eBay chatboard archive: Mar-31-08 to Apr-06-08 week

Posted by dbenson   ( 9041 ) on Apr-06-08 at 23:32:47 PDT   Listings
Breffington, you lost me, where did I say

" big ticket items don't enter into the equation ",

To get a high medal (Large Vermeil, Gold & Large Gold) any collection DOES need some big ticket items but it doesn't mean that it needs all expensive & rare material. Commoner material should be left at home as there is no need to show it but interesting material, no matter the value should be shown. Points will be lost if common, run of the mill, everyday material is shown.

re your comment

" Subjectively money has to talk and influence grading "

The points system allocates 20 points for rarity and it has to be exceptional to attain high points. It all depends on what is being exhibited as some entries can attain high points without outlaying large amounts of money but if a very popular and expensive area is being shown then of course the better material is going to be expensive,

SHOUTING ON PURPOSE,

JUDGES DO NOT ALLOCATE POINTS FOR RARITY BY VALUING THE MATERIAL, THEY ALLOCATE THEM BY THE SCARCITY OR LACK OF IT,

High points are often given for material that is of low value but scarce.

I mentioned that I have just finished a one framer, most of the material is worth $10 or less but I have only managed to find 5 items in almost 40 years and have been looking all the time,

David B.
Posted by ladynouveau   ( 1679 ) on Apr-06-08 at 23:01:21 PDT   Listings
Roger,

I don't have a UV light, but I do have a bright lamp on my desk. Your method seems to work pretty well. I can see the shine - and lack of shine - on the stamps I'm sure of. I'll look around for a UV light to provide further confirmation of my visual identifications. Thanks a lot!

Dave (Ladynouveau's husband)
Posted by malolo   ( 893 ) on Apr-06-08 at 22:13:43 PDT   Listings
ladynouveau -

One other method may be to hold the stamp at an angle to a bright light and see if the pronted surface of the stamp looks shiny. This would be the "glazed surface" usually a chalk filler between the paper fibers. The unsurfaced paper wil not appear shiny, but instead will have a dull look no matter how you angle the stamp to the light.

Roger
Posted by malolo   ( 893 ) on Apr-06-08 at 22:10:23 PDT   Listings
ladynouveau -
If you have access to a UV lamp, place both stamps together under the light. You might discover the greyish paper does not show bright white, but the whiter paper will. Some old Swiss stamps can be separated in this manner. Brighteners that make paper whiter, fluoresce. Once you have determined if this method works, all stamps from that series can be identified easily.

Roger
Swiss Razor Cancels
Posted by breffington   ( 407 ) on Apr-06-08 at 21:26:46 PDT   Listings
D.Benson: While I respect your in-depth philatelic knowledge and your experience as a judge I do take exception to your comment that big ticket items don't enter into the equation. Subjectively money has to talk and influence grading. Subtle but I would bet it's there. Unless human nature has been suspended.
Posted by ladynouveau   ( 1679 ) on Apr-06-08 at 21:12:51 PDT   Listings
I'm seeking help on how to identify the two different printings of the Nauru Freighter stamps. The first was on "unsurfaced, grayish paper" and later printing on "glazed surfaced, white paper." When I have both in front of me, it appears that the "grayish" stamp is darker than the "white" printing, but the paper doesn't look terribly different. There must be a way of telling which is which without having both available. Are there any experts online who know what I should look for in determining which printing is which?
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1513 ) on Apr-06-08 at 19:06:04 PDT   Listings
Richard (1covers)
Neat exhibit!!! :8^ )
Jim L.
member
Posted by dragonstamps   ( 502 ) on Apr-06-08 at 16:39:34 PDT   Listings
Redlion; Your comment that only a fool sells gold...etc.
is ludicrous. In that type of market you had better have a sell price ready, or you're a sheep ready to be slaughtered.
People who sold at $1000 and bought it back at $900 made some really nice profits! I suspect that some bought at $1000 and had to bail on it at $900.
They look like the fools (oops, I mean poor unfortunates who tried to get rich quick in commodities)to me, but... I'm no expert.
I try to follow it, but it looks to chaotic for me to try to guess the path of the prices.

It's commodity trading, and not for the weak of heart.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Apr-06-08 at 16:13:08 PDT   Listings
On second thought ,I think MANHATTENCONCEPTS was correct that most exhibits are done by collectors who spent a lifetime searching and researching to form a worthy collection .

As a side note .......did you know that no research has been done on worldwide collecting and no information is aviable on the subject in the past 40 years .Nothing !!!!! other than a few old farts who were worldwide collectors 10,000 years ago

Posted by mini*lindy   ( 606 ) on Apr-06-08 at 15:15:37 PDT   Listings
Richard, what a beautiful exhibit. thanks for sharing
Posted by redlion48   ( 2617 ) on Apr-06-08 at 14:46:48 PDT   Listings
PAUL wrote on Apr-05-08 at 13:59:31 PDT

"REDLION I thought you were going to say something nice about me selling GOLD at $1,000.00 a ounce before it went to $900.00"

1. Can't you read either? I am REDLION48

2. In this time of economic downturn, only a fool sells gold. Gold & silver are the only tangible commodities to remain after small businesses fall by the wayside, city governments go bankrupt thus offering non-sustainable contacts to contractors, Wall Street bailouts of huge underwriters like Bear-Sterns so you won't lose your 401K, etc, etc, etc.

What did you do? Turn the "profit" from your gold sales into stocks? Bonds. Cash? Oil futures?

I wonder...
Posted by 1covers   ( 1379 ) on Apr-06-08 at 14:42:12 PDT   Listings
A fun collection that will not win anywhere: English Setters In AMerica
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 606 ) on Apr-06-08 at 14:27:13 PDT   Listings
Exhibiting, I agree with David, it is a wonderful way to focus your attention on your material, put it together in an orderly way, and it also helps you to realize what you are missing!

'our' collection is definately my husband's collection, not mine, but I did all the required typing of the exhibition pages etc! His attitude is similar to nomad's friend, he followed the exhibition guidelines of course, but put up what he wanted to show, and doesn't worry about what level medal it achieved. He did well at several Exhibitions, and I'm glad he did because now the collection is in a form which can be enjoyed by anyone who cares to look, not just covers in boxes and cover albums with little or no explanations.
Vic did the same thing with his Postcard Collection, and although we have hundreds NOT mounted, the Exhibit is a great journey through Putney, S.W.London, which can be read and enjoyed like a book.

So, collectors, to focus your collection into something non-philatelic friends can also enjoy, exhibiting is one way to go!
It also brings you to the attention of others, both dealers and collectors, who remember the exhibit and sometimes find another 'gem' for you!

Linda
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1513 ) on Apr-06-08 at 14:24:53 PDT   Listings
Bookmark
Posted by 1covers   ( 1379 ) on Apr-06-08 at 14:08:17 PDT   Listings
David B - I agree completely with you. Also, it lets others know what you collect which can act as a magnent for adding new material.

PS - There is no documentation regarding authorization for the PI stamps in Macau.
Posted by dbenson   ( 9041 ) on Apr-06-08 at 14:05:25 PDT   Listings
Richard, and most importantly of all, it is the best method of organising your material. Two weeks ago I remounted a collection I started in about 1970. It was originally on 10 album pages and my aim was to make it a 16 page One Framer. In the period from 1970 when it was last annotated to now I had acquired about 5 new items (all cancels on stamps, no covers) even though I have been looking from them all the time, but they are exceedingly scarce (but not huge monetary value except covers) and very seldom turn up at Auctions or at dealers. I managed to make 14 pages and will either have to enter it as is later this year or redo some pages to make the 16.

David B.
Posted by 1covers   ( 1379 ) on Apr-06-08 at 13:56:01 PDT   Listings
Exhbiting is a great way of sharing what you collect with similarly minded individuals. It is not about who has spent the most, or who can mount a better exhibit, or even whose exhibit tells the best story. It is about sharing your passion. It should always be fun rather than a medal hunt.
Posted by nomad55   ( 972 ) on Apr-06-08 at 13:37:24 PDT   Listings
Exhibiting......

People have different perceived goals when they exhibit.

A collector here in northern Calif. has the goal of obtaining a gold in every one of the US national shows, and he's well on the way of achieving it with absolutely gorgeous material that's well researched and presented.

When I exhibited expo and worlds fair covers, my goal was to educate and increase interest in that particular field of collecting, and I believe I succeeded.

A colleague of mine exhibited his specialty a few times, with the attitude of "this is what I got, you either like it or hate it". The judges must have liked it, for it would receive vermeils. I have been pressuring him to redo and reorganize his pages for I'm sure he can get a gold, but so far he's not interested.

And having personally seen Roger's razor exhibit, its a beauty, and shows what can be done in the way of new research in an area that no one has delved into before.
Posted by dbenson   ( 9041 ) on Apr-06-08 at 13:25:41 PDT   Listings
Alec,

I presume the comment you made about the Royal member was a misunderstanding. His reply would have been in reference to the Medal level not the entry. It is very often that the exhibitor is one of the last to know the medal level as the Ribbons are placed on the frames overnight and others had noted it before he had. I know that from experience as it happened to me a couple of times.

David B.
Posted by hungaryjim   ( 1025 ) on Apr-06-08 at 12:42:11 PDT   Listings
Hi All

Regarding the posts on exhibiting, I personally quit after exhiting twice, as to go further I would have to spend #1,000's for a rare or scarce high denomination cover showing correct usage. This was too rich for my blood, so I see where it may be a sticking point or turn off to some!

Jimbo2
Posted by dbenson   ( 9041 ) on Apr-06-08 at 12:22:08 PDT   Listings
Other criteria I omitted were " knowledge & research ", collections like Roger's " Razors " would do extremely well in both aspects.

My original comment was concerning " Traditional " stamp collections which is much more difficult to attain high medals than some of the other types of entries,

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 9041 ) on Apr-06-08 at 12:07:40 PDT   Listings
Paul, my comment about exhibition value was " tongue in cheek " in reply to your insulting remark that they can be bought for a few $1000, change the title page and walk away with a Gold. That is an idiotic remark and doesn't occur.

It doesn't matter what the value is as judges don't judge on the value of the collection but on the various aspects of the entry including presentation, importance of the material, rarity and most importantly treatment of the entry. To receive a high medal each criteria has to attain high points. It is only those who are ignorant in the method of judging make remarks such as you usually do.

To enter a major exhibition each entry has to firstly enter local exhibitions and if passes a certain level can proceed to the next level and eventually if good enough can enter full Internatioinals, the entry levels vary in different countries,

David B.
Posted by malolo   ( 893 ) on Apr-06-08 at 11:50:03 PDT   Listings
Aloha -
Interesting discussion about cost of exhibiting.

I have just under 300 items in my exhibit, including maybe 10 which cost over $50. I bought one group of 17 items for $450, all ended up on the pages. There are many under $5 each (can I say hundreds?). $50 seems to be my comfort price - anything over must have philatelic value beyond razor significance. Any item I now purchase must fit directly into the exhibit replacing something else, usually a much clearer strike, or unusual destination, or more colorful cover (sexy value). There are many exhibits I've seen where each frame has items having more resale value than my whole collection.

The line is this -I've seen my exhibit, Iknow what it's about, and I understand how the different items fit into the story. Some exhibitors apparently haven't a clue!

I say go for it. The further I got into accumulating period, the more I learned what was scarce and what was common. I also learned a heck of a lot about the time period and geography (using internet maps is critical to learning about destinaitons).

HAVE FUN@##@#

Roger
Swiss Razor Cancels
Posted by iomoon   ( 1064 ) on Apr-06-08 at 10:20:32 PDT   Listings
Matt

My idea of "shoe-string philately" would be something that cost less than $10 per frame not $100 per frame.
Posted by scottpel3   ( 902 ) on Apr-06-08 at 09:27:30 PDT   Listings
due2cents
I guess I will have to keep looking.
Scott
Posted by paperhistory   ( 1999 ) on Apr-06-08 at 09:06:56 PDT   Listings
At the international level, the judges are explicitly free to consider not only what is there, but what is missing and why. (Under US national rules, the exhibit is supposed to be judged based on what's there, not what is not, but sometimes the holes are hard to miss). Successful international exhibiting tends to require a focus on weightier, more "significant" subjects as well. For example, my Ohio exhibits probably wouldn't do too well internationally.

But it is certainly true that national golds need not be too expensive. My gold one-framer (on the integral rate postmarks of Cincinnati) didn't cost more than $2500 or so despite the presence of a 10 cent 1847 cover and a Brown's local post cover. I suppose I could jack that up if I added some of the other rare local posts that exist with Cincinnati integral markings, or a first day cover of the 3 cent 1851 issue from Cincinnati (a couple exist). But I don't need to.

The WSP show in Milwaukee this fall will test the concept -- they have a theme of "shoe-string philately" this year -- a special subset of the exhibits where the material is not permitted to cost more than $100 per frame. Will be interesting to see if any golds come out of that.
Posted by spain_1850   ( 382 ) on Apr-06-08 at 09:05:32 PDT   Listings
due2 - Yes, you are right. This board scrolls slower than it use to and I'm sure that other people check in every couple days or so, just to "catch up".

So, if anyone has anybody knowledge of early Colombia, please check my message on: Apr-05-08 at 07:25:27 PDT

I'll check back later.
Posted by infla-alec   ( 593 ) on Apr-06-08 at 08:48:38 PDT   Listings
Manhattan Exhibiting is for me not a question of how much over many years how valuable the collection has become. Whether one day I achieve an International Gold remains to be seen. I think that for the majority of exhibitors at any level they enjoy the "sharing aspect" far more than being able to brag about their medal status.

Though I do know of one member of the Royal PS without naming names who was being congratualted on having won a large Gold and when asked what the collection was about he replied, "I don't know, I haven't seen it yet." That said I do know of other collectors who are far from being rich who have also achieved Gold at this very high level.
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-06-08 at 08:47:16 PDT   Listings
Spain
it may take a while but if you show it they will come.
SA is/has always been one of the litest discussed areas here.
The least discussed country , imho, has been Austria.

I'm sure that the Webz and the abiliity to find those rare odd uses have now made exhibits a little more affordable.
I'm sure ROGER's GOLD level exhibit is fairly reasonably priced (Mostly) material.
It's the know;edge and effort it takes to find them
ESP when the Search system consistently being IMPROVED.

SCOTT To bad it does not say YADA-YADA.
Posted by spain_1850   ( 382 ) on Apr-06-08 at 08:03:40 PDT   Listings
It appears that during my absence from this board, some of the other regulars have disappeared as well?
Wasn't there someone here was really into South American countries?
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 87 ) on Apr-06-08 at 07:20:06 PDT   Listings
Surely the defintion of a few thousand is less than ten thousand? Certainly not one cent less than a million Rainer:-) Interesting debate.....
Posted by manhattanconcepts   ( 13 ) on Apr-06-08 at 06:48:43 PDT   Listings
Just popped down from the balcony.I'm nowhere near exhibiting, in fact more a beginner but surely the monetary value of any exhibit is immaterial ? Most of the International Golds won are won by the efforts of ordinary collectors, no ? Yes, no doubt some may have collected/formed with unlimited financial resources but I'd have imagined most would have been formed by the collector who has spent a lifetime searching for,researching and forming such a worthy collection.
Posted by 22028   ( 1692 ) on Apr-06-08 at 05:49:55 PDT   Listings
Paul, with an exhibition collection worth a few thousand $ you will not win a Gold Medal at a international exhibition.., on the other hand, a few thousand $ can be up to 999,999.99 $ and then you might be correct. It must not be million of $$$
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Apr-06-08 at 05:02:24 PDT   Listings
DAVID B. There are very few stamp exhibits that won Gold Medals in international exhibiting worth over a million dollars but the run of the mill exhibits that win some 50 -80 gold medals each year thats some 2,000 exhibits won in my life time are far from that value {most a few thousand }......we must keep this board correct ...right "colonel "
Posted by dragonstamps   ( 502 ) on Apr-06-08 at 02:54:00 PDT   Listings
Mitch/Jim:
Yeah, I'm almost ready to work on just Sweden. They are my favorite stamps, they always have been.

