eBay chatboard archive: Mar-31-08 to Apr-06-08 week

Posted by dbenson   ( 9041 ) on Apr-06-08 at 23:32:47 PDT   Listings
Breffington, you lost me, where did I say

" big ticket items don't enter into the equation ",

To get a high medal (Large Vermeil, Gold & Large Gold) any collection DOES need some big ticket items but it doesn't mean that it needs all expensive & rare material. Commoner material should be left at home as there is no need to show it but interesting material, no matter the value should be shown. Points will be lost if common, run of the mill, everyday material is shown.

re your comment

" Subjectively money has to talk and influence grading "

The points system allocates 20 points for rarity and it has to be exceptional to attain high points. It all depends on what is being exhibited as some entries can attain high points without outlaying large amounts of money but if a very popular and expensive area is being shown then of course the better material is going to be expensive,

SHOUTING ON PURPOSE,

JUDGES DO NOT ALLOCATE POINTS FOR RARITY BY VALUING THE MATERIAL, THEY ALLOCATE THEM BY THE SCARCITY OR LACK OF IT,

High points are often given for material that is of low value but scarce.

I mentioned that I have just finished a one framer, most of the material is worth $10 or less but I have only managed to find 5 items in almost 40 years and have been looking all the time,

David B.
Posted by ladynouveau   ( 1679 ) on Apr-06-08 at 23:01:21 PDT   Listings
Roger,

I don't have a UV light, but I do have a bright lamp on my desk. Your method seems to work pretty well. I can see the shine - and lack of shine - on the stamps I'm sure of. I'll look around for a UV light to provide further confirmation of my visual identifications. Thanks a lot!

Dave (Ladynouveau's husband)
Posted by malolo   ( 893 ) on Apr-06-08 at 22:13:43 PDT   Listings
ladynouveau -

One other method may be to hold the stamp at an angle to a bright light and see if the pronted surface of the stamp looks shiny. This would be the "glazed surface" usually a chalk filler between the paper fibers. The unsurfaced paper wil not appear shiny, but instead will have a dull look no matter how you angle the stamp to the light.

Roger
Posted by malolo   ( 893 ) on Apr-06-08 at 22:10:23 PDT   Listings
ladynouveau -
If you have access to a UV lamp, place both stamps together under the light. You might discover the greyish paper does not show bright white, but the whiter paper will. Some old Swiss stamps can be separated in this manner. Brighteners that make paper whiter, fluoresce. Once you have determined if this method works, all stamps from that series can be identified easily.

Roger
Swiss Razor Cancels
Posted by breffington   ( 407 ) on Apr-06-08 at 21:26:46 PDT   Listings
D.Benson: While I respect your in-depth philatelic knowledge and your experience as a judge I do take exception to your comment that big ticket items don't enter into the equation. Subjectively money has to talk and influence grading. Subtle but I would bet it's there. Unless human nature has been suspended.
Posted by ladynouveau   ( 1679 ) on Apr-06-08 at 21:12:51 PDT   Listings
I'm seeking help on how to identify the two different printings of the Nauru Freighter stamps. The first was on "unsurfaced, grayish paper" and later printing on "glazed surfaced, white paper." When I have both in front of me, it appears that the "grayish" stamp is darker than the "white" printing, but the paper doesn't look terribly different. There must be a way of telling which is which without having both available. Are there any experts online who know what I should look for in determining which printing is which?
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1513 ) on Apr-06-08 at 19:06:04 PDT   Listings
Richard (1covers)
Neat exhibit!!! :8^ )
Jim L.
member
Posted by dragonstamps   ( 502 ) on Apr-06-08 at 16:39:34 PDT   Listings
Redlion; Your comment that only a fool sells gold...etc.
is ludicrous. In that type of market you had better have a sell price ready, or you're a sheep ready to be slaughtered.
People who sold at $1000 and bought it back at $900 made some really nice profits! I suspect that some bought at $1000 and had to bail on it at $900.
They look like the fools (oops, I mean poor unfortunates who tried to get rich quick in commodities)to me, but... I'm no expert.
I try to follow it, but it looks to chaotic for me to try to guess the path of the prices.

It's commodity trading, and not for the weak of heart.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Apr-06-08 at 16:13:08 PDT   Listings
On second thought ,I think MANHATTENCONCEPTS was correct that most exhibits are done by collectors who spent a lifetime searching and researching to form a worthy collection .

