-08 at 16:43:40 PST

SHOCKING....just shocking

DAVID B. -------Lets be honest with each other ,in the past seven years of showing scans ,you NEVER said anything good about any stamp that I have shown and I mean hundreds of scans . You have never said anything good or positive ....so im I shocked ...NO .

but your wrong about that stamp ,its going for a certificate.

NOIP-----Here is more early China EARLY AIRMAILS....paul

Posted by afeht ( 1273

)

on Mar-02-08 at 16:42:01 PST

"jaywild" wrote:

However, if you think you’ve found a new variety, perhaps you should send your discovery to Scott and Stanley Gibbons, and Linns as well. Have you ever sent your “error” discoveries off to any of the catalog publishers?

Have you?

Posted by dbenson ( 8887

)

on Mar-02-08 at 16:39:10 PST

Paul,

here is an experts study of the Red Revenues,

http://www.angelnetworking.com/stamps/

and the complete study of the 20 types of the One Cent which were repeated to overprint,

http://www.angelnetworking.com/stamps/rr1c/index.html

you should be able to position your stamps,

David B.

Posted by afeht ( 1273

)

on Mar-02-08 at 16:38:01 PST

iomoon:

I don't remember asking for your or anybody else's compliments. My self-esteem doesn't depend on casual comments of a passer-by.

Anyway, the general atmosphere on this board would be much healthier, in my opinion, if regular visitors would stop picking on Paul (stamps12345). Most of us don't appreciate this kind of stale sadistic self-gratification, and are tired of it.

On the other subject:

Who cares, who would be a president of the eBay Users' Stamp Club? What this club has ever done? Exactly nothing. Its president may as well be Mickey Mouse (or even a "lindy" for that matter).

By the way, Paul (stamps12345) was the only one here who wrote something meaningful about this club and its possible future.

Posted by jaywild ( 1055

)

on Mar-02-08 at 16:32:04 PST

Paul… I am having trouble seeing the EENT. An enlarged view shows quite a bit of difference between the first and second letter of CENTS in the bottom stamp. There is a blob inside the C but that’s just lint or other detritus stuck to the type that has picked up ink. Happens in letterpress printing all the time, and in litho too, where it’s called “scumming”.

However, if you think you’ve found a new variety, perhaps you should send your discovery to Scott and Stanley Gibbons, and Linns as well. Have you ever sent your “error” discoveries off to any of the catalog publishers?

Jim

Posted by dbenson ( 8887

)

on Mar-02-08 at 16:26:06 PST

Paul,

looks like an optical illusion and a bit of imagination to me,

a close up scan of the C should prove it,

David B.

Posted by oregonstamps ( 251

) on Mar-02-08 at 16:19:10 PST

Does anyone have any information about a book on Nicaragua stamps by Stroub?

Timm

Posted by stamps12345 ( 225

) on Mar-02-08 at 16:13:13 PST

NOIP-------Rather talk about the common early China but if you really want to see something to brag about ,here is a neat unknown variety.The stamp shows this better than it shows in the scan . ONE EENT FOR ONE CENT .....more later

Posted by philatarium ( 249

)

on Mar-02-08 at 16:01:03 PST

errata:

3rd paragraph: "since" should be "sense"
4th paragraph: "it's right half" should be "its right half"

and probably others

(I should not have tried to compose that post on the fly.)

Posted by stamps12345 ( 225

) on Mar-02-08 at 15:58:01 PST

DAVID B. -----Give it a break ,I clearly told everyone here that the stamps where pre-1949 as early China.That I was working on perf ,color,paper and overprint varities that most worldwide collectors fail to identify .Where you got the bug about the expensive Imperial China stamps im not sure but they are hard to find and the cost on them is usually at premium prices .

If you want to see some sure give me a minute .....

Posted by philatarium ( 249

)

on Mar-02-08 at 15:56:47 PST

Comrade: I'm no expert, but I believe the city in the return address is correct, called "Shingishu" at that time.

I checked in a philatelic reference that shows in Japanese characters the Korean post office names during the Japanese occupation.

The only character I can make out clearly is the leftmost one, which is on the envelope, rather than being obscured (and smeared) by the stamp. That character reads "shu" (or "shuu"), and, since this was a time that those characters were read right to left, that makes since.