Mitch: Your Jayhawks won, but the next one should be a real battle. Those guys from Memphis look determined.
I don't usually watch much basketball, but the NCAA tournament is always enjoyable, to me.
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1513 ) on Apr-06-08 at 02:42:51 PDT   Listings
:8^(
"from the I smiled" should be "from the back I smiled"
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1513 ) on Apr-06-08 at 02:41:01 PDT   Listings
Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all

due2cents
Nice precancelled perfins. The only Precancelled Perfins I’ve kept as such are from Indiana, all mixed in with my General collection.

scottpel3
When I saw the Perfin from the I smiled also. That’s a keeper all right.

dragonstamps
FWIW I started with US and quickly expanded to World Wide. So, since age nine I’ve been adding to my World Wide used collection. Once I got to where I either wasn’t finding much offered or that I could afford I stumbled into a Cowboy boot box of soaked precancels for $10.00. Spent the next several weeks sorting them out and quickly decided that I could not cover the US, but that Indiana, my home state, I’d give a try. Later I added the Bureaus. I prefer the Noble albums for them. It’s been over 30 years and in the mean time I’ve learned a few things and gotten two new Indiana listings added to the PSS catalogue. I still don’t consider myself an expert in market value by any means.

Jim L.
member
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 678 ) on Apr-06-08 at 00:34:22 PDT   Listings
Correction:
Second line of last post should have read:
The more I know about stamps the more I realize that I do NOT.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 678 ) on Apr-06-08 at 00:29:41 PDT   Listings
Dragon There is a difference in actually knowing something and thinking you do (especially if it is for self gratification).
The more I know about stamps the less I realize that I do NOT.
I would never hope to presume I knew something I did not and post it on this board of intellectuals (well there may be a few exceptions to the intellectual title)
I'm no expert by a long shot (never have claimed to be).
I do however have one large crap load of WW stamps!
Having that, I at least have a good recognition of many items. I've always (since 8 years old, 50 years back) collected the world. I'm probably not intelligent enough to specialize?

My advice young man is GO TO Swedish stamps!!!
I have been buying many over the last year.
As far as I can tell it is the single most country that is selling way below cat prices.
I just noticed the other day I had not scanned and put-up my Sweden on the site. After I get the last Swedes I won last week, I should do so. Only getting down to a few tough ones there.
The World of Stamps
Posted by dragonstamps   ( 502 ) on Apr-05-08 at 23:57:51 PDT   Listings
I have been a worldwide collector since I started to be interested in stamps.
There is no way for me to learn as much in any focused area as someone who is a specialist.
I think that's true for almost everyone.

I don't think that should start fights in this forum, but I SEE that it does.
(At least I'm observant.:)

Since there's no stopping the fighting, I guess I'd like to know how many specialists started out collecting World Wide before getting interested enough to just collect one area?
Or did you start out with a narrow collecting area from the start?

I've been narrowing my collecting, as I don't seem to have the time (or interest?)lately to complete even the most common of stamps for WW.
I'm down to 2-3 serious areas, and 10-20-(50?) areas each lessening in interest.
So maybe I'll end up collecting just one area, who knows?
My guess is someday I'll just study early Swedish stamps.
I wish they weren't so expensive... That might make it more difficult.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 678 ) on Apr-05-08 at 23:41:17 PDT   Listings
Wrd3 Bill, I have to agree with most of what you stated yesterday. I did, however, have a problem with your numbers though. The 70% prize should go to another long time poster, guess who?
Doubt if he will be happy till he reaches 90%.

On the otherhand, BS is BS and some people cannot back away from it and have to call it what it is!

I'm guilty also but I doubt much more than 15%.

Anyone that is interested might go to that other board that was caused from a mass exile from this one (years ago) and take a poll.
No not Richards but Pennies.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 678 ) on Apr-05-08 at 23:31:09 PDT   Listings
Paul I'm sure you do not know the meaning of the word "presumptuous". It does describe you on many occasions.
If you had worded your post something like: "Does anyone know of a listed plate flaw on this particular stamp". There would have been no reason for me to respond.
You, however, stated it was an unknown plate flaw variety. You do not KNOW this. It was PRESUMPTUOUS for you to say so!!!
You wouldn't want to fool all those NEW READERS AND COLLECTORS would you?
One of the only things that continually boggles my mind is the meaning of your exsistance.
No fear, I'm no expert either just a World collector of types.
Are you related to Joe Pesci?
Posted by stamps-4-ever   ( 150 ) on Apr-05-08 at 23:17:35 PDT   Listings
Thanks David B on the information regarding the IPO and IJPO.
Posted by dbenson   ( 9041 ) on Apr-05-08 at 22:21:44 PDT   Listings
Paul, you made a mistake in estimating Gold Medal collections, it should be a " few Million " not a few Thousand ",

David B.
Posted by scottpel3   ( 902 ) on Apr-05-08 at 20:53:55 PDT   Listings
Here is a perfin that made me smile. I guess I am easy to amuse.

http://www.ceremonyprograms.com/Stamps/perfin003a.jpg

http://www.ceremonyprograms.com/Stamps/perfin004a.jpg

Scott
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Apr-05-08 at 20:45:57 PDT   Listings
MITCH It boggles my mind how few philatelic experts there really are .We now call people experts because they own a book about the subject .We also call people who buy gold medal collections for a few thousand dollars and rewrite the title page and then enter another exhibit they are also experts .

We even got people who can find things on the internet and also call them experts . It truely boggles my mind what others think a philatelic expert is .

But have no fear Im a collector only .

We have many people who know German stamps here and they have references let them speak and then I'LL show them proof ,but you have nothing to base your opinion on other than you dislike of me ,which means you don't have a intelligent opinion on the stamp .

Posted by re1wind   ( 284 ) on Apr-05-08 at 19:34:13 PDT   Listings
Maybe a stamp commemorating the abuse of stamps is in order.
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-05-08 at 19:32:22 PDT   Listings
and then stick em on envelopes

man o man


.
Posted by re1wind   ( 284 ) on Apr-05-08 at 19:30:24 PDT   Listings
Stamping them with ugly black ink wasn't enough, then they had to put holes in them ;-)
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-05-08 at 19:24:37 PDT   Listings
back of perfind
here
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-05-08 at 19:16:00 PDT   Listings
HOW about
some PRECAnCELLED PERFINS

I have more than a few of these
BUT I really like the OLDER Precancels as seen on left


Scan-Better-be-here-or-it-Kens-Fault

.WRD
or any perfin guys i think 56.7 78 and 123 on the perfins
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 678 ) on Apr-05-08 at 19:08:46 PDT   Listings
Paul It boggles my mind that you could know (or state) it is an "unknown" plate flaw? If it is actually a plate flaw, I am sure many people know of it. Perhaps a fly just speckled on it.
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1513 ) on Apr-05-08 at 18:55:55 PDT   Listings
re1wind
We precanclers just have to keep asking. Unfortunately for me I lived in the same area as one of the semi-annual mail auctions. The area dealers got very use to holding them for him and would not show until he’s passed on the item or lot. Sure cut my pickens down quite a bit. But I’m not complaining, He’s been a great help several times and I count him a good friend.

Jim L.
member
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Apr-05-08 at 18:51:20 PDT   Listings
NEW DISCOVERY FOR ME ------ SAARLAND unknown variety -plateflaw .......paul
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 678 ) on Apr-05-08 at 18:41:04 PDT   Listings
Matt Thanks, It was either list em or trash em.

I might have to go too town tonight. Methinks there's going to be a big party.
GO JAYHAWKS
Posted by scottpel3   ( 902 ) on Apr-05-08 at 18:18:09 PDT   Listings
Thank you Ken C Due2cents for the posting.
You can see the difference in the color of the two programs.
Scott
Posted by keleofa   ( 3850 ) on Apr-05-08 at 18:06:22 PDT   Listings
Mitchell - Yes... top 2 have coil line pairs, bottom has nice label. If I owned them I would list them.

But, they're not going to realize all that much, IMHO.

Matt in Arizona
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 678 ) on Apr-05-08 at 17:54:41 PDT   Listings
Prexie buffs Would any of these be worth listing? Top two are coils and the bottom (upside down one) obviously, kinda, philatelic.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Apr-05-08 at 17:44:56 PDT   Listings
AS I SAID EARLIER Civil War general who defended Little Round Top -------should read "Civil War colonel who defended Little Round Top " .......In American miltary history a person is addressed with the title at the time of action ,not what was earned later in his career .....sheees
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 678 ) on Apr-05-08 at 17:38:09 PDT   Listings
Pro If you come across any high-grade fungus let me know. Found a crop of Morels last year but they're not my favorites.
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-05-08 at 17:15:48 PDT   Listings
wrd3
yep I'm the type
But really in todays world SHE picked me
I took a little hard postcard sleeve full of early Turkey , found a nice spot to sit, nursed an expensive drink. Acted like I could care less ifin anyone even looked my way.
She knew the stamps were from Turkey.
Her dad had tried to get Her into stamps for years.
Told my sad story of missing the Little one , mean o granama, thought I'd have a drink before I went home to an empty house.
I have a hard time finding stamp supplies locally and must cross a bridge to St Pete for even the simpliest thing.
Grumpy Dealers are a Hoot.
Hope he knew the BUYER of those gold coins
I have seen a lot of dealers getting stuck with funny money.
2 weeks ago at the flea market, announcement over the PA
all dealers stop taking Fifties.
STOP NOW.
I heard about 4 grand passed in a few minutes buying Nice things.
Posted by dbenson   ( 9041 ) on Apr-05-08 at 17:13:16 PDT   Listings
Richard,

The Portuguese India used in Macau is an interesting item, do you know if it was authorised (as in the Antigua 1d. used in St. Kitts because of a shortage) or a sheet was inadvertently supplied to Macau.

David B.
Posted by re1wind   ( 284 ) on Apr-05-08 at 17:12:20 PDT   Listings
Evening all - I went to our local stamp show here in Southern Oregon. It's in conjuction with the annual Pear Blossom Festival. 11 dealers there, small show, but a friendly show, and they get a healthy turn out. Had to do my annual canvasing of the dealers to see if they brought any precancels. 11 dealers, precancels 0. I do it every year just for S's & G's. But this year bing bing bing, one dealer finally asked a question about them. Wanted to know if there are any catalogs for them. So, maybe I might have generated some interest in them. I usually get the response, "oh I just throw THOSE in a box when I find them", and then they look at me like I have herpes. Then they take my name and number but never call...oh well.
It's an annual thing, so I did my duty this year.
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-05-08 at 17:07:56 PDT   Listings
two friggen works
ken it must be catchin
Posted by wrd3   ( 107 ) on Apr-05-08 at 17:07:42 PDT   Listings
due2cents you're who I keep warning my teenage daughter about. : - )

NOIP I've been trying to get my kids interested in stamps for years ... no luck. My son has just been bitten by the coin-collecting bug. I took him to his first coin show today - the first coin show I've attended in 30 years (I briefly collected when I was about his age). Although a bit different from what I recall about coin shows (the most positive change was no smoking), this coin show was very familiar, as it felt just like the stamp shows I've attended these past 4-5 years. Lots of older people, with a smattering of younger people. Some dealers very cordial, very much interested in helping a pre-teen get hooked by the collecting bug, other dealers grumpy, unwilling to spend even a minute with a young collector. The most surprising thing to me was the complete lack of supplies .... not a single dealer (out of perhaps 15-20) had any supplies. One transaction I witnessed was a different than any I'd seen at a stamp show .... a man bought a number of gold coins for $9900. He pulled a wad of $100 bills out of his pocket, removed one, then paid the dealer with the rest. I certainly wouldn't feel comfortable walking around with $10,000 in my pocket!

Bill D.
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-05-08 at 17:06:49 PDT   Listings
kens1,/a>

Two
Posted by kchrist499   ( 1279 ) on Apr-05-08 at 17:02:46 PDT   Listings
AArgh!

http://www.members.aol.com/kchrist499/space1.jpg”> here

http://www.members.aol.com/kchrist499/space2.jpg”> here

Posted by kchrist499   ( 1279 ) on Apr-05-08 at 17:00:52 PDT   Listings
Scott

Yes, that's the one, only I didn't think I scanned it that big!

By the way I think I have the HTML thing right... I made it into a file, so now all I need to do is copy it. (I'll bet you guys have been doing that all along!)

Anyway, here goes: the Twin Space Stamp Ceremony.

http://www.members.aol.com/kchrist499/space1.jpg”> here

http://www.members.aol.com/kchrist499/space2.jpg”> here.

Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-05-08 at 15:10:58 PDT   Listings
that's why they call them Actor's :-}
Posted by dragonstamps   ( 502 ) on Apr-05-08 at 15:09:34 PDT   Listings
You can also watch the movie Gettysburg.

It's long and has a few flaws, but it's worth watching for the little round top scenes alone.

Then watch dumb and dumber. (J/K)
It's hard to believe the same guy could play both roles.
Posted by 220man   ( 174 ) on Apr-05-08 at 15:03:05 PDT   Listings
All: For anyone interested in Chamberlain and the critical part he played at Gettysburg, I heartily recommend Michael Shaara's "The Killer Angels." It is one of the best historical war novels that I've ever read.

Phil
Posted by thines   ( 1594 ) on Apr-05-08 at 14:44:57 PDT   Listings
Oops - He died in 1914, not 1913. And David B is right. He should have been honored long ago. It's amazing he wasn't on one of the 1995 Civil War stamps.

Terence Hines

Posted by thines   ( 1594 ) on Apr-05-08 at 14:35:48 PDT   Listings
Chamberlain was a colonel when he defended Little Round Top. But he ended the war a general. He went on the be governonr of Maine 4 times and President of Bowdoin College. He died in 1913. For those interested, there is an excellent biography of Chamberlain:

"In the Hands of Providence. Joshua L. Chamberlain and the American Civil War" by Allice Trulock, published in 1992 by the University of North Carolina Press.

Terence Hines

Posted by dbenson   ( 9032 ) on Apr-05-08 at 14:29:51 PDT   Listings
Paul,

just read the bio of General Chamberlain,

http://www.geocities.com/athens/aegean/6732/files/jlc1.html

Should have been " stamped " many years ago,

David B.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Apr-05-08 at 13:59:31 PDT   Listings
REDLION I thought you were going to say something nice about me selling GOLD at $1,000.00 a ounce before it went to $900.00 not that Im a bad spelling ,but thats OK .....at least I didn't call Colonel Chamberlain a General ......paul
Posted by sneeky37   ( 237 ) on Apr-05-08 at 13:33:03 PDT   Listings
A VERY GOOD wink DAY TO ALL!!
Posted by scottpel3   ( 900 ) on Apr-05-08 at 13:10:29 PDT   Listings
Ken C
Is this the program you were trying to post?

http://www.ceremonyprograms.com/programs/spacetwinprog002.jpg

It is an interesting program in that in comes on 3 different types of paper and several shades usually similar to peach.