As a side note .......did you know that no research has been done on worldwide collecting and no information is aviable on the subject in the past 40 years .Nothing !!!!! other than a few old farts who were worldwide collectors 10,000 years ago

Posted by mini*lindy   ( 606 ) on Apr-06-08 at 15:15:37 PDT   Listings
Richard, what a beautiful exhibit. thanks for sharing
Posted by redlion48   ( 2617 ) on Apr-06-08 at 14:46:48 PDT   Listings
PAUL wrote on Apr-05-08 at 13:59:31 PDT

"REDLION I thought you were going to say something nice about me selling GOLD at $1,000.00 a ounce before it went to $900.00"

1. Can't you read either? I am REDLION48

2. In this time of economic downturn, only a fool sells gold. Gold & silver are the only tangible commodities to remain after small businesses fall by the wayside, city governments go bankrupt thus offering non-sustainable contacts to contractors, Wall Street bailouts of huge underwriters like Bear-Sterns so you won't lose your 401K, etc, etc, etc.

What did you do? Turn the "profit" from your gold sales into stocks? Bonds. Cash? Oil futures?

I wonder...
Posted by 1covers   ( 1379 ) on Apr-06-08 at 14:42:12 PDT   Listings
A fun collection that will not win anywhere: English Setters In AMerica
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 606 ) on Apr-06-08 at 14:27:13 PDT   Listings
Exhibiting, I agree with David, it is a wonderful way to focus your attention on your material, put it together in an orderly way, and it also helps you to realize what you are missing!

'our' collection is definately my husband's collection, not mine, but I did all the required typing of the exhibition pages etc! His attitude is similar to nomad's friend, he followed the exhibition guidelines of course, but put up what he wanted to show, and doesn't worry about what level medal it achieved. He did well at several Exhibitions, and I'm glad he did because now the collection is in a form which can be enjoyed by anyone who cares to look, not just covers in boxes and cover albums with little or no explanations.
Vic did the same thing with his Postcard Collection, and although we have hundreds NOT mounted, the Exhibit is a great journey through Putney, S.W.London, which can be read and enjoyed like a book.

So, collectors, to focus your collection into something non-philatelic friends can also enjoy, exhibiting is one way to go!
It also brings you to the attention of others, both dealers and collectors, who remember the exhibit and sometimes find another 'gem' for you!

Linda
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1513 ) on Apr-06-08 at 14:24:53 PDT   Listings
Bookmark
Posted by 1covers   ( 1379 ) on Apr-06-08 at 14:08:17 PDT   Listings
David B - I agree completely with you. Also, it lets others know what you collect which can act as a magnent for adding new material.

PS - There is no documentation regarding authorization for the PI stamps in Macau.
Posted by dbenson   ( 9041 ) on Apr-06-08 at 14:05:25 PDT   Listings
Richard, and most importantly of all, it is the best method of organising your material. Two weeks ago I remounted a collection I started in about 1970. It was originally on 10 album pages and my aim was to make it a 16 page One Framer. In the period from 1970 when it was last annotated to now I had acquired about 5 new items (all cancels on stamps, no covers) even though I have been looking from them all the time, but they are exceedingly scarce (but not huge monetary value except covers) and very seldom turn up at Auctions or at dealers. I managed to make 14 pages and will either have to enter it as is later this year or redo some pages to make the 16.

David B.
Posted by 1covers   ( 1379 ) on Apr-06-08 at 13:56:01 PDT   Listings
Exhbiting is a great way of sharing what you collect with similarly minded individuals. It is not about who has spent the most, or who can mount a better exhibit, or even whose exhibit tells the best story. It is about sharing your passion. It should always be fun rather than a medal hunt.
Posted by nomad55   ( 972 ) on Apr-06-08 at 13:37:24 PDT   Listings
Exhibiting......

People have different perceived goals when they exhibit.

A collector here in northern Calif. has the goal of obtaining a gold in every one of the US national shows, and he's well on the way of achieving it with absolutely gorgeous material that's well researched and presented.

When I exhibited expo and worlds fair covers, my goal was to educate and increase interest in that particular field of collecting, and I believe I succeeded.

A colleague of mine exhibited his specialty a few times, with the attitude of "this is what I got, you either like it or hate it". The judges must have liked it, for it would receive vermeils. I have been pressuring him to redo and reorganize his pages for I'm sure he can get a gold, but so far he's not interested.

And having personally seen Roger's razor exhibit, its a beauty, and shows what can be done in the way of new research in an area that no one has delved into before.
Posted by dbenson   ( 9041 ) on Apr-06-08 at 13:25:41 PDT   Listings
Alec,

I presume the comment you made about the Royal member was a misunderstanding. His reply would have been in reference to the Medal level not the entry. It is very often that the exhibitor is one of the last to know the medal level as the Ribbons are placed on the frames overnight and others had noted it before he had. I know that from experience as it happened to me a couple of times.