The middle character, "gi" is complex, and may explain why it's such a blur. The rightmost character, "shin", is also complex, but it's right half is a little simpler, and what's on the stamp kind of looks like that. I would not have recognized that character (and it's one I still remember) unless I had known what I was looking for, which I didn't until I checked the reference mentioned above.

According to some Googling, the current name of that city is Sinuiju, and it's located in what is now North Korea.

As for the date, I can't put my hands at the moment on another reference that I like better and that would confirm this for me, but assuming that the Japanese calendar which was imposed on Korea during this period used the same "regnal year", then I believe the date is Jan 13, 1914. [YY - MM - DD, where "3" is the year, which would mean Taisho 3, which is 1914.] That would also be the year when the first run of that stamp was issued. (Again, wish I had a particular reference handy).

It is possible that the date reads DD - MM - YY, in which case the year would be Taisho 13, which is 1938, and the date would be Jan 3, 1938, when those stamps were still about, but other definitives were in use by then, at least in Japan proper. So I would lean towards Jan 13, 1914, but am willing to be corrected.

This is a postcard, right? So is there anything on the reverse that would confirm these hypotheses?

If you'd like, you can send me a scan at:

stamps --at-- pacificanalytics --dot-- com

I'm hoping someone who is more knowledgeable than I will jump in here at any moment, but I hope this is helpful in the meantime.

-- Dave

Posted by dbenson ( 8887

)

on Mar-02-08 at 15:46:49 PST

Alex,

he has been bragging about his early China for a couple of weeks, time to stop bragging and showing,

He has just admitted that he has no early China only the later issues so that is something definite he has stated,

David B.

Posted by iomoon ( 1062

)

on Mar-02-08 at 15:46:00 PST

Alex

You are to be complimented on your first few postings after being reinstated on the chatboard.

We all like to gather information which singular persons have within their expertise.

However, please refrain from commenting on other people's inabilities to respond to questions unless you feel the comment is non-beneficial.

Most of the regular posters to the board are sufficiently experienced in their own fields to provide useful information.

A statement as to the disagreement with a specific comment would be more useful than a personal diatribe against the poster.

Posted by afeht ( 1273

)

on Mar-02-08 at 15:27:25 PST

dbenson, paolo et al.

It would much improve your image in the eyes of a casual visitor if you would get off Paul's back and look in the mirror once in a while. Experts, my behind!

Posted by afeht ( 1273

)

on Mar-02-08 at 15:25:20 PST

Knud:

I can read now "City of Warsaw VI City Post Office" on the wax seal. I cannot read anything new on the front postmark, aorry.

Posted by stamps12345 ( 225

) on Mar-02-08 at 15:00:53 PST

David B. ------Don't understand your statement about "Bragging about early China " any reader can look at a catalog and see that 50% of the stamps are at minium catalog and another 30%catalog under $5.00 each.So what am I bragging about, staying up late for three weeks each night sorting cheap stamps according perforations,color,paper and overprints .I've already stated here that the stamps have low financial value and most collectors never get around to a decent collection . Give me a break its hard work and with little end results award.

The pre-1900 stamps are not cheap and are in high demand and I don't have enought to impress anyone.

Posted by dbenson ( 8887

)

on Mar-02-08 at 14:58:10 PST

briguy,

" DAMAGED BY SHRAPNEL " would be a better description,

David B.

Posted by abelstamps ( 1585

)

on Mar-02-08 at 14:47:53 PST

stamps12345:
I too have an interest in seeing the early China you have been working on. Do you have a scanner?

Posted by thebriguy1 ( 64

) on Mar-02-08 at 14:37:37 PST

Best advice, do NOT sneeze when holding these. :o(

Posted by laumpc ( 2987

)

on Mar-02-08 at 13:38:04 PST

Matt Unless they want the catalog to ballon in size, they almost have to keep the font. It took me almost a week of experimentation to come up with the style which reduce the size of catalog by a significant amount. Problem is going to be the images which were cut and paste into the pages. It might not be a bad idea to make the catalog two volumes and scan in all the images.

Posted by comrade666 ( 1306

) on Mar-02-08 at 13:34:23 PST

Hello,
Thanks stamphick. I am Comrade666. The cover I asked to be posted has Japanese stamps. The return address shows a place in Korea. I do not know Japanese. So, my question is "Is this item from the place shown in the return address, and what is the date.