Scott
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-05-08 at 12:38:59 PDT   Listings
12345

I was not on the hunt for anything postal when I left last nite.
BUT the hunt was successful met a nice young lady from UConn (go huskies)
she made me breakfast using my bacon.
Nice
Mom was right
Go have fun , get out your house, have a beer or two
R&R is a necessary evil ;-}
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1510 ) on Apr-05-08 at 12:36:48 PDT   Listings
due2cents
Glad you liked the cover. I’ve not been able to chase down much info on the cover. If someone knows about how many were flow I’d love to hear to so I can add that note to it’s page.

antonius-ra
I don’t consider myself ignored when you have no reason to be chatting. I’m glad to chat about precans that are not from Indiana, but they are my first love when it comes to collecting. IF you ever find some neat Indiana item and show it here on the board I’ll be delighted to look. Who knows, you just might find something that would teach me a thing or two.

Jim L.
member
Posted by redlion48   ( 2616 ) on Apr-05-08 at 11:41:27 PDT   Listings
As PAUL so eloquently stated on Apr-04-08 at 21:28:26 PDT
"It is the fun of the hunt.... perf.varities,and unusal plate varitions."

What are varities & varitions??

Are they just as unusal as nucular weopans??
Posted by bjornmu   ( 1017 ) on Apr-05-08 at 11:38:51 PDT   Listings
Hmm, did someone mail a letter from the toilet?
Posted by keleofa   ( 3848 ) on Apr-05-08 at 11:03:56 PDT   Listings
Matt,

I thought it might be something local other than an official town name. I guess back then people assumed letter carriers knew how to get letters to their destinations without ZIP+4!

Matt in Arizona
Posted by paperhistory   ( 1999 ) on Apr-05-08 at 11:00:01 PDT   Listings
Matt: there's a Marble Springs Road just south of Arcade if you look on google maps. I don't see a Bunker Hill, though.
Posted by 220man   ( 174 ) on Apr-05-08 at 10:43:05 PDT   Listings
Chamberlain was also a Medal of Honor recipient.
Posted by 220man   ( 174 ) on Apr-05-08 at 10:41:53 PDT   Listings
Terrence: Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain

Phil
Posted by keleofa   ( 3848 ) on Apr-05-08 at 10:38:51 PDT   Listings
Matt,

RFD Carrier cancels -- Yes, but I can't locate those 2 towns.

Matt in Arizona
Posted by keleofa   ( 3848 ) on Apr-05-08 at 10:38:06 PDT   Listings
Matt,

Forgot about Bradbury -- is Heinlein still alive?

Matt in Arizona
Posted by paperhistory   ( 1999 ) on Apr-05-08 at 10:33:26 PDT   Listings
Matt in AZ: those are almost certainly RFD carrier cancels. I like your idea for the sci-fi block of 4. It'll take 5 years though (the 10-year rule was recently changed to 5). Or maybe we hang on and do a strip of 5 once Ray Bradbury is gone. But my guess is that Vonnegut will get a stamp and the rest will get shafted.
Posted by keleofa   ( 3848 ) on Apr-05-08 at 10:16:42 PDT   Listings
Terence,

Block of 4:

Issac Asimov, Arthur C. Clarke, Robert Heinlein, Kurt Vonnegut

Matt in Arizona
Posted by keleofa   ( 3848 ) on Apr-05-08 at 10:12:46 PDT   Listings
Terence,

You really shouldn't have included yourself at the bottom of that list --- I'm sure you think you're important, but you need to be dead 10 years to be commemorated on a US stamp! :-)

I remember reading Bob Keeshan was a war hero on Iwo Jima.

My answer from that list: Issac Asimov

Matt in Arizona
Posted by thines   ( 1594 ) on Apr-05-08 at 08:51:02 PDT   Listings
Topic for discussion:

Whom do you think should have been honored on a stamp (US or other nation), but has not been, yet? I'll start off with a small list.

Isaac Asimov

Johnny Carson*

Joshua Chamberlain (Civil War general who defended Little Round Top at Gettysburg)

Bob Keeshan (Captain Kangaroo)*

H.P. Lovecraft (horror fiction writer)

B.F. Skinner

Alos Alzheimer

*Not dead long enough yet

Terence Hines
Posted by deh3   ( 2363 ) on Apr-05-08 at 08:20:16 PDT   Listings
The error (for anyone who is interested) pointed out by Taodave in Richard's wonderful page is "Portugese" for "Portuguese". Not only have I made this error, but when I was editor of BNATopics, I "corrected" all the occurrences (many dozens) of the correct spelling to this incorrect one in an article dealing with mail from Newfoundland to Portugal. [Despite that, the author won the Pratt award---including $1000---for best Newf'd article that year.] That's my mea culpa for the year.

David H
Posted by taodave   ( 140 ) on Apr-05-08 at 08:11:00 PDT   Listings
Richard,

Wonderful Macao page. But there is a common spelling error (I've committed it myself on exhibit pages, more than once)
Posted by keleofa   ( 3848 ) on Apr-05-08 at 08:11:00 PDT   Listings
New York State postal history questions...

I have come across a small correspondence, early 20th century, almost all originating in Cattaraugus County or Erie County, New York. Very nice machine cancels on some, but I have a question for the audience on two of them:

They both have proper postage applied, both have manuscript cancels, both have original correspondence enclosed.

Bunker Hill, New York - I cannot find this town listed in 'New York Postal History' by Kay & Smith, nor in Helbock's 'United States Post Offices', nor on line. The manuscript pencil cancel is 3/9 which corresponds to the docketed date on the letter.
The letter is posted to Marble Springs, NY, which doesn't seem to exist either. No backstamps.

I have other covers to Miss Kittie Higgins at Arcade, NY, with backstamps.

Arcade, NY - This Post Office exists in Wyoming County, NY but for some reason the stamp was manuscript canceled Sep 19, 1/05. Also to Kittie Higgins at Marble Springs.

I understand that sometimes an estate name is used as a town, but that seems to be more in England than in the US 20th century.

I would appreciate any thoughts and ideas.

T I A,

Matt in Arizona
Posted by spain_1850   ( 381 ) on Apr-05-08 at 07:25:27 PDT   Listings
Are the early stamps of Colombia a popular area? I have a couple scans here of some earlies, that were sent me on approval. I know NOTHING about Colombia. Are these even genuine? Reprints? Forgeries? Is there anything here of great value, beyond Scott catalog, like better cancellations, shades, varieties?

scan 1
scan 2
Posted by bjornmu   ( 1017 ) on Apr-05-08 at 07:07:24 PDT   Listings
NOIP: a lucky find? I just bought (on pure speculation) a lot of 63 "russian covers" to a business in Norway from the 90's. A number of these covers were actually from Ukraine. One cover features a Kiev provisional.

The lower values of this set are listed at just 10c in Michel despite being issued in only about half a million copies each. Presumably lots of these were hoarded by dealers and collectors. But this is the highest value, 50 rubles on 1 kopek with only 32,400 printed, in correct usage with a 20 karbovanets regular stamp on a commercial cover to Norway. A rarity?

Michel includes a warning sign FALSCH indicating that philatelic forgeries exist, could someone have been tempted to use one for postage? The postmark looks like PISOTSNALNOV.O.?????? but I can find no such city, and the sender's address appears to be something else. The year in the cancel is unclear but I think it's 93, based on the postage and the other covers in the lot.
Posted by 1covers   ( 1378 ) on Apr-05-08 at 07:00:15 PDT   Listings
My favorite Macao stamp is the one at center, bordered in red, on the page here. The Mayer collections has 3 of the 4 known.
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 87 ) on Apr-05-08 at 06:13:15 PDT   Listings
Hi board et al...:-)
Nice to see your posts conflicts and all! Sorry not been posting much lately but too much work. Currently back in Hong Kong trying to prepare a large tender so no time for stamps:-(. Sorry D2 haven't forgotten your contacts in HK but time too limited. Also minus luggage for 3 days such is the fun of travelling through T5 at Heathrow! At least they have finally come clean today it is the baggage system, owned by BAA not BA at fault it crashed again! Well at least I am stamping my carbon foot print all over the world...whoops shouldn't have mentioned Global W:-) Must look at my Macau when/if I ever get home....
cheers
Peter
Posted by thebriguy1   ( 64 ) on Apr-05-08 at 02:14:45 PDT   Listings
Its early in the morning, and I'm preparing to go fishing.

I see a couple of people have been advising me to "check my email", in which absolutely nothing is going! I have no idea why, and I've just about had it, for this is not a new annoyance. Tonight I'll be setting up a couple of new email addresses (with OTHER providers) and slog through the pain of contacting everyone who would have reason to contact me.

Arrrrrrrgh!

My apologies for those trying to reach me, I'm not intentionally hiding.
Posted by putney32   ( 1911 ) on Apr-05-08 at 01:30:42 PDT   Listings
bookmark... daylight savings ends here (in most Australian States) this weekend.
Posted by dbenson   ( 9032 ) on Apr-04-08 at 21:56:57 PDT   Listings
Richard, I know, I have always been on the lookout for the local overprints, they are always missing from collections, they were the 1st. 4a. I have ever come across (and there was two of them) and was none of the other values, not even the commoner ones,

David B.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Apr-04-08 at 21:30:32 PDT   Listings
DRAGON All the ones that I think are tough to find are the ones that I don't have ...lol..
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Apr-04-08 at 21:28:26 PDT   Listings
DUE It is the fun of the hunt and to add over time thousands and thousands of different color varities ,watermark types,perf.varities,and unusal plate varitions to a collection . Just give it something extra to view .
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Apr-04-08 at 20:58:52 PDT   Listings
NEW READERS and COLLECTORS If you need a comparsion of the Macau overprints ,here it is .Notice how the overprint lettering is not straight on the red stamp .Also all the letters of the overprint are different . MACAU
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 678 ) on Apr-04-08 at 19:58:09 PDT   Listings
Pro Been a while since that video has bee posted to the board. Seems like they should have showed at least one stamp in it?
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-04-08 at 19:49:13 PDT   Listings
The big S cataog
heck ifin he did not have one in staock he just printed em and sold em
at least that's the way I heard the story.

Face it we all enjoy a hobby/vocation/avocation started by a guy who could have out Barnumed Barnum
and a guy who boughtb the left overs triangles and built an empire.
That's what makes it so fun.
the allure, the doubt, the mystery, the discovery ,
the hope, the dreams,
BUT the "apostrophe" is what keeps me coming back.
" i've got one from spain and two from japan"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTqmob1dQYg
ifin this song was in the Karakoe machine I would be a rock star.
and it's hard to do accapella
trust me I've tried.

one from Chad and two from nepal
You know I Can't believe I'm telling everyone I know
that I like stamps.
It's ok it's alright I've got aplace for you to sleep tonight.

Off to the Hunt.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 678 ) on Apr-04-08 at 19:30:44 PDT   Listings
Hiya Jim Lawler
I don't mean to ignore you but Indiana precancels are not my bag.
I do, however, much appreciate the support you have given me and your general presence on the board.
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-04-08 at 19:28:12 PDT   Listings
less than 4.6 in last 30 days i think

I am always interested in the evolution of this venue
it is an interesting study and the proof that
the "Peter Principle" is still alive and well.

The women's NCAA final four is in my little berg this weekend , i just got a Spot report from the city"ybor"
that there seems to be an abundance of out of town ladies.

" Hi there
I'm a Philatelist
I have an unopened bottle of 1974 Crown Royal at home.
Want to see some nudes on stamps. "

MMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmm might work.

Time to find my "Lick 'em and Stick 'em " Shirt
" No not you, do not take offense I'm a Philatelist,
oh your dad likes stamps, let me show you why"

I mean really, how threatening in this scary world
far from home ,looking for fun could a young woman be
of a goth dude who does stamps like her daddy.

I'll be your daddy



JLawler
Neat item
any idea on how many were flown?



Posted by dragonstamps   ( 502 ) on Apr-04-08 at 19:27:27 PDT   Listings
Paul: You should post some of the tough to find .20s.
Somebody might have them.
Or they could be slighted by the catalog as you suggest....
I forget what stamp it was, but my 1922 Scott offered a stamp that didn't exist. No one has it.
The catalogs are often wrong.
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1510 ) on Apr-04-08 at 19:19:13 PDT   Listings
Gary (gary.nes) [& anyone else that’s interested]

I do know what it is to be ignored, and your not being online on the weekend is NOT that at all.

Here’s what I’ve found about your first pic.

These were prepared by Allan M. Grant, Rushstamps, of Southampton, Hants. His service has over 100 different stamps designs or denominations. I see a lot of covers and labels from this service.

Clive Smith’s catalogue says these were issued in January or February. It on the 1969 Stroma Fish issue, overprinted “EMERGENCY STRIKE POST / INTERNATIONAL MAIL” and revalued except in the case of the 1/- value. The name of the island is obliterated by three horizontal lines and the old value by a sold rectangle (Where revalued). There were printed in sheets of 6 and comb perforated 10 ½. There is a mini sheet that goes with these also overprinted. In 1986 Mr. Smith estimated 2,000 copies of each were made up. I strongly suspect the numbers are underreported by Grant. Grants labels were primarily made up for collectors and/or philatelic purposes rather than for commercial mail. This specific set is identified as common, as are most of Grant’s issues. I’d expect to see the set priced in the $5.00 to $10.00 range, but not selling well at $10.00.

Grants’s also known as having the same set of Stroma labels, perfed and imperforate, overprinted in black.

The second pic:
The BEA Labels are familiar to me, but I’m not really sure where I’ve encountered them. I’d pick up the set myself, just to have them on hand while trying to find out exactly what they are. There are still many loose ends on the monumental task Clive Smith took on in the compiling of the 1971 British Mail Strike Issues. If they are in Smith’s work I’ve overlooked them. I do have what appears to be Decimal Day or First Day Cover for a BEA issue. Here’s the link to it.
BEA cover.

I’ll repost the info Sunday night or Monday, just in case itmight scroll off the page. (It’s been a while since this page scrolled that fast, but we can at least hope.)

Jim L.
member
Posted by dragonstamps   ( 502 ) on Apr-04-08 at 19:17:47 PDT   Listings
I don't sell on here that often, so I'd prefer all auctions were treated the same via search engine(s).
I don't like it at all.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 678 ) on Apr-04-08 at 19:04:52 PDT   Listings
Pro
I do like the:
"In addition, to reduce the negative impact of excessive Shipping & Handling on the buying experience, sellers with the lowest Detailed Seller Ratings for Shipping & Handling Charges will also see a decrease in the exposure that their listings receive in search results."

It always really ticks me when I see people trying to make their money off shipping and not the product.