David B.
Posted by hungaryjim   ( 1025 ) on Apr-06-08 at 12:42:11 PDT   Listings
Hi All

Regarding the posts on exhibiting, I personally quit after exhiting twice, as to go further I would have to spend #1,000's for a rare or scarce high denomination cover showing correct usage. This was too rich for my blood, so I see where it may be a sticking point or turn off to some!

Jimbo2
Posted by dbenson   ( 9041 ) on Apr-06-08 at 12:22:08 PDT   Listings
Other criteria I omitted were " knowledge & research ", collections like Roger's " Razors " would do extremely well in both aspects.

My original comment was concerning " Traditional " stamp collections which is much more difficult to attain high medals than some of the other types of entries,

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 9041 ) on Apr-06-08 at 12:07:40 PDT   Listings
Paul, my comment about exhibition value was " tongue in cheek " in reply to your insulting remark that they can be bought for a few $1000, change the title page and walk away with a Gold. That is an idiotic remark and doesn't occur.

It doesn't matter what the value is as judges don't judge on the value of the collection but on the various aspects of the entry including presentation, importance of the material, rarity and most importantly treatment of the entry. To receive a high medal each criteria has to attain high points. It is only those who are ignorant in the method of judging make remarks such as you usually do.

To enter a major exhibition each entry has to firstly enter local exhibitions and if passes a certain level can proceed to the next level and eventually if good enough can enter full Internatioinals, the entry levels vary in different countries,

David B.
Posted by malolo   ( 893 ) on Apr-06-08 at 11:50:03 PDT   Listings
Aloha -
Interesting discussion about cost of exhibiting.

I have just under 300 items in my exhibit, including maybe 10 which cost over $50. I bought one group of 17 items for $450, all ended up on the pages. There are many under $5 each (can I say hundreds?). $50 seems to be my comfort price - anything over must have philatelic value beyond razor significance. Any item I now purchase must fit directly into the exhibit replacing something else, usually a much clearer strike, or unusual destination, or more colorful cover (sexy value). There are many exhibits I've seen where each frame has items having more resale value than my whole collection.

The line is this -I've seen my exhibit, Iknow what it's about, and I understand how the different items fit into the story. Some exhibitors apparently haven't a clue!

I say go for it. The further I got into accumulating period, the more I learned what was scarce and what was common. I also learned a heck of a lot about the time period and geography (using internet maps is critical to learning about destinaitons).

HAVE FUN@##@#

Roger
Swiss Razor Cancels
Posted by iomoon   ( 1064 ) on Apr-06-08 at 10:20:32 PDT   Listings
Matt

My idea of "shoe-string philately" would be something that cost less than $10 per frame not $100 per frame.
Posted by scottpel3   ( 902 ) on Apr-06-08 at 09:27:30 PDT   Listings
due2cents
I guess I will have to keep looking.
Scott
Posted by paperhistory   ( 1999 ) on Apr-06-08 at 09:06:56 PDT   Listings
At the international level, the judges are explicitly free to consider not only what is there, but what is missing and why. (Under US national rules, the exhibit is supposed to be judged based on what's there, not what is not, but sometimes the holes are hard to miss). Successful international exhibiting tends to require a focus on weightier, more "significant" subjects as well. For example, my Ohio exhibits probably wouldn't do too well internationally.

But it is certainly true that national golds need not be too expensive. My gold one-framer (on the integral rate postmarks of Cincinnati) didn't cost more than $2500 or so despite the presence of a 10 cent 1847 cover and a Brown's local post cover. I suppose I could jack that up if I added some of the other rare local posts that exist with Cincinnati integral markings, or a first day cover of the 3 cent 1851 issue from Cincinnati (a couple exist). But I don't need to.

The WSP show in Milwaukee this fall will test the concept -- they have a theme of "shoe-string philately" this year -- a special subset of the exhibits where the material is not permitted to cost more than $100 per frame. Will be interesting to see if any golds come out of that.
Posted by spain_1850   ( 382 ) on Apr-06-08 at 09:05:32 PDT   Listings
due2 - Yes, you are right. This board scrolls slower than it use to and I'm sure that other people check in every couple days or so, just to "catch up".

So, if anyone has anybody knowledge of early Colombia, please check my message on: Apr-05-08 at 07:25:27 PDT

I'll check back later.
Posted by infla-alec   ( 593 ) on Apr-06-08 at 08:48:38 PDT   Listings
Manhattan Exhibiting is for me not a question of how much over many years how valuable the collection has become. Whether one day I achieve an International Gold remains to be seen. I think that for the majority of exhibitors at any level they enjoy the "sharing aspect" far more than being able to brag about their medal status.