Dave

Posted by paperhistory ( 1995

)

on Mar-02-08 at 13:09:28 PST

Mike: Much easier when building on the existing work, of course. There have been a lot of state editors and section editors appointed. Decisions on uniform listing style, formatting, etc. are being made up front to make the revisions as easy as possible.

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Posted by antonius-ra ( 674

)

on Mar-02-08 at 12:55:32 PST

Milenko and Lindy Thank you for your confirmations.

Alec I must have it confused with another ID. There was another lady designer from Manhattan who frequented the board several years ago.

Posted by infla-alec ( 588

)

on Mar-02-08 at 12:48:11 PST

Mitch No the Catwhowalks was a UK member. Manhattan Katrina is US based member.

Posted by mini*lindy ( 584

)

on Mar-02-08 at 12:43:13 PST

7.40am here in Melbourne, er, thank you Mitchell, but I don't even collect stamps now, sorry have to decline your kind nomination.

However, I do agree Milenko would make a good club President, if he is willing and has the time.

I enjoy reading the board most days, and answer any simple questions I can, but thats it.

Linda

Posted by lluehhhb ( 347

) on Mar-02-08 at 12:41:02 PST

I'm very honoured to be considered for EUSC president, and I accept the nomination.

thanks!

Posted by antonius-ra ( 674

)

on Mar-02-08 at 12:37:33 PST

Alec Actually, I believe Kat has been an officer in the club before you came here. Under the ID Catwhowalksbyherself (sp)

Richard (sayasan) Could you please clarify if you would accept nomination?

Posted by laumpc ( 2987

)

on Mar-02-08 at 12:27:23 PST

Matt Thanks for the update. It will be interesting to see how the society is going to do all this. Considering how much work is involve just to do the pasteups of the images.

Posted by infla-alec ( 588

)

on Mar-02-08 at 12:20:49 PST

Mitch If permissable I'll second all three nominations. I know all three and I have no doubt all would do their best if elected.

When it comes down to voting itself I vote for Manhattan. Katrina is new to the board yes but maybe the Eusc board does need someone new to come into the fold. At least by volunteering we have a willing nominee.

I have no doubt though Pauls comments are arguably something the Eusc does need to consider at least acting upon.

Perhaps the new incoming President should we get one does need a bit more support and help. I offer to help when I can but simnply can't commit myself to actually running not because I don't want to but because of many other commitments. But if the new President feels I can help in some way I will if I can.

Posted by peterc8888 ( 376

) on Mar-02-08 at 12:17:57 PST

Richard

Can you tell me about this cover?

Thanks,

PC

Posted by dbenson ( 8887

)

on Mar-02-08 at 12:14:52 PST

Mitch,

I thought others would jump in as there is a great division between those who think 3rd. party grading is a good idea and those that don't.

Like I said I believe it is basically a good idea and will be here forever,

p.s. I think the US is the only area which has grading which extends to fairly modern material whilst all other grading is regarding 19th. Century material,

let's hear from others who have ideas,

David B.

Posted by vonbag ( 207

)

on Mar-02-08 at 12:12:39 PST

Hey Mitchell,
What about my nomination of Richard W. (Sayasan) at mine of 10:00:02 PST confirmed by mine at 10:18:51 PST?
I did not read a decline in Richard's reply.
He just wrote he's not of a regular enough, but regularity can be regulated, eventually augmented, upon oneself's wish.

Ciao, Paolo

Posted by stamphick! ( 338

) on Mar-02-08 at 12:05:38 PST

Someone asked me to link to these scans and ask if this cover was sent from Korea and if so from what city and what date.

Cover.

Postmark.

I'm not really sure of the eBay ID of the person who asked but I assume he'll show up to see any answers.

Posted by peterc8888 ( 376

) on Mar-02-08 at 12:01:10 PST

Hi Richard,

Thanks. So that is a rare one?

PC

Posted by 1covers ( 1375

)

on Mar-02-08 at 11:57:55 PST

PC - that "N. York Am. Pkt. Paid" (with paid off center to right) was used in red as an exchange office marking in the mid 1860's on mail abroad. Rarely seen as a cancel.