CYE
Posted by 1covers   ( 1378 ) on Apr-04-08 at 18:37:14 PDT   Listings
David B - That Macao "Republica" overprint is the rare local variety which cats 2500 HKD in Yang (#186). Worth every penny of price it fetched if not even a bargin. That and the 8a are the keys of the issue.
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-04-08 at 18:30:50 PDT   Listings
In the next few days we will be making an update to our backend technology. After we make this update, some buyers who have used the "Customize Display" link on search results to change their default sort order may find that it's been changed back to Best Match.
To change your sort order (such as to "Time: Ending Soonest"), simply use the Sort By drop-down menu at the top of the search results, or use the "Customize Display" link to create a new permanent default.

We expect this to be a one-time update, and apologize for the inconvenience.



Since its launch, our data show that Best Match has a better buyer conversion than any of our other sort methods. As our executives announced during the eCommerce Forum in January, starting this week Best Match will be the default sort method site-wide

In addition, to reduce the negative impact of excessive Shipping & Handling on the buying experience, sellers with the lowest Detailed Seller Ratings for Shipping & Handling Charges will also see a decrease in the exposure that their listings receive in search results.

the concept of an annual price change would no longer exist at eBay and that further pricing adjustments could come at any time. He also said Tilenius promised "even bolder and faster changes at eBay, stating that eBay's goal is to deliver a more retail-like experience."


the above are for those that might have missed the notes

I always thought this was an auction venue
not a retail site
Posted by dragonstamps   ( 502 ) on Apr-04-08 at 18:24:20 PDT   Listings
Well, I can't find my Minkus book with those types of stamps.
Dang nab it. I found a $5 catalog one in my WW book. Nice.
Anyhow, thanks, I got a needed workout moving books around.
To no avail.:(
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-04-08 at 18:22:49 PDT   Listings
well I guess you all might be stuck with me afterall
The Power/allure of Granmother is Not to be denied.
I guess I am second best to a sidecar excursion to Gatorland and environs.

Mom said "Hey" to some of you and to others the universal wave. (uknw wh u r)
She did ask about the Mule man
who I have not seen here in a Long time.


DBenson
nice sale there

Roger
Thanks for the link to that Corea postal nice.

KChrist
Keep trying it will work

12345
I am always amazed by anyone who looks at stamps that close .

WRD
neat presidential sheet there.

well guess i'll stamp till the clubs get going at midnight need to find a friend /with benefits
if only for the weekend.
Crown Royal always adds to my philateic enjoyment
think i'll get another.
Posted by dragonstamps   ( 502 ) on Apr-04-08 at 18:17:52 PDT   Listings
Yeah, scott 2006 has it at $125, close enough to 2x.
Posted by dbenson   ( 9032 ) on Apr-04-08 at 18:14:19 PDT   Listings
dragon,

no. it may be 2 x Scott's but it is about 1/2 the Portuguese catalogue value, it is no wonder that Scott's have to adjust their values to the real world and not in dreamworld,

David B.
Posted by dragonstamps   ( 502 ) on Apr-04-08 at 18:09:16 PDT   Listings
It's still 2x the catalog. :)
Congrats.
Posted by dbenson   ( 9032 ) on Apr-04-08 at 18:06:41 PDT   Listings
Roger, not from Florida, they came from a collection that was formed before he was born,

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 9032 ) on Apr-04-08 at 18:03:46 PDT   Listings
dragon,

that was for the local overprint, not the Lisbon printing which is very common,

It is interesting as the buyer had two extra bids up his sleeve for the second one,

David B.
Posted by malolo   ( 893 ) on Apr-04-08 at 18:03:35 PDT   Listings
David -
Not from Florida, right? The guy just didn't wait to see what was valuable with rubber stamps. )'>)

Roger
Posted by dragonstamps   ( 502 ) on Apr-04-08 at 18:01:38 PDT   Listings
DavidB: Wow, that got my attention.
(Looking for my Port. colonies book now)
Posted by dbenson   ( 9032 ) on Apr-04-08 at 17:45:10 PDT   Listings
Sometimes realisations can be amazing,

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=360037055147&ssPageName=STRK:MESO:IT&ih=023

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=150230150694&ssPageName=STRK:MESO:IT&ih=005

I had two of them, wish I had more as I have had enquiries if I have any more for sale.

David B.
Posted by kchrist499   ( 1275 ) on Apr-04-08 at 16:45:59 PDT   Listings
"Posting ain't my business
posting is my curse

Why can't all them jiggles
Line up from the first?

I have the "how to" post
In the HTML introduction.

But damned if I can follow
The simple instructions!

Suffice it to say
I'm a long way away
from adding to knowledge
and I even went to college.
Posted by kchrist499   ( 1275 ) on Apr-04-08 at 16:39:01 PDT   Listings
Boy did I screw that up!

Space program #1 front inside
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Apr-04-08 at 16:38:06 PDT   Listings
KCHRIST NICE STAMP,you have
Posted by kchrist499   ( 1275 ) on Apr-04-08 at 16:35:20 PDT   Listings
I have one program from the Twin Space Commemorative Ceremony
here>/a> to contribute.

Reading about the popularity of mint Columbians is good news for me. I have most of them, including a rare MNH $5 here.

No way I'm going to get $100,000 for mine!

Ken C.

Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Apr-04-08 at 16:30:07 PDT   Listings
NEW COLLECTORS and READERS Just a interesting note about the subject of hard to get stamps. Most people think only the higher price stamps are hard/rare to find. But actually there are many stamps that are extremely hard to find at a reasonable price .What the catalog says on some is a lot of times out dated information or even based on a old price list from a dealers who may or may not have the stamp listed in his price list .

My experience is that there are stamps listed in the catalog for the minnium of .20 cents and there nowhere to be found .

It would be interesting to have a list created of all the want list to see what truely is diffucult to find,because in 50 years of collecting and spenting huge amounts there are still the elusive 5%,which can't be found or never show up .

Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Apr-04-08 at 15:57:13 PDT   Listings
ALEX Thanks for that heads up on that Algeria stamp ,its one that im missing .It must be classified as one of those cheap stamps that very few have .

Here is something interesting its the joint between the "AP " in the second line ......UKRAINE JOINT LETTERING

Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Apr-04-08 at 15:36:31 PDT   Listings
OLD REGULARS and SPECIALIST Last week there was a discussion about Polish stamps used in Danzig .The subject was were they correct and they weren't because they had regular Polish cancels on them .But nobody shown a correct cancel.

I was in town today and picked up my Polish collection and here is a scan of the correct cancellations .... POLISH OFFICES IN DANZIG.....paul

Posted by malolo   ( 893 ) on Apr-04-08 at 15:25:30 PDT   Listings
Bjorn -
Sort of a "textboob" example of why one should NOT use high initial eBay Proxy bids. They don't scare away anyone, for the reason the bid is unknown, a point made perfectly clear by eBay. And if we could determine the extremely high initial bid, what's to stop someone from continually running up to the high bid and stopping?

SNIPE, SNIPE, SNIPE. Where's my CAPS LOCK when I need it. LOL

Roger
Swiss Razor Cancels
Posted by dbenson   ( 9032 ) on Apr-04-08 at 14:47:22 PDT   Listings
stamps, they have nothing to do with each other,

IPO was used by Chinese Post Offices to tie Hong Kong stamps to the cover at the receiving Chinese Post Office before they were forwarded to British Post Offices in China where the Hong Kong stamps were cancelled. Before the IPO marks were introduced there was a lot of theft of Hong Kong stamps from the covers.

IJPO was the acronymm for Imperial Japanese Post Offices which had various offices in China & Korea,

David B.
Posted by dogbert_consulting   ( 5 ) on Apr-04-08 at 14:44:19 PDT   Listings
wrd3 you hit the nail on the head on both points.

Mr Wild you have so much to share but will not refrain from comment and must have the last word which you will probably do to us too. Do not bother with me. I will be in the balcony and do know how to let comments go by.
Posted by bjornmu   ( 1017 ) on Apr-04-08 at 14:30:29 PDT   Listings
Roger, ouch! The current high bidder p***s may learn a lesson about the advantage of sniping; not sniping may have cost him over $2,000...
Posted by stamps-4-ever   ( 150 ) on Apr-04-08 at 14:30:23 PDT   Listings
Just a short note to follow the one I wrote on the IJPO and IPO.

I have the Webb book on Hong Kong Treaty Ports, it mentions the IPO but nothing on the IJPO which makes me wonder if they are the same.
Posted by stamps-4-ever   ( 150 ) on Apr-04-08 at 14:26:30 PDT   Listings
With the stamps of China and Japan, what is the difference in cancellations of the IJPO and IPO.
Posted by malolo   ( 893 ) on Apr-04-08 at 11:49:58 PDT   Listings
Glad this card doesn't have a razor cancel:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Korea-PPC-1900-Tae-Geuk-10p-Seoul-TO-Swiss_W0QQitemZ350042451849
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-04-08 at 11:39:28 PDT   Listings
again part slips into the ether


Uall
have a nice weekend , pumpkin gets spring break next week
and we are heading out

and remember in these times of economic uncertain
You can't Drive your house But You Can live in a car.

We be taking our cameras so ifin we catch,kill,find,eat,see,meet,smell,hear,step on or in or outof, anything interesting ; we might have pics when we return next week sometime.

Till Then we have just used three cans of


and for those that like extra meanings in most things
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDHVJuRBdfc&feature=related

impotant question here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLCooK0kIFk&feature=related
Posted by gary.nes   ( 15514 ) on Apr-04-08 at 11:29:00 PDT   Listings
Matt in AZ - EP came, many thanks. Machines went out a couple of days ago, forgot to email you.

Gary

Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-04-08 at 11:17:55 PDT   Listings
WRD
i 2nd

in the real scheme of things we are less than a mote's in gods eye

interesting comparison here about the real scope of life in general.

http://www.techdo.com/images/largest-know-star.htm
Posted by wrd3   ( 107 ) on Apr-04-08 at 11:10:09 PDT   Listings
jaywild I hate to say this, but .... I REALLY wish you would drop this war you have with several posters on the board. In my opinion, your posts are infinitely more disruptive to the chat board than the posts by afeht and stamps12345. They cannot post anything, even the most innocuous, stamp-related post without your knee-jerk reaction to find something to jump on. I have no data to back up this claim, but I believe you are the nexus of 70% or more of all chatroom flare-ups and ill will.

PLEASE take your own advice ... IGNORE all posts by stamps12345 and afeht. Choose to not respond to them, as you cannot seem to respond in a positive manner. If you stop responding to their posts, non-stamp related postings as well as acrimony on the board would be cut at least in half.

I prefaced the above with "I hate to say this" because your positive posts are informative, interesting and valuable to the board. But your negative is starting to outweigh your positive in my opinion.

Bill D.
Posted by jaywild   ( 1068 ) on Apr-04-08 at 11:01:02 PDT   Listings
NOIP… If I can suggest a Cream performance of my own. The sound quality is not the best—it was recorded live, but gives a solid idea of what that band was capable of.

Notice how there is no jumping around, no swooping lighting effects, no “Roman candles”, no smoke machine—just pure unadulterated music.

Jim
Posted by gary.nes   ( 15514 ) on Apr-04-08 at 10:56:38 PDT   Listings
due2 - Sweeet.. nice attitude adjuster for Friday afternoon..
Who said music is dead? They just announced Kid Rock is coming to Ft Myers.......anybody want tickets?
Last show I saw was Elton John. My wife is a big fan and it was our anniversary. Must be gettin old my ears hurt after a piano player! Think what you will, he puts on a hell of a show, and yes I would go see him again!<
Posted by jaywild   ( 1068 ) on Apr-04-08 at 10:40:16 PDT   Listings
NOIP… Well guys, you might consider my post part of the “argument”, but I am merely trying to get across a very simple point. When the guy with the crazy opinions makes a post, any post, on any topic, he will use any response to insult, denigrate, belittle, and savage some of our most cherished contributors. That’s why they no longer make appearances here. All due to this one churlish poster.

Any of you who wish to consider that I am prolonging an argument are free to do so, but I will continue to make the following suggestion—

DON’T
FEED
THE
TROLL

If you leave even the tiniest crumbs under the stove in your kitchen, you will attract cockroaches. The same principle is at work here.

I really miss the contributions of people like Rainer, Paolo and Knud-Erik. Therefore I will continue to encourage people to ignore the rude, opinionated poster who has driven them away.

Jim
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-04-08 at 10:29:47 PDT   Listings
Mondays do always come to fast
but we can always hope for
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5IdtqFf95g&feature=related
Posted by gary.nes   ( 15514 ) on Apr-04-08 at 10:25:45 PDT   Listings
Linda -- Checked the US ad covers...sorry, my "well" is dry. I do a lot of shows and will keep an eye out for you. BTW, I have started a new folder...chat ID's w/ wants..thanks to you ;-)

Jim L. -- I rarely come in the office or play with the computer over weekends....don't think I am ignoring you....Mondays always come too fast for me as it is!

Gary

Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1510 ) on Apr-04-08 at 09:54:24 PDT   Listings
Gary(gary.nes)
The set of labels you posted are Strike Mail, but I’m not at home right now. I’ll post more on them tonight.

Jim L.
Posted by wrd3   ( 107 ) on Apr-04-08 at 09:51:20 PDT   Listings
Precancels I haven't been pursuing my bureau precancel collection for the past year or so (more interested in chasing perfins), but here are the two pages I'd most like to complete in my home-made albums: George Washington and experimentals. I expect eventually I'll complete the George Washington page ..... these are the last two 804 bureaus I'm missing, and eventually I'll find these two stamps. But I doubt I'll ever complete the experimental page .... way too much money for me spend on precancels.

Bill D.
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-04-08 at 09:46:04 PDT   Listings
enter the ether
i have tried a couple of posts
look like they became toast


Back from the beach
Little one wants Feesh for dinner

JFR
I figure it has to be a ladder
if stairs we would have more is-it-ors
and I have oft wished for an Elelator
for the Olde guys
yeah I said Olde Guys
you know who you are
Posted by gary.nes   ( 15514 ) on Apr-04-08 at 08:53:33 PDT   Listings
srailkb - Aaah yes, I remember those. $25-$50? I remember giving them to kids at stamp shows years ago, no-one would buy them....only the admission tickets. Does Frank B. still collect this expo? I recall he had quite a collection years ago...

Gary

Posted by srailkb   ( 3211 ) on Apr-04-08 at 08:37:24 PDT   Listings
gary.nes, my partial roll contains >4,000 of these.
Posted by re1wind   ( 284 ) on Apr-04-08 at 08:21:22 PDT   Listings
POSTALHYSTERIA - Good to hear you just got the rain.

WRD3 - Nice strikes on those precancels. Have always admired those "spider cancels" even though they look more like a brittle star fish.
Posted by gary.nes   ( 15514 ) on Apr-04-08 at 07:35:46 PDT   Listings
jfr

Watch the ladder is for the balconeers who come down, don't want anybody to fall! Also for any of you who are having ominous thoughts....
Warning

Posted by gary.nes   ( 15514 ) on Apr-04-08 at 07:05:01 PDT   Listings
Jeff - Glad you guys squeaked through. At least with hurricanes we get some much needed advance warning down here. Did you see my link at 6:55AM yesterday?
Posted by gary.nes   ( 15514 ) on Apr-04-08 at 06:51:40 PDT   Listings
Good Day

Linda

I noticed you are into ink wells, etc. I have a box of US ad covers, I'll take a peek today and let you know. Probably not anything in non-US.