Though I do know of one member of the Royal PS without naming names who was being congratualted on having won a large Gold and when asked what the collection was about he replied, "I don't know, I haven't seen it yet." That said I do know of other collectors who are far from being rich who have also achieved Gold at this very high level.
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-06-08 at 08:47:16 PDT   Listings
Spain
it may take a while but if you show it they will come.
SA is/has always been one of the litest discussed areas here.
The least discussed country , imho, has been Austria.

I'm sure that the Webz and the abiliity to find those rare odd uses have now made exhibits a little more affordable.
I'm sure ROGER's GOLD level exhibit is fairly reasonably priced (Mostly) material.
It's the know;edge and effort it takes to find them
ESP when the Search system consistently being IMPROVED.

SCOTT To bad it does not say YADA-YADA.
Posted by spain_1850   ( 382 ) on Apr-06-08 at 08:03:40 PDT   Listings
It appears that during my absence from this board, some of the other regulars have disappeared as well?
Wasn't there someone here was really into South American countries?
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 87 ) on Apr-06-08 at 07:20:06 PDT   Listings
Surely the defintion of a few thousand is less than ten thousand? Certainly not one cent less than a million Rainer:-) Interesting debate.....
Posted by manhattanconcepts   ( 13 ) on Apr-06-08 at 06:48:43 PDT   Listings
Just popped down from the balcony.I'm nowhere near exhibiting, in fact more a beginner but surely the monetary value of any exhibit is immaterial ? Most of the International Golds won are won by the efforts of ordinary collectors, no ? Yes, no doubt some may have collected/formed with unlimited financial resources but I'd have imagined most would have been formed by the collector who has spent a lifetime searching for,researching and forming such a worthy collection.
Posted by 22028   ( 1692 ) on Apr-06-08 at 05:49:55 PDT   Listings
Paul, with an exhibition collection worth a few thousand $ you will not win a Gold Medal at a international exhibition.., on the other hand, a few thousand $ can be up to 999,999.99 $ and then you might be correct. It must not be million of $$$
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Apr-06-08 at 05:02:24 PDT   Listings
DAVID B. There are very few stamp exhibits that won Gold Medals in international exhibiting worth over a million dollars but the run of the mill exhibits that win some 50 -80 gold medals each year thats some 2,000 exhibits won in my life time are far from that value {most a few thousand }......we must keep this board correct ...right "colonel "
Posted by dragonstamps   ( 502 ) on Apr-06-08 at 02:54:00 PDT   Listings
Mitch/Jim:
Yeah, I'm almost ready to work on just Sweden. They are my favorite stamps, they always have been.

Mitch: Your Jayhawks won, but the next one should be a real battle. Those guys from Memphis look determined.
I don't usually watch much basketball, but the NCAA tournament is always enjoyable, to me.
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1513 ) on Apr-06-08 at 02:42:51 PDT   Listings
:8^(
"from the I smiled" should be "from the back I smiled"
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1513 ) on Apr-06-08 at 02:41:01 PDT   Listings
Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all

due2cents
Nice precancelled perfins. The only Precancelled Perfins I’ve kept as such are from Indiana, all mixed in with my General collection.

scottpel3
When I saw the Perfin from the I smiled also. That’s a keeper all right.

dragonstamps
FWIW I started with US and quickly expanded to World Wide. So, since age nine I’ve been adding to my World Wide used collection. Once I got to where I either wasn’t finding much offered or that I could afford I stumbled into a Cowboy boot box of soaked precancels for $10.00. Spent the next several weeks sorting them out and quickly decided that I could not cover the US, but that Indiana, my home state, I’d give a try. Later I added the Bureaus. I prefer the Noble albums for them. It’s been over 30 years and in the mean time I’ve learned a few things and gotten two new Indiana listings added to the PSS catalogue. I still don’t consider myself an expert in market value by any means.

Jim L.
member
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 678 ) on Apr-06-08 at 00:34:22 PDT   Listings
Correction:
Second line of last post should have read:
The more I know about stamps the more I realize that I do NOT.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 678 ) on Apr-06-08 at 00:29:41 PDT   Listings
Dragon There is a difference in actually knowing something and thinking you do (especially if it is for self gratification).
The more I know about stamps the less I realize that I do NOT.
I would never hope to presume I knew something I did not and post it on this board of intellectuals (well there may be a few exceptions to the intellectual title)
I'm no expert by a long shot (never have claimed to be).
I do however have one large crap load of WW stamps!
Having that, I at least have a good recognition of many items. I've always (since 8 years old, 50 years back) collected the world. I'm probably not intelligent enough to specialize?