Scott

Thanks for the pic, I see so much stuff and would probably never open a folder like that, now I will!!

srailkb - Thanks for the 1893 info. I was in total shock at some of the prices. Can't recall a wheel ticket I ever owned, but at $2,000 not suprising! WOW. re:Roll - Are they engraved like the admission tickets. Can't seem to pull up a mental image. Sounds like a heck of an item.

Jim L.
British Mail Strike. I would guess these are from there. A customer picked them out a couple of days ago from a book on the shelf and I can't find any reference in my library, pretty modern for me though. Any idea of value?
Strike
Or British European Airways labels/stamps?
BEA

Sorry, no precancels :-((

Gary

Posted by jfr   ( 749 ) on Apr-04-08 at 06:12:31 PDT   Listings
DUE2CENTS,


Thanks for the response and info. Looks like nothing special.


By the way, what does "watch the ladder" mean?


Thanks again,


JFR

Posted by postalhysteria   ( 4104 ) on Apr-04-08 at 05:45:15 PDT   Listings

Big storm swung south of us, ended up with much needed rain overnight.

That message from the Bowie C of C had me really worried. Jeff
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-04-08 at 05:21:48 PDT   Listings
22028

Thanks for the Info, I could not access your pages yesterday, But this morning they are up .

White was a builder of Motor Coaches kinda like what they were using.

Columbian Expo
I noticed in the Fall that all the Columbian Expo material I was used to seeing, most had been in the same shops for years, was al gone.
One of my Regular dealers mentioned that at least three different people had come into his shop actively seeking anything related/part of/associated with.
Items I had seen for years in the same shops over and over is all Gone.
Wonder what's up.
Posted by oggilby   ( 1262 ) on Apr-04-08 at 05:13:42 PDT   Listings
Greetings from foggy, rainy, cold central MD!

thebriguy--CYE, please!

Listening to Lonestar 92.5 on the web (TX)! Great mix of C/W, Blues, Allman Bros, Clapton, Zep, etc. DC/MD radio stinks!

Dave, Dave, Dave? Dave's not here man! Dave, Dave, Dave? I told you man Dave's not here!
Posted by 22028   ( 1692 ) on Apr-04-08 at 04:46:56 PDT   Listings
due2cetns,
the Baghdad Overland Mail used cachets, labels, imprinted envelopes and even manuscript markings on letters to be transported by them. Im my me-page archive you find several Overland Mail covers with labels, imprinted envelopes etc...
http://fuchs-online.com/my_ebay/index.htm

I do not know the White Motor Company so i can not say if they did business with them.
Posted by srailkb   ( 3211 ) on Apr-04-08 at 04:19:05 PDT   Listings
gary.nes, 1893 Columbian Exposition tickets are a very hot area right now. Not only are the engraved admission tickets seeing significant price increases (Handel tickets often sell for >$100,) but the midway tickets have also gone parabolic ($2,000 for a ferris wheel ride ticket, $1,700 for a soda ticket, and many others which sell for $100-$500+.) There are fewer mint Handel tickets than mint $5 Columbians, so maybe the tickets are just playing "catch up" :-) I have a nearly complete roll of Columbian Exposition "return passes" in my collection (about 4,000 tickets) which is the largest known "multiple" of any Columbian Exposition ticket. Maybe now's the time to sell, as I often see individual return passes selling for $25-$50...
Posted by afeht   ( 1305 ) on Apr-04-08 at 03:58:34 PDT   Listings
Rainer,


I agree that polls are extremely unreliable. However, they convey some information. This particular poll, by a German magazine, shows that there is a very significant amount of Germans who still hold such views, even if 20% number is exaggerated by the conditions of the poll.

As to my "sick opinion" (as you ungraciously expressed it), I emphatically did not express an opinion. I said: If this fact hurts your sensibilities, then you have a problem with the truth. If it doesn't hurt your sensibilities, then you are all right, and you don't have a problem.

Wird alles jetzt verstanden?
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-04-08 at 03:38:16 PDT   Listings
Coke-cola

So some of you are not confused.And to head off emails.
Dave's not home.
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-04-08 at 03:36:25 PDT   Listings
22028
Did the Baghdad Overland mail, always use a Cachet type of marking
and would you know if they ever did business with the White Motor Company,.

Hey WRD
Nice Precanels to mollify the guys I was gonna post a few But those should satisfy most of their cravings,if not create more.VERY Nice.
too bad theyare not on something ;-{

STORMs
Maybe Hysteria took his own advice and "Moved to Cover"

Brigguy
I'll Bring the Coke
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1510 ) on Apr-04-08 at 03:31:15 PDT   Listings
Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all
thebriguy1
No offense towards you taken by me. Just venting a bit of frustration about how uneven some infrastructures are in some areas. I know when I lived in a medium sized city I was pretty much unaware of how much better the telephone infrastructure was than compared to areas that are not very far off. Back then, with fiber optic lines I got used to downloading between 10 and 25K per second. I moved about three years ago and I’ve still not completely adjusted to the slow download speeds. With having just replaced my home computer, the merchant assuring me that I’d have faster download speeds, I’m now about 20% faster than my old computer and getting between 3 and 3.5K as the average download speed. I’ve emailed a lot of sites and ezines to let them know they are practically unusable for me, just far to many far to large graphics used constantly. I’m sure glad not every site or ezine is that way.

Jim L.
member
Posted by 22028   ( 1692 ) on Apr-04-08 at 02:52:16 PDT   Listings
Afeht, such anonymous polls I do not even bother. In fact, I doubt that such the poll you had mentioned ever took place, and even if, it always depends where such a poll took place, whom you had asked. Eventually, in USA there are more Nazis then in Germany. Do not trust any static / poll you have not manipulated by your self.
Furthermore, I do not know from where you get your sick opinion that I have a problem with the truth?
Posted by afeht   ( 1305 ) on Apr-03-08 at 23:32:50 PDT   Listings
Good picture, Roger!
One of your Scandinavian friends, I presume?
Posted by malolo   ( 893 ) on Apr-03-08 at 23:03:30 PDT   Listings
I sell poke plate lunch. Mo betta! Broke da mouf.
Posted by thebriguy1   ( 64 ) on Apr-03-08 at 22:55:50 PDT   Listings
This is getting comical.
I still say we issue the two of them Taser guns.
Send them out in the street for our own amusement.

I call dibs on the popcorn concession!
Posted by spain_1850   ( 381 ) on Apr-03-08 at 22:47:38 PDT   Listings
Ugh!
Posted by afeht   ( 1305 ) on Apr-03-08 at 22:47:02 PDT   Listings
DON’T
FEED
JAYWILD
Posted by jaywild   ( 1068 ) on Apr-03-08 at 22:13:34 PDT   Listings
DON’T
FEED
THE
TROLL
Posted by afeht   ( 1305 ) on Apr-03-08 at 21:55:05 PDT   Listings
Re: Truth vs. wishful thinking

Just to correct infla-alex's prejudiced perception:

Couple of weeks ago, answering to sayasan's positive remark about Ukrainian pogrom-maker Nestor Makhno, I mentioned that many Western Ukrainians are rabidly anti-semitic. I added that, at least, unlike Germans, they are open about it.

I neither implied that all Germans are "anti-semitic Nazis," nor do I think so.

Recent anonymous polls have shown that approximately 20% of Germans (1 out of 5) still approve of National Socialist policies, though they would never, under any circumstances, sign under such statement if their identity would be known.

If this inconvenient fact hurts Rainer's sensibilities, his problem lies with the truth, not with my opinion of Germans, which in some individual cases is very high.

Sorry to bring this up again, but I will not allow any lies, however timid, being spread about what I've said.
Posted by jaywild   ( 1068 ) on Apr-03-08 at 21:32:58 PDT   Listings
Bill D… Those are pretty nice. I’ve never seen the Montclair N.J or the Amherst or Northampton MA. The Lansing Michigan is on a very late stamp, from 1932. I don’t know when that cancel dates from though—is that possibly a favor cancel?

Jim
Posted by jaywild   ( 1068 ) on Apr-03-08 at 21:27:17 PDT   Listings
re1wind… I checked the weather maps after Jeff’s post and the storms seem to have been blowing out of his area. I’m sure he will check in tomorrow.

Jim
Posted by thebriguy1   ( 64 ) on Apr-03-08 at 20:50:39 PDT   Listings
My deep apology to Mr. Lawler, my crack about dial up was terribly insensitive. Especially considering until less then a year ago, I was stuck in a dial up only world myself. I understand the pain, and will try harder to be less of snooty unlimited broadband elitist in the future.

Please resume the showing of Irish over prints.
Posted by afeht   ( 1305 ) on Apr-03-08 at 20:43:14 PDT   Listings
Re: Irish material

There was a good article on varieties of Irish overprints on Sea Horses in one of the last issues of Linn's.
Posted by wrd3   ( 107 ) on Apr-03-08 at 20:11:37 PDT   Listings
precancels I posted this image several years ago, but since the subject if precancels came up .... I'm a US Bureau precancel collector, but I also dabble in local precancels where I think the design is interesting. Here is a group of precancels I picked up at one precancel show (I think it was the big show in the summer, probably in 2006), and here is a couple of the Fort Wayne tombstone.

I picked up these patterns because I thought they were neat looking, and all were pretty good strikes.

Bill D.
Posted by re1wind   ( 284 ) on Apr-03-08 at 19:41:37 PDT   Listings
Evening all - Have noticed that after Postalhysteria's weather forecast we haven't seen any new messages from him. Hope everything is fine with him and his family and his collection isn't in the next county.

Not really new to the board, have been a lurker since I became of member of eBay. I have been to other boards on the bay and I must say, this one stays on task more than any other I've seen. I'm with Jim_Lawler, just need more precancels post :-)....and as I've heard before....Go to Precancels! - The junk (mail) bonds of Philatily
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1510 ) on Apr-03-08 at 19:19:15 PDT   Listings
“makes life difficult for those of us out in the African bush struggling with dial up issues.” And for some of us in Rural USA. :8^ (

There are far to few postings about Indiana Precancels!

And Irish material of any kind,

And the 1971 British Mail Strike,

:8^ )

Jim L.
member
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-03-08 at 18:09:35 PDT   Listings
Nice Scott thanks for sharing


Here is an interesting (to me) little recipet
dated Oct 9 1856 I know the corner is missing off the
GB Revenue stamp, But thats ok with me
An Interesting ship the Gertrude carried folks all
over including to OZ was a part of the Leith,Hull and Hamburg Line later lost off Norway.(1865)
1856
Posted by scottpel3   ( 900 ) on Apr-03-08 at 17:06:32 PDT   Listings
NOIP
The previously illustrated United Way program has an interesting story. It was originally printed with the orange inside as illustrated. The postal officials decided it was ugly and decided to print it with a white interior. That is the way it was distributed at the ceremony. Some collectors at the time requested a copy of the program from the postmaster of Washington DC. He sent them the program from the wrong box. I was told that less than 12 were sent out and all the rest were destroyed.
Scott
Posted by scottpel3   ( 900 ) on Apr-03-08 at 17:02:35 PDT   Listings
Gary
Here is the cover you requested:
http://www.ceremonyprograms.com/programs/651cover001.jpg

Most of the programs from the 1930's are event programs (programs for the venue where the stamp was released).

An exception is the program for (i am going by memory here and could be wrong) the constitution ratification issue of 1938. That was a combination Ceremony and event program. The earliest strictly first day ceremony program is for the Samuel Clemens Famous American issue. There are 2 known, 1 with stamp and cancel.

There were rumors that a program existed for the 11c Rutherford Hayes 1922 issue. However when I finally saw the program it was an event program dedicating the Library annex of the Hayes Memorial, the soldier's memorial parkway and several other roads. The stamp was not mentioned.

Scott
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-03-08 at 15:44:00 PDT   Listings
jfr

16T57

pane of 6 4.25
single .65

booklet not shown listed
perf12

watch the ladder
Posted by jfr   ( 749 ) on Apr-03-08 at 15:34:31 PDT   Listings
Hello All,



Down from the balcony with a question. Can someone tell me if this U.S. Telegraph Booklet is listed in Scott. If so, what is the Scott number and value? Here is the inside. There appear to have been 6 or so panes of 6 telegraph stamps originally. There is a single, a pair and one full pane of 6 with some glassine interleaving left.


Thanks in advance for your help


JFR
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 4104 ) on Apr-03-08 at 15:30:59 PDT   Listings

and this:

Storms
Jeremy and (now he says about 18) other stormchasers are headed to the
Bowie
area and will arrive around noon. They are going to use Bowie as their
staging area and stay in the area until danger is over. They are most
all
trained in emergency response and certified by NOAA and NSW for
aftermath
response. The hottest spot for tornadic activity according to these
spotters
will be from just west and south of Wichita Falls from 3 until 5 p.m.
and
moving into the Bowie area between 4 p.m. and 8 p.m. One discussion
forecasts 36 possible tornadoes in a triangular area with Bowie almost
dead
center. A dryline is beginning to form just west of the area, the cold
front
is on time and a warm from approaching from the south as well so the
scenario is set. Jeremy said the timing is important, if storms begin
developing now they may not have enough daytime heating for tornadoes,
but
after 4 p.m. would increase the chances. I will have information more
than
likely before warnings are issued and will begin calling everyone if a
tornado threatens this area. Oh, Jeremy said there is a 10% "hatch"
probability for tornadoes to develop here, that sounds low, but he said
that
2% is considered high and 15% is about as high as they will go.
National Weather Service
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 4104 ) on Apr-03-08 at 15:29:49 PDT   Listings

Looks like my weather is going to get interesting:

A Tornado Watch is in effect northwest of an Gorman...Weatherford... Gainesville line until 900 PM CDT. Severe storms are now moving into Montague County. This storm has produced hail of baseball size or larger. More severe thunderstorms are expected to develop beginning in the northwest counties as the afternoon progresses. Elsewhere across North Texas...scattered showers continue to slide across North Texas south and east of the severe weather producing storms. A few of these storms may develop into thunderstorms as well. Everyone...especially those with outdoor activities...are advised to monitor the weather because conditions can change rapidly.
Posted by balkania05   ( 763 ) on Apr-03-08 at 15:27:18 PDT   Listings
Alex,
Watch your pockets when you go in Bucharest !
Posted by iomoon   ( 1064 ) on Apr-03-08 at 15:21:01 PDT   Listings
There are not enough postings about thematics and PVI's.

:-)
Posted by dbenson   ( 9032 ) on Apr-03-08 at 15:13:44 PDT   Listings
Linda,

last week there was a complaint about too many non US postings, then a posting about too many US postings, wonder what the next one will be,

David B.
Posted by alexiosp   ( 264 ) on Apr-03-08 at 14:53:52 PDT   Listings
David B

thanks for your thoughts! I will give your regards to Tsironis if I meet him in Athens.
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 602 ) on Apr-03-08 at 14:48:52 PDT   Listings
less overseas chatters ..?? says 123456789etc!!!
daivd, alec, milenko, alexios, knud, moi..


mmmm. interesting!

Gary Love your NSW cover, now,... do you have any similar advertising INK companies? Australian or ANY country, any period.??
like this Paul's Inks, NY and NJ 1900 pref. with stamps Not Damaged, but stamps are not what I'm interested in for this collection.
Linda
Posted by dbenson   ( 9032 ) on Apr-03-08 at 14:36:18 PDT   Listings
Alex,

don't worry about only having 5 frames, it can be a blessing as you made 87 in St.Petersburg with 5 and increasing it to 8 may actually decrease the points unless material of the same calibre is included. There are many collections which get the 90 plus with 5 frames.

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 9032 ) on Apr-03-08 at 14:32:49 PDT   Listings
Alex,

British Levant Postal History is most probably going to be judged by British Judges and they know about the Crimean War cancels and the Orient Express labels. By excluding them, even though you have your reasons may lose you some points especially under " importance ". (p.s., this is my opinion only and I do not know what they will actually do).

Please give regards from myself & my wife to Mr. & Mrs. Tsironas if you meet them soon,

David B.
Posted by alexiosp   ( 264 ) on Apr-03-08 at 14:20:34 PDT   Listings
David B

St Petersburg was my first entry in an international exhibition and as such was 5 frames. Unfortunately, by the time my application was accepted in EFIRO, the st petersburg result was not known, so I have to compete again with a 5-frame axhibit instaed of 8. You are a judge, you appreciate the difference!

I do not include military post offices, just the civilian ones. That's why I start from 1857.

alec: you are always willing to help, I appreciate your effort, you may show the cover anywhere you like. Thanks!
Posted by dbenson   ( 9032 ) on Apr-03-08 at 14:01:05 PDT   Listings
Alex, there is a lot of material like that which orginally was philatelically inspired but over the years have overcome their upringing.


I noticed that your start date is 1857, As GB opened a Post Office in Constantinople in 1854 for the use of the military during the Crimean War why do you start in 1857,

David B.
Posted by infla-alec   ( 593 ) on Apr-03-08 at 12:55:58 PDT   Listings
Alexiosp Zeppelin experts do exist in Germany though I'm not sure exactly who would be qualified to expertise a Greek cover. Whether that particular one is rare or not I don't know but can ask if you wish in a couple of German speaking forums. The best guy i know for Airmails especially Zeppelin mail does not speak any English and if anyone can tell you anything he is the one.

Knud Some time ago I mentioned my having a Registered GB wrapper. Finally found it here Feel free to comment please.
Posted by dbenson   ( 9032 ) on Apr-03-08 at 12:55:41 PDT   Listings
Alexios,

found this on Google,

Παπαδόπουλος Αλέξιος (Papadopoulos Alexios - FIP no. 6651)

"British post offices in Levant (1857-1923)" [PH]

FIP: St. Petersburg 2007 (87/LV)

Εθνική: Φιλοτέλεια 2005 (90/G)

Διεθνής: Balkanfila 2007 (90/G)


congrats on the Large Vermeil at St. Petersburg,

David B.
Posted by alexiosp   ( 264 ) on Apr-03-08 at 12:43:23 PDT   Listings
David B,

Thanks for your good wishes. I do not have orient express labels in my exhibit as these are all philatelically produced by Antoine Doursoun, a local Constantinople dealer and as such they are of little postal history value (I know, they still fetch high prices in auctions, as they find purchasers among the naive or uninformed philatelsts.
Posted by xzephyr   ( 999 ) on Apr-03-08 at 12:13:47 PDT   Listings
NOIP

I just wanted to share my latest acquisition – which I have been looking for for about 5 years. I have had to be satisfied with a wavy line cancellation and won the lot, # 140216330268 for $36.60. including S & H. I only wanted one stamp with a cv of about $5, but I should be able to recoup most of the rest by reselling
the other Japanese Airs (hopefully)– things seem to have changed a lot between eBay and my image host Auctionpix since I last put a lot up!

Colin the happy.
Posted by dbenson   ( 9032 ) on Apr-03-08 at 12:12:41 PDT   Listings
alexiosp,

good luck in Bucharest, British Levant is a difficult area. Do you have any of the Orient Express labels as they are a great plus in obtaining a higher medal,

David B.
Posted by malolo   ( 893 ) on Apr-03-08 at 11:59:56 PDT   Listings
Knud-Erik -
Also, congratulations from Hawaii. Prague is a very appropriate location to show your exhibit. Good luck.

Roger
Swiss Razor Cancels
Posted by alexiosp   ( 264 ) on Apr-03-08 at 10:32:56 PDT   Listings
KNUD-ERIC

It's great that you are accepted in Prag! I have not applied for Prag as I had been already accepted for EFIRO 2008 (Bucharest)where I will be shownig my British Levant exhibit. In fact I am getting a bit lazy but must start working for it as it is only 3 months away!

The greek airmail rates are complex for the infla period as there is not a complete listing of these - except for the very expensive Tiberius volumes. When I go to Athens to visit some friends in the Hellenic Philotelic Society, I will make arrangments -if permissable- to copy the airmail sections from the relevant volume.

Could you email me a couple of email addresses of German Zeppelin expertizers (if you know any)?

Alexios
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-03-08 at 10:32:55 PDT   Listings
Scottpel

I did say like kinda ,
i have some others but where o where
i have aneat one for Duck stamp signed by all the major attendees
right below their photos.
One Day I'll see it again.
Arrggghh
Just found 6000 Doanes
and Those always grab my interest.
off to see ifin any LKU EKU
those have their own Box and the New Unknowns their special place too.

Scott The yellow box stuff was having problems
and of course with the Change of Command etc.
Posted by gary.nes   ( 15514 ) on Apr-03-08 at 10:28:22 PDT   Listings
Scott

I screwed up when I said program, should of caught that. I recall (dimly) things from the late '30s that I would guess are actually presentation folders. Never anything near as early as you have with the 651. Great item. Is there anything on the front of the folder? If so, please post a scan. I specialized in FDCs many moons ago and can not recall anything like that.

Posted by scottpel3   ( 900 ) on Apr-03-08 at 10:12:20 PDT   Listings
BTW if you can't read the autograph on the olympics program it is Jessie Owens.

Thank you due2cents and Gary for your comments.

I applied for membership to EUSC a couple of days ago and not heard anything. Perhaps my posts have revealed too much.
;>)

Scott
Posted by scottpel3   ( 900 ) on Apr-03-08 at 10:06:48 PDT   Listings
due2cents
That is a nice show program. In order for it to be classifed as an event program it would have to be the venue where the stamp was released.

Gary:
The 651 is actually the earliest presentation album for a first day event that I am aware of. I was told that it was given to dignitaries at the event. It is not a ceremony program since that would need the listing of speakers for the occasion. I have been advised that there are only 3 or 4 known.

Here is the front of the cover for the joint issue:

http://www.ceremonyprograms.com/programs/Earlyjointissuecover.jpg

and another autographed program

http://www.ceremonyprograms.com/programs/Owens01.JPG

Finally, the earliest event program I am aware of (not rare): http://www.ceremonyprograms.com/programs/Centennial.JPG
Scott
Posted by knuden   ( 2417 ) on Apr-03-08 at 09:54:38 PDT   Listings
alexiosp - Hello Alexios. :O)
I'm sorry I haven't said hello before but I did'n realize, you were the one I had change emails with. (I'm Knud-Erik). :O)
By the way my Greek inflation collection is at a stand still at the moment, as I'm working with my Sudetenland exhibit, which are going to the world exhibition in Prag, Czech Republic (PRAGA 2008) in September. I just got the confirmation today so I'm happy. :O) Another reason to wait with the inflation collection is I still need the Air Mail postal rates of this period, as many of my item are sent as such.
Regarding your Zeppelin cover I belive you have a very rare item here. You should contact one of the German expertizer, who have this area. :O)

K.E  I'm a catalog King, Expert and Philatelist - whoopee!!
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-03-08 at 09:19:38 PDT   Listings
Balkania

"Old 'Happy Families' (or 'Quartette' or 'Go Fish') card game. Lots of different designs were used -- authors, royals, animals, etc. "
Play and learn
learn while you play.
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-03-08 at 09:17:13 PDT   Listings
while I go look around

Registered-Tuzla-Postcard
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-03-08 at 09:15:41 PDT   Listings
Missed that one image sorry
Posted by balkania05   ( 763 ) on Apr-03-08 at 09:08:11 PDT   Listings
U can see in the pictures , some blue design
Posted by 220man   ( 174 ) on Apr-03-08 at 09:07:58 PDT   Listings
All: Booted-up this morning to find over 100 spam "Mailer-Daemon" messages in my mailbox. Wish Verizon would filter it out.

Phil
Posted by balkania05   ( 763 ) on Apr-03-08 at 09:07:20 PDT   Listings
The back is not blank
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-03-08 at 09:03:28 PDT   Listings
Balkania
are the backs Blank
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-03-08 at 09:02:01 PDT   Listings
The World's Fair Collector auction in Feb was fairly strong, if i remember correctly.
Gary

Scottpel
I have some odds and ends like that
Handy1
Posted by balkania05   ( 763 ) on Apr-03-08 at 08:59:26 PDT   Listings
Need your help. Looks like the trading cards chat room can't help me. I just got this collection from one of my friends and he doesn't know nothing about, I don't know nothing about. For me are like trading cards. Can somebody help me please. In total I have over 100 cards like the ones in pictures. Thank you very much
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/3629/61382135rz2.jpg
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/6550/43747958sp4.jpg
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/6999/87193804il2.jpg
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/6240/98705786xw8.jpg
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/2446/37356469uk8.jpg
Posted by gary.nes   ( 15514 ) on Apr-03-08 at 08:45:13 PDT   Listings
Anyone know what the heck happened to 1893 Columbian Expo ticketes? Cripes, I found a few in a lot I just bought and the prices are obscene on eBay! The Handel was always good, but $150-$200 good? Saw a Manhattan Day go for $275. Am I way,way behind the curve on these? Granted I haven't had any in a while, but $25 was strong if I recall...

Gawg

I'm considering "losing" that in the safe for a while...I always liked early Texas stampless..

Gary

Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-03-08 at 08:39:58 PDT   Listings
has anybody else noticed all those washed self adhesives being sold as unused no gum?

intreresting
Posted by 776   ( 655 ) on Apr-03-08 at 08:34:49 PDT   Listings
gary.nes - Nice Texas cover.

Gawg

Posted by thebriguy1   ( 64 ) on Apr-03-08 at 08:28:12 PDT   Listings
Guys, Guys....this isn't hard.

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We do this for.....FREE!

No approvals sent. No credit card numbers required. Let the EBay users stamp club curmudgeons postal gurus emit their vast knowledge. You show it, and we'll tell it like it is! Amaze your friends with your new philatelic knowlegde.

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Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-03-08 at 07:17:01 PDT   Listings
http://www.pac-auction.com/encatalog_3
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-03-08 at 07:13:42 PDT   Listings
Scottpel
Neat Items , I love to see what others collect.
Posted by gary.nes   ( 15514 ) on Apr-03-08 at 07:12:47 PDT   Listings
Scott

I think you can shed the armor. Those programs are much scarcer than most realize. I always wondered why they have not caught on better, possibly because of the size. The 651 is an official program? I have never seen anything that early.

Alexios Conrats, should be a few Drachmas there!

Gary

Posted by alexiosp   ( 264 ) on Apr-03-08 at 07:11:58 PDT   Listings
deu2: My information is that Airmail rates from Greece in the period 1933-36 did not vary between airmail carriers. They were dispatched via the most immediate flight. In some cases that would be via zeppelin. In any case, zeppelin carried covers should have the confirmation cachet.

I am not sure I know the czech auction site you mention.

alexios
Posted by scottpel3   ( 900 ) on Apr-03-08 at 07:01:36 PDT   Listings
Just noticed only the back of the joint issue shows. Will try to post the front at lunchtime.
Scott
Posted by scottpel3   ( 900 ) on Apr-03-08 at 06:56:15 PDT   Listings
Here are some items from my collection. I am afraid it is a little different than items usually shown. But it does include a properly cancelled $1.00 liberty;>). OK so it is not what you are looking for Jim.

http://www.ceremonyprograms.com/programs/UnitedWayInsideorange.jpg

http://www.ceremonyprograms.com/programs/Buzz01.JPG

http://www.ceremonyprograms.com/programs/$1libertyC1.JPG

http://www.ceremonyprograms.com/programs/jointissuecoverb.JPG

http://www.ceremonyprograms.com/programs/jointissueproginside.JPG

http://www.ceremonyprograms.com/programs/Clarkfolder.JPG

The united way item is a rare variety with less than 12 having been released. They were released by mistake.

I tried to include an item not completely US.

Anyway this is what I find interesting.

Donning body armour.
Scott
Posted by gary.nes   ( 15514 ) on Apr-03-08 at 06:55:52 PDT   Listings
Good Day

David - Would love to get to you, haven't made it past Hawaii yet. Loooong way from Florida.. Alas, no Thai, we had wonderful Cuban instead. Quite a drastic change, but 5 minutes frome home, not 30.

Aaaah the smell of New South Wales potatoes in the morning!
NSW
Common 2c Washington head? Not when it is a 2c AEF single, wide top is the dead give-away.
AEF
stamp
Nice strike of the Capetown fancy crown.Cape
Clarksville Texas Stampless, written by C. Demorse who was a major under Albert Sidney Johnston in 1836 and commanding officer at Poison Springs Ark in 1863, which stopped the Union advance to Texas. Texas
Any US Postal Stationary students out there? U552 with overprint on back. The envelope was flipped and upside down when applied on back. Is this recorded? I know Scott is pretty slow to list this stuff.
Front
back
Jeff - Something like this? No content...
Meter

Gary

Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-03-08 at 06:55:26 PDT   Listings
Alexiosp
That's great that the rates are what they should be.
I hope it turns into a Score.My next question is was regular airmail often sent Zepp style. looking at the Czech auction site I see a lot of zepp mail I am trying to dtermine if a lot of it was just reagular airmails.

Infla-alec- I have a few more in the time frame you were looking at and will also post the date on that Card for you.(a little later)with the others.

Jaywild
Thanks For the Baghdad Overland mail ID

NOIP and Everyone who reads this
Have a good philatelic day, would you.

Roger/razorman
now that you have started encompassing all G's cancels
you want to see some of my earlier Suisse postals.

Thanks to 12345
i heavily Redacted this post , you are all on a luvcky streak Play the Lotto.
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-03-08 at 06:00:22 PDT   Listings
Hey 12345
want to see some of the emails I get.
I was in the middle of a long post when on another window your statement popped up. and i had to respond.
Been pinkslapped lately , I have, over a postcard i shared.
BTW what you working on got any scans, wish you collected on cover.
"Go To Covers" I heard that somewhere.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Apr-03-08 at 05:39:15 PDT   Listings
TO THE REGULARS Got a mean e-mail ......all I said it changed weather its positive or negative is for each person to decide ........its just a different place to me in my opinion .....paul
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-03-08 at 05:37:47 PDT   Listings
12345
I think you have it wrong, I think most one or two time posters are just trying to get eyes on their listings.
I also think that many folks post a question about a collection they just got, hoping to get an offer in an email. They do many times by the way.
I think the recent discussions of the uses of Prexies
has been very informative. and some of the material we have seen lately and the ongoing (a couple of years now) grading ideas/thoughts are an indication , at least according to some, I think know and have enuf experience in the market and the world to give us a view on where it might be heading.
Sorry ifin you did not like my reaction to A's remarks
about the Muppets , BUT sometihings are Sacoscant .
The board has always waxed and waned in participation.
I myself try to spur/help/promote Philatelic content here, albeit with little success some times.