My advice young man is GO TO Swedish stamps!!!
I have been buying many over the last year.
As far as I can tell it is the single most country that is selling way below cat prices.
I just noticed the other day I had not scanned and put-up my Sweden on the site. After I get the last Swedes I won last week, I should do so. Only getting down to a few tough ones there.
The World of Stamps
Posted by dragonstamps   ( 502 ) on Apr-05-08 at 23:57:51 PDT   Listings
I have been a worldwide collector since I started to be interested in stamps.
There is no way for me to learn as much in any focused area as someone who is a specialist.
I think that's true for almost everyone.

I don't think that should start fights in this forum, but I SEE that it does.
(At least I'm observant.:)

Since there's no stopping the fighting, I guess I'd like to know how many specialists started out collecting World Wide before getting interested enough to just collect one area?
Or did you start out with a narrow collecting area from the start?

I've been narrowing my collecting, as I don't seem to have the time (or interest?)lately to complete even the most common of stamps for WW.
I'm down to 2-3 serious areas, and 10-20-(50?) areas each lessening in interest.
So maybe I'll end up collecting just one area, who knows?
My guess is someday I'll just study early Swedish stamps.
I wish they weren't so expensive... That might make it more difficult.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 678 ) on Apr-05-08 at 23:41:17 PDT   Listings
Wrd3 Bill, I have to agree with most of what you stated yesterday. I did, however, have a problem with your numbers though. The 70% prize should go to another long time poster, guess who?
Doubt if he will be happy till he reaches 90%.

On the otherhand, BS is BS and some people cannot back away from it and have to call it what it is!

I'm guilty also but I doubt much more than 15%.

Anyone that is interested might go to that other board that was caused from a mass exile from this one (years ago) and take a poll.
No not Richards but Pennies.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 678 ) on Apr-05-08 at 23:31:09 PDT   Listings
Paul I'm sure you do not know the meaning of the word "presumptuous". It does describe you on many occasions.
If you had worded your post something like: "Does anyone know of a listed plate flaw on this particular stamp". There would have been no reason for me to respond.
You, however, stated it was an unknown plate flaw variety. You do not KNOW this. It was PRESUMPTUOUS for you to say so!!!
You wouldn't want to fool all those NEW READERS AND COLLECTORS would you?
One of the only things that continually boggles my mind is the meaning of your exsistance.
No fear, I'm no expert either just a World collector of types.
Are you related to Joe Pesci?
Posted by stamps-4-ever   ( 150 ) on Apr-05-08 at 23:17:35 PDT   Listings
Thanks David B on the information regarding the IPO and IJPO.
Posted by dbenson   ( 9041 ) on Apr-05-08 at 22:21:44 PDT   Listings
Paul, you made a mistake in estimating Gold Medal collections, it should be a " few Million " not a few Thousand ",

David B.
Posted by scottpel3   ( 902 ) on Apr-05-08 at 20:53:55 PDT   Listings
Here is a perfin that made me smile. I guess I am easy to amuse.

http://www.ceremonyprograms.com/Stamps/perfin003a.jpg

http://www.ceremonyprograms.com/Stamps/perfin004a.jpg

Scott
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Apr-05-08 at 20:45:57 PDT   Listings
MITCH It boggles my mind how few philatelic experts there really are .We now call people experts because they own a book about the subject .We also call people who buy gold medal collections for a few thousand dollars and rewrite the title page and then enter another exhibit they are also experts .

We even got people who can find things on the internet and also call them experts . It truely boggles my mind what others think a philatelic expert is .

But have no fear Im a collector only .

We have many people who know German stamps here and they have references let them speak and then I'LL show them proof ,but you have nothing to base your opinion on other than you dislike of me ,which means you don't have a intelligent opinion on the stamp .

Posted by re1wind   ( 284 ) on Apr-05-08 at 19:34:13 PDT   Listings
Maybe a stamp commemorating the abuse of stamps is in order.
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-05-08 at 19:32:22 PDT   Listings
and then stick em on envelopes

man o man


.
Posted by re1wind   ( 284 ) on Apr-05-08 at 19:30:24 PDT   Listings
Stamping them with ugly black ink wasn't enough, then they had to put holes in them ;-)
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-05-08 at 19:24:37 PDT   Listings
back of perfind
here
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-05-08 at 19:16:00 PDT   Listings
HOW about
some PRECAnCELLED PERFINS

I have more than a few of these
BUT I really like the OLDER Precancels as seen on left