BUT then again I've said it before and i'll say it again.
"I Come here for the PHILATIO"
I can not help ifin like a Bar band I vamp in between.

Besides I prefer something,
anything
to YELLOW BOX
Bookmark
Bookmark
Goodday
Goodnite
bookmark
Animus
Animus
Bookmark Yellow box.
want to get more posters here, help me anyone that is new and asks a question, look at their listings ifin stamps
watch a couple of items, that keeps em coming back.
I Gaurantee.
spelling wonks i know I missed a few.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Apr-03-08 at 05:09:09 PDT   Listings
INFLA-ALEC-------THIS CHAT ROOM HAS CHANGED Over the past few months it has become a different place .

The chat room now has five dominate chaters,who talk mostly to each other.

There is less discussions on philately

There is little infomation on ones own collection .

There is less and less vists by the old time regulars .

There is less overseas chaters.except one .

The underlining agreement not to talk to certain people has also hurt this board .

This board has become less a place of philatelic worldwide discussions and more of a U.S. board

There is less retension of new posters more and more we see the one timer come and go .

Nothing here for most of us.....no reason to be around as often .

Posted by infla-alec   ( 593 ) on Apr-03-08 at 04:40:19 PDT   Listings
Due2 Thanks for showing the infla card. Hard to read the date but that type of cancel, oval shaped is a railway type if you didn't already know. Usualy with the word Bahnpost somewhere in the cancel. Though sometimes with the word "Shf Bahnpost or Schaffner Bahnpost," it is either of the later two types that are quite scarce.

Haven't seen much of Rainer here lately and I can't say I blame him after someone here a couple of weeks ago wrote and accused all Germans of being anti-semitic nazi's. But if you do have something interesting to show Rainer write to him via ebay I'm sure he will respond and help if he can.
Posted by alexiosp   ( 264 ) on Apr-03-08 at 03:51:14 PDT   Listings
** ZEPPELIN COVER **

Gary, due2, knud: Two knowledgable friends specializing in greek airmails told me that the Zeppelin franking is correct:

8D for basic surface mail up to 20gr
additional 18D (per 10gr)for airmail to USA

The 18D per 10gr airmail rate to USA was applicable throuought the period 2.5.33 - 30.10.36.

alexios
Posted by afeht   ( 1305 ) on Apr-02-08 at 20:31:15 PDT   Listings
jaywild,

Nobody is feeding you, if that's what you are worried about.

Writing is not for you, find another hobby.
Party dress sucks.
Posted by jaywild   ( 1066 ) on Apr-02-08 at 19:58:41 PDT   Listings
due2 The guy you want is Rainer, eBay ID 22028.

Jim
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1509 ) on Apr-02-08 at 19:37:38 PDT   Listings
member
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-02-08 at 18:46:14 PDT   Listings
Digging thru material been parked for a couple of years is fun
Have no clue where i got this
NewFoundland
bet I bought it cause of the Date.
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-02-08 at 18:42:14 PDT   Listings
HELP anyone

The Baghdad Overland Mail by Car guy
anyone know his ID need to see if his Overland mail stuff is on ME page.
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-02-08 at 18:24:22 PDT   Listings
JEFF S

Here's better I think
Letter-inside
Posted by jaywild   ( 1066 ) on Apr-02-08 at 18:16:38 PDT   Listings
NOIP Dont feed the troll, folks. If it is asking what seems to be a legitimate question, behind the scenes it is still working its troll agenda

We really dont need another one of those go arounds, do we? Im sure every one of you can remember a childish insult directed at you not so long ago. So please

DONT
FEED
THE
TROLL

Jim
Posted by sac47   ( 272 ) on Apr-02-08 at 18:07:58 PDT   Listings
:^)
Posted by dbenson   ( 9019 ) on Apr-02-08 at 18:04:28 PDT   Listings
Due,

not really, just a very greedy seller,

David B.
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-02-08 at 17:33:31 PDT   Listings
DBenson
46 pounds must be one BIG Book
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-02-08 at 17:17:25 PDT   Listings
INFLA-ALEC

did you catch this one

Infla
Posted by dbenson   ( 9019 ) on Apr-02-08 at 17:15:34 PDT   Listings
Alex, that's exactly what the Europeans ( and the Australians) say about shipping charges from the US. In my opinion $2-3 should be ample but as you know there are greedy sellers out there.

Yesterday I looked at a book I was after from England, the seller wanted 46 Pounds postage which was ludicrous.

David B.
Posted by afeht   ( 1305 ) on Apr-02-08 at 16:58:11 PDT   Listings
David,

There's a lode of interesting material on Delcampe but shipping charges to the US seem to be excessive in most cases, unless one gets many stamps from the same party.

Re: Muppet warriors

I am not getting into an argument on Sesame Street level, nope. Music died in 1849, with Frederic Chopin.
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Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-02-08 at 16:55:08 PDT   Listings
Brigguy
Bill Monroe was 3rd generation
i gots my GreatGranny's edison cylinder records
Jerry Garcia. well let the smoke clear and we will talk. man.
dave's not home.
Posted by thebriguy1   ( 64 ) on Apr-02-08 at 16:48:27 PDT   Listings
You people are all mistaken.
Music died with Bill Monroe.
Performance art with Jerry Garcia.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1064 ) on Apr-02-08 at 16:29:13 PDT   Listings
Pro

High five!!!


I shouldn't have said that
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-02-08 at 16:20:51 PDT   Listings
Big a

Like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16XQTpm_OIk
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-02-08 at 16:17:56 PDT   Listings
DBenson
My stamp album, far from complete is the one I inherited when granpa George died
he long had an eye for centering and liked MNH, as a photo
interpreter,photographer, ngineer, bombigator,
and more for the USAAF and beyond he was back then a detail man.
and today i guess would be labelled anal-retentive.
he even broke out the micrometer for his centering views, .he also built my mom RR an almost complete Used US album. with the same parameters.
Wil see mom this weekend and get my book out of her safe. will share a couple of scans.


"Second on our list of the spoilers of fun are the philatelic politicians.............

ifin anyone wnats to read about those try the Mercury stamp journal, #42
Posted by dbenson   ( 9019 ) on Apr-02-08 at 16:14:39 PDT   Listings
IO,

we don't call them Shrimps, they are called Prawns on the Barbie.

The other dishes are not main meals and we don't eat Platypus and usually Crocodile & Kangaroo are for tourists.

The main meats are Beef, Chicken & Lamb in that order,

Yes, Seahorses should be graded but unless the grading fees are less than $1 then most would not be worth grading. There should be a note in the catalogues " All Parcel & Registration cancels are worth 5% of catalogue value)

David B.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1064 ) on Apr-02-08 at 16:13:40 PDT   Listings
I also seem to remember Arthur Fiedler appearing on Sesame Street along with the SS characters playing roles from Prokofievs "Peter and the Wolf".
Posted by malolo   ( 893 ) on Apr-02-08 at 16:12:03 PDT   Listings
Bottom fishing this week. St Moritz-Dorf was one of four post offices to receive a Guller test canceler made to determine if DeCoppets device could be mass produced. Early uses seem to be very difficult to find, so this will most definately go at the bottom of this page. Its amazing what one can find and put to good use bottom feeding on eBay.

Roger
Swiss Razor Cancels

PS: An unknown violinist and the Muppets - http://www.nme.com/video/id/16XQTpm_OIk/search/sesame
An unknown cellist and the Muppets - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHiSqTbNEoM&feature=related
Posted by dbenson   ( 9019 ) on Apr-02-08 at 16:07:26 PDT   Listings
Alex,

no problem,

I have no idea what the Algerian item as I do not use Scott's (except for US Specialised).

Delcampe can be overwhelming, especially for Western Europe and for French Colonial & Ex Colonial material and because of the low listing fees has been flooded by the French dealers but amongst the quantity are some very fine material. A friend of mine collects Algeria and her aim is to complete every Algerian Petite & Grand Chiffre and cds. cancels of every Algerian Office on different French stamps & covers if possible. She has been buying on Delcampe for 5 years since I recommended it to her and her collection has most probably increased 10 fold because of it (her finances most probably have decreased as well). She showed her collection last month at a club meeting and I was amazed by the improvement. The period up to about 1870 has increased from about 2 album pages to about 10,

David B.


Posted by chipmunkian   ( 333 ) on Apr-02-08 at 16:03:37 PDT   Listings
Jean-Pierre Rampal and Rudolf Nureyev have also appeared on the Muppet Show.

Martin
Posted by iomoon   ( 1064 ) on Apr-02-08 at 16:01:15 PDT   Listings
D2

Possibly the Seahorses to eradicate all those parcel cancels and poorly centered stamps.

Jeff

Any number of them - shrimp on the barbie :-)

BBQ'd emu, wallaby, roo, etc.

Not sure how to cook duck-billed platypus.

Then there's Melba toast, Peach Melba etc.

And who could forget vegemite?
Posted by afeht   ( 1305 ) on Apr-02-08 at 15:51:06 PDT   Listings
David,

Thank you for the links. I am sometimes too addicted to eBay to think about different venues.

Postalhysteria,

The one I bought for $5.50 was perf. 11 (supposed to be more expensive).

Due2,

The fact that you call these people "classical musicians" says it all. If Itzhac Perlman or Daniel Barenboim would appear on Sesame Street, then, maybe, I would scratch my pate. Musically, we are from different planets.
Posted by dbenson   ( 9019 ) on Apr-02-08 at 15:46:29 PDT   Listings
IO,

yes, Surface Printed will be the 1st. to be succumbed, although it could possibly be the KGV Hi Face Value, Seahorses & PUC One Pound.

David B.
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-02-08 at 15:39:15 PDT   Listings
afeht
Number one good centered quality stamps always bring a premium and have no relation ,imho, to the grading craze.
As part of the Sesame Street generation (really an Animanic) I ask you please do not disparage the gang.

most of the classical musicians of the last 50 years have sought them out to share their stage.
ex1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHr6GbWPBVQ alice Cooper

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4TRvYAyt3k&NR=1 johnny Cash

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhbxN4NO38k&feature=related
buddy rich

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yvHWyvexZA&feature=related
rita moreno

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBOohuZlAiM&feature=related harry belafonte

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmi1errwLvQ
shirley bassey

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjSjB-3xPVM&feature=related
julie andrews

Need i go on.


Posted by dbenson   ( 9019 ) on Apr-02-08 at 15:39:01 PDT   Listings
Alex,

good luck, hope you have the time,

http://timbres.delcampe.fr/list.php?language=F&searchString=algeri*&searchMode=all&searchTldCountry=fr&cat=-1&searchInDescription

14,200 Alegria items listed,

David B.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1064 ) on Apr-02-08 at 15:38:12 PDT   Listings
D2

I will not disagree with you.

Though at the moment I am unsure as to how the GB market will embrace grading.

I think, if anything, the surface-printed Victorian high values will fall first to the fad.

Gee, alliteration!
Posted by dbenson   ( 9019 ) on Apr-02-08 at 15:35:43 PDT   Listings
Due,

re your comment,

" But i looked at a couple of stamps where only 11 or so have been graded and what they have on their site
i have better examples of and I do not collect stamps ",

This is what graded stamps are all about, to get other opinions, you state that you have better but that is only your opinion and may be biased or using only one aspect whereas Graders use various aspects,

Postal, not really, there are a many Australian innovations but not any that I would call typical,

Alex, try any major dealer in France, they would have that item in stock or even try Delcampe, they have a lot of Algeria.

David B.

David B.

David B.
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 4095 ) on Apr-02-08 at 15:24:29 PDT   Listings

afeht - what about the one you bought for $5.50?
Posted by afeht   ( 1305 ) on Apr-02-08 at 15:16:39 PDT   Listings
Grading has many negative effects. A practical example:

I am missing one stamp in my otherwise complete collection of pre-independence Algeria, Scott #78 perf. 12-1/2, valued at $15. The slightly rarer perf. 11 I already have.

I've been waiting for this stamp to appear on eBay for some time. I would be satisfied with a lightly hinged or accurately canceled copy, average centering.

Bit no, the only one that appeared on eBat recently, had to be NH and ideally centered. So it went to some dude in Russia (not without my participation, out of curiosity) for $38!

I don't worry, I'll find it for $5 -- but it will take more time now, because of this grading craze.

P.S. If I were to say that I don't care for Sesame Street subculture, that I find flat bearded jokes about killing wives tasteless and boring, and that I don't consider such topics to be philatelic, would I be accused of "trolling" again? I am sure local everybody's bootlicker will find some cowardly way to insult me for this.
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 4095 ) on Apr-02-08 at 15:08:52 PDT   Listings

David - are there any dishes that are typically Australian?
Posted by dbenson   ( 9019 ) on Apr-02-08 at 15:07:15 PDT   Listings
IO,

that may be correct for 20th. Century issues but not for the earlier items, most of the graded are for better quality as the owner knows that damaged stamps submitted are going to get low grades and not worth submitting.

The Graded market hasn't hit GB yet but it will and will encompass 1d. Blacks but will be mainly focused on the later surface printed and Hi Value QV, KEVII & KGV issues. There is so much 4th. rate material being sold at high prices and will realise that 3rd. party grading is the only way to get the quality appraised,

David B.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1064 ) on Apr-02-08 at 14:52:35 PDT   Listings
If nothing else, the graded stamp issue is an interesting study of the economics of supply and demand.

Most of the stamps that have been sent for grading were issued in relatively large quantities, but, they have a relatively large speculative clientele, thus their prices rise.

On the other hand, stamps which were issued in relatively small quantities are rarely submitted for grading.

Mostly because their owners know their worth without having anyone else tell them.

How many MNH graded penny blacks are out there?



Is this pfishing week on eBay chatboards?
Posted by dbenson   ( 9019 ) on Apr-02-08 at 14:52:17 PDT   Listings
Due,

the census is a different aspect of the grading system. The main reason for grading is to get a 3rd. party opinion of the quality of a particular stamp in relationship to other examples. It stops the usage of hyperbole's and flowery descriptions to entice buyers and virtually guarantees the quality of the item without needing a 5 line auction description. Whether any collector accepts the idea or not is up to them but whether they agree to it or not, it ain't going to go away,

David B.
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-02-08 at 14:45:42 PDT   Listings
OK making me hungry

Dbenson
while not a proponet of grading I do admire the marketing.
IMHO the total census of stamps in many categories is too low to make a reasonable judgement on the market.
Zepps, (they have always had that cachet) and the truly rare stamps I understand and do not find fault with
whatever market you can Drum up.
But i looked at a couple of stamps where only 11 or so have been graded and what they have on their site
i have better examples of and I do not collect stamps. Nor do i wish, personally to ever have any in capsules
Mark em up , so you can mark em down.
Nor pay some one to call a stamp fat, jumbo whatever.

But we bottom feeders lnow so little, maybe with a ring in our nose we can be lead. Oops won't worl for me when i cane home years ago with a nose piercing, my Dad taught me the old saying " led by the nose"
it healed real well.
Just my 2c
Posted by iomoon   ( 1064 ) on Apr-02-08 at 14:39:55 PDT   Listings
Disclaimer.

Though I live in Scarsdale, I was not the owner of the Westchester set.

I collect neither airmails nor US stamps.