Scan-Better-be-here-or-it-Kens-Fault

.WRD
or any perfin guys i think 56.7 78 and 123 on the perfins
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 678 ) on Apr-05-08 at 19:08:46 PDT   Listings
Paul It boggles my mind that you could know (or state) it is an "unknown" plate flaw? If it is actually a plate flaw, I am sure many people know of it. Perhaps a fly just speckled on it.
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1513 ) on Apr-05-08 at 18:55:55 PDT   Listings
re1wind
We precanclers just have to keep asking. Unfortunately for me I lived in the same area as one of the semi-annual mail auctions. The area dealers got very use to holding them for him and would not show until he’s passed on the item or lot. Sure cut my pickens down quite a bit. But I’m not complaining, He’s been a great help several times and I count him a good friend.

Jim L.
member
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Apr-05-08 at 18:51:20 PDT   Listings
NEW DISCOVERY FOR ME ------ SAARLAND unknown variety -plateflaw .......paul
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 678 ) on Apr-05-08 at 18:41:04 PDT   Listings
Matt Thanks, It was either list em or trash em.

I might have to go too town tonight. Methinks there's going to be a big party.
GO JAYHAWKS
Posted by scottpel3   ( 902 ) on Apr-05-08 at 18:18:09 PDT   Listings
Thank you Ken C Due2cents for the posting.
You can see the difference in the color of the two programs.
Scott
Posted by keleofa   ( 3850 ) on Apr-05-08 at 18:06:22 PDT   Listings
Mitchell - Yes... top 2 have coil line pairs, bottom has nice label. If I owned them I would list them.

But, they're not going to realize all that much, IMHO.

Matt in Arizona
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 678 ) on Apr-05-08 at 17:54:41 PDT   Listings
Prexie buffs Would any of these be worth listing? Top two are coils and the bottom (upside down one) obviously, kinda, philatelic.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Apr-05-08 at 17:44:56 PDT   Listings
AS I SAID EARLIER Civil War general who defended Little Round Top -------should read "Civil War colonel who defended Little Round Top " .......In American miltary history a person is addressed with the title at the time of action ,not what was earned later in his career .....sheees
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 678 ) on Apr-05-08 at 17:38:09 PDT   Listings
Pro If you come across any high-grade fungus let me know. Found a crop of Morels last year but they're not my favorites.
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-05-08 at 17:15:48 PDT   Listings
wrd3
yep I'm the type
But really in todays world SHE picked me
I took a little hard postcard sleeve full of early Turkey , found a nice spot to sit, nursed an expensive drink. Acted like I could care less ifin anyone even looked my way.
She knew the stamps were from Turkey.
Her dad had tried to get Her into stamps for years.
Told my sad story of missing the Little one , mean o granama, thought I'd have a drink before I went home to an empty house.
I have a hard time finding stamp supplies locally and must cross a bridge to St Pete for even the simpliest thing.
Grumpy Dealers are a Hoot.
Hope he knew the BUYER of those gold coins
I have seen a lot of dealers getting stuck with funny money.
2 weeks ago at the flea market, announcement over the PA
all dealers stop taking Fifties.
STOP NOW.
I heard about 4 grand passed in a few minutes buying Nice things.
Posted by dbenson   ( 9041 ) on Apr-05-08 at 17:13:16 PDT   Listings
Richard,

The Portuguese India used in Macau is an interesting item, do you know if it was authorised (as in the Antigua 1d. used in St. Kitts because of a shortage) or a sheet was inadvertently supplied to Macau.

David B.
Posted by re1wind   ( 284 ) on Apr-05-08 at 17:12:20 PDT   Listings
Evening all - I went to our local stamp show here in Southern Oregon. It's in conjuction with the annual Pear Blossom Festival. 11 dealers there, small show, but a friendly show, and they get a healthy turn out. Had to do my annual canvasing of the dealers to see if they brought any precancels. 11 dealers, precancels 0. I do it every year just for S's & G's. But this year bing bing bing, one dealer finally asked a question about them. Wanted to know if there are any catalogs for them. So, maybe I might have generated some interest in them. I usually get the response, "oh I just throw THOSE in a box when I find them", and then they look at me like I have herpes. Then they take my name and number but never call...oh well.
It's an annual thing, so I did my duty this year.
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-05-08 at 17:07:56 PDT   Listings
two friggen works
ken it must be catchin
Posted by wrd3   ( 107 ) on Apr-05-08 at 17:07:42 PDT   Listings
due2cents you're who I keep warning my teenage daughter about. : - )

NOIP I've been trying to get my kids interested in stamps for years ... no luck. My son has just been bitten by the coin-collecting bug. I took him to his first coin show today - the first coin show I've attended in 30 years (I briefly collected when I was about his age). Although a bit different from what I recall about coin shows (the most positive change was no smoking), this coin show was very familiar, as it felt just like the stamp shows I've attended these past 4-5 years. Lots of older people, with a smattering of younger people. Some dealers very cordial, very much interested in helping a pre-teen get hooked by the collecting bug, other dealers grumpy, unwilling to spend even a minute with a young collector. The most surprising thing to me was the complete lack of supplies .... not a single dealer (out of perhaps 15-20) had any supplies. One transaction I witnessed was a different than any I'd seen at a stamp show .... a man bought a number of gold coins for $9900. He pulled a wad of $100 bills out of his pocket, removed one, then paid the dealer with the rest. I certainly wouldn't feel comfortable walking around with $10,000 in my pocket!

Bill D.
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-05-08 at 17:06:49 PDT   Listings
kens1,/a>

Two
Posted by kchrist499   ( 1279 ) on Apr-05-08 at 17:02:46 PDT   Listings
AArgh!

http://www.members.aol.com/kchrist499/space1.jpg”> here

http://www.members.aol.com/kchrist499/space2.jpg”> here

Posted by kchrist499   ( 1279 ) on Apr-05-08 at 17:00:52 PDT   Listings
Scott

Yes, that's the one, only I didn't think I scanned it that big!

By the way I think I have the HTML thing right... I made it into a file, so now all I need to do is copy it. (I'll bet you guys have been doing that all along!)

Anyway, here goes: the Twin Space Stamp Ceremony.

http://www.members.aol.com/kchrist499/space1.jpg”> here

http://www.members.aol.com/kchrist499/space2.jpg”> here.

Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-05-08 at 15:10:58 PDT   Listings
that's why they call them Actor's :-}
Posted by dragonstamps   ( 502 ) on Apr-05-08 at 15:09:34 PDT   Listings
You can also watch the movie Gettysburg.

It's long and has a few flaws, but it's worth watching for the little round top scenes alone.

Then watch dumb and dumber. (J/K)
It's hard to believe the same guy could play both roles.
Posted by 220man   ( 174 ) on Apr-05-08 at 15:03:05 PDT   Listings
All: For anyone interested in Chamberlain and the critical part he played at Gettysburg, I heartily recommend Michael Shaara's "The Killer Angels." It is one of the best historical war novels that I've ever read.

Phil
Posted by thines   ( 1594 ) on Apr-05-08 at 14:44:57 PDT   Listings
Oops - He died in 1914, not 1913. And David B is right. He should have been honored long ago. It's amazing he wasn't on one of the 1995 Civil War stamps.

Terence Hines

Posted by thines   ( 1594 ) on Apr-05-08 at 14:35:48 PDT   Listings
Chamberlain was a colonel when he defended Little Round Top. But he ended the war a general. He went on the be governonr of Maine 4 times and President of Bowdoin College. He died in 1913. For those interested, there is an excellent biography of Chamberlain:

"In the Hands of Providence. Joshua L. Chamberlain and the American Civil War" by Allice Trulock, published in 1992 by the University of North Carolina Press.

Terence Hines

Posted by dbenson   ( 9032 ) on Apr-05-08 at 14:29:51 PDT   Listings
Paul,

just read the bio of General Chamberlain,

http://www.geocities.com/athens/aegean/6732/files/jlc1.html

Should have been " stamped " many years ago,

David B.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Apr-05-08 at 13:59:31 PDT   Listings
REDLION I thought you were going to say something nice about me selling GOLD at $1,000.00 a ounce before it went to $900.00 not that Im a bad spelling ,but thats OK .....at least I didn't call Colonel Chamberlain a General ......paul
Posted by sneeky37   ( 237 ) on Apr-05-08 at 13:33:03 PDT   Listings
A VERY GOOD wink DAY TO ALL!!
Posted by scottpel3   ( 900 ) on Apr-05-08 at 13:10:29 PDT   Listings
Ken C
Is this the program you were trying to post?

http://www.ceremonyprograms.com/programs/spacetwinprog002.jpg

It is an interesting program in that in comes on 3 different types of paper and several shades usually similar to peach.

Scott
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-05-08 at 12:38:59 PDT   Listings
12345

I was not on the hunt for anything postal when I left last nite.
BUT the hunt was successful met a nice young lady from UConn (go huskies)
she made me breakfast using my bacon.
Nice
Mom was right
Go have fun , get out your house, have a beer or two
R&R is a necessary evil ;-}
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1510 ) on Apr-05-08 at 12:36:48 PDT   Listings
due2cents
Glad you liked the cover. I’ve not been able to chase down much info on the cover. If someone knows about how many were flow I’d love to hear to so I can add that note to it’s page.

antonius-ra
I don’t consider myself ignored when you have no reason to be chatting. I’m glad to chat about precans that are not from Indiana, but they are my first love when it comes to collecting. IF you ever find some neat Indiana item and show it here on the board I’ll be delighted to look. Who knows, you just might find something that would teach me a thing or two.

Jim L.
member
Posted by redlion48   ( 2616 ) on Apr-05-08 at 11:41:27 PDT   Listings
As PAUL so eloquently stated on Apr-04-08 at 21:28:26 PDT
"It is the fun of the hunt.... perf.varities,and unusal plate varitions."

What are varities & varitions??

Are they just as unusal as nucular weopans??
Posted by bjornmu   ( 1017 ) on Apr-05-08 at 11:38:51 PDT   Listings
Hmm, did someone mail a letter from the toilet?
Posted by keleofa   ( 3848 ) on Apr-05-08 at 11:03:56 PDT   Listings
Matt,

I thought it might be something local other than an official town name. I guess back then people assumed letter carriers knew how to get letters to their destinations without ZIP+4!

Matt in Arizona
Posted by paperhistory   ( 1999 ) on Apr-05-08 at 11:00:01 PDT   Listings
Matt: there's a Marble Springs Road just south of Arcade if you look on google maps. I don't see a Bunker Hill, though.
Posted by 220man   ( 174 ) on Apr-05-08 at 10:43:05 PDT   Listings
Chamberlain was also a Medal of Honor recipient.
Posted by 220man   ( 174 ) on Apr-05-08 at 10:41:53 PDT   Listings
Terrence: Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain

Phil
Posted by keleofa   ( 3848 ) on Apr-05-08 at 10:38:51 PDT   Listings
Matt,

RFD Carrier cancels -- Yes, but I can't locate those 2 towns.

Matt in Arizona
Posted by keleofa   ( 3848 ) on Apr-05-08 at 10:38:06 PDT   Listings
Matt,

Forgot about Bradbury -- is Heinlein still alive?

Matt in Arizona
Posted by paperhistory   ( 1999 ) on Apr-05-08 at 10:33:26 PDT   Listings
Matt in AZ: those are almost certainly RFD carrier cancels. I like your idea for the sci-fi block of 4. It'll take 5 years though (the 10-year rule was recently changed to 5). Or maybe we hang on and do a strip of 5 once Ray Bradbury is gone. But my guess is that Vonnegut will get a stamp and the rest will get shafted.
Posted by keleofa   ( 3848 ) on Apr-05-08 at 10:16:42 PDT   Listings
Terence,

Block of 4:

Issac Asimov, Arthur C. Clarke, Robert Heinlein, Kurt Vonnegut

Matt in Arizona
Posted by keleofa   ( 3848 ) on Apr-05-08 at 10:12:46 PDT   Listings
Terence,

You really shouldn't have included yourself at the bottom of that list --- I'm sure you think you're important, but you need to be dead 10 years to be commemorated on a US stamp! :-)

I remember reading Bob Keeshan was a war hero on Iwo Jima.

My answer from that list: Issac Asimov

Matt in Arizona
Posted by thines   ( 1594 ) on Apr-05-08 at 08:51:02 PDT   Listings
Topic for discussion:

Whom do you think should have been honored on a stamp (US or other nation), but has not been, yet? I'll start off with a small list.

Isaac Asimov

Johnny Carson*

Joshua Chamberlain (Civil War general who defended Little Round Top at Gettysburg)

Bob Keeshan (Captain Kangaroo)*

H.P. Lovecraft (horror fiction writer)

B.F. Skinner

Alos Alzheimer

*Not dead long enough yet

Terence Hines
Posted by deh3   ( 2363 ) on Apr-05-08 at 08:20:16 PDT   Listings
The error (for anyone who is interested) pointed out by Taodave in Richard's wonderful page is "Portugese" for "Portuguese". Not only have I made this error, but when I was editor of BNATopics, I "corrected" all the occurrences (many dozens) of the correct spelling to this incorrect one in an article dealing with mail from Newfoundland to Portugal. [Despite that, the author won the Pratt award---including $1000---for best Newf'd article that year.] That's my mea culpa for the year.

David H
Posted by taodave   ( 140 ) on Apr-05-08 at 08:11:00 PDT   Listings
Richard,

Wonderful Macao page. But there is a common spelling error (I've committed it myself on exhibit pages, more th