I do like Indonesian food though.
Posted by dbenson   ( 9019 ) on Apr-02-08 at 14:11:52 PDT   Listings
Gary, just checked, Soto Ayam (Chicken Soup without the Matzo Balls)

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 9019 ) on Apr-02-08 at 14:08:37 PDT   Listings
gary,

come here for a visit, we have Indonesian food almost every night, last night my wife made Beef Rendang, not sure what's on for tonight,

David B.
Posted by gary.nes   ( 15511 ) on Apr-02-08 at 13:59:26 PDT   Listings
See everybody tomorrow. Have to take the better half for Thai tonight. Wish we had Indonesian, been hankering for ricestaffel (sp?). I'm sure that can't be right...
Posted by gary.nes   ( 15511 ) on Apr-02-08 at 13:52:41 PDT   Listings
Jim

Those are called "traveling" sunglasses. That way whatever country you are in, a local can translate how to use them. I guess you can't go to Japan though.....No Pig Latin?

Gary

Posted by jaywild   ( 1066 ) on Apr-02-08 at 13:46:29 PDT   Listings
NOIP I got some sunglasses delivered today, and the product information leaflet was printed in, in addition to English
  • Italian
  • French
  • Spanish
  • Greek
  • Danish
  • Finnish
  • German
  • Portuguese
  • Dutch
  • Swedish
  • Chinese
  • Estonian
  • Slovak
  • Czech
  • Hungarian
  • Lithuanian
  • Turkish
  • Latvian
  • Russian
  • Slovenian
  • Polish
  • Bulgarian
  • Romanian
No Japanese, I see

Jim
Posted by gary.nes   ( 15511 ) on Apr-02-08 at 13:30:56 PDT   Listings
David,

I agree totally with modern grading..a total farce, and it has certainly "slowed" the market because of the controversy. Your premise of lower grade US, is a little off the mark. I sell tons of US "stellar stamps" in less than stellar quality. #1,2, $ value Columbians, Trans-Miss, Zepps etc. 10%-15% was typical. Now you do not get close. Any minor auction house in the US can confirm this. Stamps are appreciating in all categories, not just graded (although they probably have been the biggest percentage-wise, certainly press-wise!). Not a personal belief, just business. I have 100 customers that want a $1 Columbian, 99 will take a "front" at a fraction of cat. 1 wants VF/XF NH...go see Steve!

KL: Please don't go there...we are both on the same page!! I have bitten my tongue more than once in VSC...

BTW The Aussie States "proof" has a lot of watchers, you said it should do well...

Gary

Posted by dbenson   ( 9019 ) on Apr-02-08 at 13:23:51 PDT   Listings
Gary,

talking about KL, about a week ago on VSC he was ranting and raving about Ebay, he stated that all Ebay stamp buyers were bottom feeders, how is that for a generalisation, everyone knows it is only about 50%, the rest are serious buyers looking for material for their collections,

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 9019 ) on Apr-02-08 at 13:17:20 PDT   Listings
Gary, I know, I have been watching the Graded idea unfold over the past few years and have also been following Steve's & Ken's comments. It is a pity that a few got on the bandwagon with the grading of modern stamps and the hype that was involved. I think that most of the opponents of grading are those who have material that they are afraid to get graded as they will be disappointed in the results or from dealers who see low graded or ungraded depreciate in value whilst high graded appreciate as the demand increases.

David B.
Posted by gary.nes   ( 15511 ) on Apr-02-08 at 13:11:45 PDT   Listings
NOIP

From my wall of chuckles. An actual classified ad from 4/16/07 Linns. Email addy has been cropped.
Linns

David,

I know Steve very well. He has spent considerable $$ and time to build that business, in a storm of extreme opposition (a certain VSC member as I am sure you know), and succeeded. Not my field, never handled a graded stamp before, but he is the leader in that market.

Posted by postalhysteria   ( 4095 ) on Apr-02-08 at 12:55:48 PDT   Listings

David - I guess if one is to put a price on perfection, then that's a pretty good price. Jeff
Posted by dbenson   ( 9019 ) on Apr-02-08 at 12:39:51 PDT   Listings
There was a comment the other day about the drop in prices realised of US graded stamps, this may be an exception,

http://www.gradedstamps.com/welcome/news.php?

David B.
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-02-08 at 12:00:14 PDT   Listings
rule 74 Knowledge equals profit
Posted by jaywild   ( 1066 ) on Apr-02-08 at 11:39:42 PDT   Listings
VIRUS ALERT Got this from a very good source (ex-IBM guy) and also checked it out through Snopes.com.

If you get an email titled Mail Server Report DO NOT open it. It may even come addressed to your name (culled from computers already infected) and it may appear to come from a friend or directly from your email or ISP host.

Norton is working on it, I would advise doing manual updates throughout the day.

Jim
Posted by jaywild   ( 1066 ) on Apr-02-08 at 11:31:51 PDT   Listings
Jeff S I did get the Lincoln solo on eBay, but the seller did not realize it was a wet print. I am guessing he had some personal connection to it because he dated it to 1954, which means it had to be the wet print. I confirmed this with my trusty microscope once I received the card.

Here are some dry-printing earliest dates, compiled by Ken Lawrence
  • 3 sheet stamp, August 1956 [possibly earlier]
  • 3 booklet stamp, April 17 1956
  • 1 sheet stamp June 8 1956
  • 4 untagged sheet stamp July 3 1956
  • 3 large hole coil October 16 1956
  • 6 sheet stamp March 18 1957
  • 2 large hole coil May 13 1957
  • 30 sheet stamp May 29 1957
  • 1 large hole coil August 26 1957
  • 3 untagged small hole coil March 6 1958
  • 40 sheet stamp April 9 1958
  • $1 sheet stamp April 10 1958
  • 50 sheet stamp April 17 1958
  • sheet stamp May 12 1958
As you can see a lot more work remains to be done.

Jim
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-02-08 at 11:17:07 PDT   Listings
RA
Got me on the time frame, my parents to be nice are electic in their musical tastes.
Just like them I have music on anytime I am awake, I am just warming up o the Utube versions of many things, BUT i still like putting a stack of lp's on the old maganavox and not changing, or clicking anything for -3 hours.
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-02-08 at 11:14:00 PDT   Listings
jeffS just trying to get an idea , they need the endorsement on the envelope. I see a laundry basket of this stuff on a regular basis. will see if anything interesting (more than that dime item) in that basket.I have a tub of metered stuff, happened when i got an old Meter postmark book.
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 4095 ) on Apr-02-08 at 11:02:14 PDT   Listings

Jay-Jim - the 4c Liberty wet, did you recently get that on eBay, I recall a similar description but don't recall the image.

Guess I need to do some printing research.
Posted by gary.nes   ( 15511 ) on Apr-02-08 at 11:01:19 PDT   Listings
Jeff - I am not shocked. 1st pile I picked up. $9 is pretty much my min. Too much to do, so little time, etc. No sweat, I'm a learnin', plus I'm up to counting to 11 w/o taking off my shoes. Just happened this AM, can't wait for tomorrow...
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 676 ) on Apr-02-08 at 11:01:09 PDT   Listings
Pro That seems like long ago music. Saw him twice but can't even remember those songs.
Here's one from one of the most underrated bands ever. I usually listen to this song a couple times a day (as well as many of their others).
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 4095 ) on Apr-02-08 at 10:59:58 PDT   Listings

due2 - yep, but I have a half dozen of those from various pattern people. Thanks.

Posted by gary.nes   ( 15511 ) on Apr-02-08 at 10:57:45 PDT   Listings
Jeff - Smart a@# (grin), those I can handle actually. Haven't a clue what the Canadian thing is, w/o reading your desc. Bet it takes a lot of snooping to find something like that on the Bay and do so well on resell.
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 4095 ) on Apr-02-08 at 10:54:09 PDT   Listings

Gary - IMO your 1.25 and 2.5 are high by a factor of 3.
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-02-08 at 10:53:04 PDT   Listings
jeff
stuff like this
metered+contents
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 4095 ) on Apr-02-08 at 10:49:19 PDT   Listings

Gary - don't forget, small perf holes and large perf holes.
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 4095 ) on Apr-02-08 at 10:47:17 PDT   Listings

How do you make money on eBay?

You Buy

and you

Sell
Posted by gary.nes   ( 15511 ) on Apr-02-08 at 10:46:54 PDT   Listings
Ken

Looks like all carmine (shades there-of). Carmine-Lake is quite "deep". Best reference: 319f, keep one handy, it is an inexpensive stamp 30c used.

Gary

Posted by gary.nes   ( 15511 ) on Apr-02-08 at 10:44:41 PDT   Listings
Jim

You'll see a 2.5c on the Bay. I think I am biting off more than I can chew with these things.....Couldn't figure out how to merchandise them at shows (never really had any calls), now I am getting deeper and deeper on eBay...

Wet/dry, UV/non-UV, block tagging aaarrggghhh I'd rather light my hair on fire and try to put it out with a ballpeen hammer.. On cover? Fuggetaboutit.. Give me a pile of 1c blues I'll be in the corner looking for a #5 ;-)) You guys must have the patience of Job....
PEN - Don't hold your breath, ....but I shall try.

Jeff - neat stuff, I have no shred of relative scarcity (not suprising, huh?)- see above re:Job.

Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-02-08 at 10:44:38 PDT   Listings
KChrist
as a mostly colour blind person wish i could help.
I always thought (from reading ) that the real secret to colour reconition in the world of philately is to always remember that the second color in a hypened colour description is the dominate one, Not the first colour listed.
so when looking for Carmine-lake
it's the Lake colour that should be dominate.
roger how's that for no bangs on the return key
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-02-08 at 10:40:57 PDT   Listings
POPPADAWG

You said cookie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWac5UT80no&feature=related
Posted by poppadawg   ( 829 ) on Apr-02-08 at 10:35:03 PDT   Listings
NOIP: Never mind. Got it figured out. Matter of accepting a cookie.
Posted by jaywild   ( 1066 ) on Apr-02-08 at 10:33:19 PDT   Listings
A couple is married for forty-seven years. The wife dies. At the funeral, the pallbearers swing the coffin, which hits the wall. From inside the woman yells Oh my God! She lived another four years.

She died again. The pallbearers are swinging the coffin. The husband yells Watch out for that wall!

The New Yorker, Old Jewish Comedians

Jim
Posted by kchrist499   ( 1266 ) on Apr-02-08 at 10:33:03 PDT   Listings
First, many thanks to due2cents for directing me to the toolhaus site. It was extremely helpful.

Next I have another problem. Its about a US stamp, the 2 cent Washington coil issued in 1923-25, depending on type and color. I know the type of mine, but darned if I can figure out the color differences. If they are all carmine, they are fairly common. However, if one of the pairs happens to be carmine lake, it's value jumps considerably.

Please look at
these and give me your opinions: all carmine, one carmine lake?

Thanks! Ken C

Posted by postalhysteria   ( 4095 ) on Apr-02-08 at 10:32:38 PDT   Listings

Thanks Jim, floor sweepings to most. (grin)
Posted by jaywild   ( 1066 ) on Apr-02-08 at 10:21:25 PDT   Listings
Jeff S Very nice Liberty items!! You make me envious...

Jim
Posted by jaywild   ( 1066 ) on Apr-02-08 at 10:19:14 PDT   Listings
Gary Thanks. I appreciate your asking that fellow with all the paper. The PEN magazine for me is more nostalgia than anything else.

Here are a couple Liberty solosthe Bunker Hill coil precancel, and the only one of these I have ever seen, a solo use of the Lincoln 4 wet printing. The dry print came along in 1956, well before the first class rate was bumped up to 4, so there were very limited solo uses for the 4 Lincoln when it first was issued.

Jim
Posted by jaywild   ( 1066 ) on Apr-02-08 at 09:58:20 PDT   Listings
NOIP Speaking of Sesame Street, this was always a favorite.

In its early years SS was a place to find exquisite animation, clever skits, and of course the inimitable Grover

Jim
Posted by poppadawg   ( 829 ) on Apr-02-08 at 09:57:04 PDT   Listings
NOIP; Have they made some changes at Paypal? I usually transfer money from my Paypal account to my checking account. Now I cannot find a tab for that function. Am I missing something?
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-02-08 at 09:48:05 PDT   Listings
Mr EX PRES RA

your post last nite brought to mind

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j6_4A4VWIk&NR=1

my dad hums this all the time

but maybe you just need

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u846w66zTQ

my mom used to reccomend he try it.




Thanks JEFF
I see Now Thought it had been opened and then Redone.
guess I do Not need to show you my opened stamps..
Posted by re1wind   ( 284 ) on Apr-02-08 at 09:48:01 PDT   Listings
due2cents - Strangely enough I have a copy of that 1928 catalog and a 1940 Hoover Catalog. The 1940 Hoover is still the standard for Washington/Franklin precancel collectors, seems to be the most comprehesive one out there, so I've been told. They are nice catalogs to have but I use the T&T and Buro catalogs on CD. So I did upgrade my reference library to CD, but still like to refer to the catalogs published before my time. Way before my time....way way before my time! :-)
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 4095 ) on Apr-02-08 at 09:35:06 PDT   Listings

I think so, the stamp was cut around and not slit, as long as it is not slit I would take it.

Also, I note I don't have an example of the small 2.5c precan envelope, nor do I have a local precan coil.
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-02-08 at 09:31:19 PDT   Listings
http://www.postalhysteria.net/stampchat/5615.jpg
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 4095 ) on Apr-02-08 at 09:26:28 PDT   Listings

I am interested any any bulk rate meter mail if they still have the contents.

the bridge on that "New added" card
is that acceptable for showing.I don't understand the question.
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-02-08 at 09:21:39 PDT   Listings
heck jeff I did not know you liked meters too
i have a big tub o that stuff

the bridge on that "New added" card
is that acceptable for showing.
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 4095 ) on Apr-02-08 at 09:16:03 PDT   Listings

As I have said before I am a big fan of third class mail. Here are some examples of my 2.5c material.

2.5c stamps, sheet and coil, not precanceled

2.5c local precancel sheet stamp, self mailer w/ BRM card

2c + half-cent local precancels

5 half cent precancels, Look Magazine mail

pairs of 1.25c precancels

2.5c precanceled PSEs

2.5c permit, forwarded at first class rate

2.5c meter mail with contents

Lower value meters uprated to 2.5 cents

I left out the 2.5c precanceled coils. Hope I did it correctly.
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-02-08 at 09:12:08 PDT   Listings
how about the Smashing Pumkins for the younger crowd

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_k-qhPkkwY&feature=related
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-02-08 at 08:52:21 PDT   Listings
Can you picture that

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoKFBjd5-F8&NR=1
Posted by gary.nes   ( 15511 ) on Apr-02-08 at 08:40:06 PDT   Listings
With apologies to the fairer sex...you can change the punchline.

A man with a gun went into a bank and demanded their money.
Once he was given the money, he turned to a customer and asked,...
"Did you see me rob this bank?"
The man replied,... "Yes sir, I did."
The robber then shot him in the temple,... killing him instantly.
He then turned to a couple standing next to him and asked the man,...
"Did you see me rob this bank?"
The man replied,... "No sir,... I did not,... but my wife did."

Posted by afeht   ( 1305 ) on Apr-02-08 at 08:25:37 PDT   Listings
Re: Touva

Can't find a decent collection of Tannu Touva lately -- anywhere. In October-November of the last year there were quite a few on eBay. Some countries and topics seem to seasonally disappear.
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-02-08 at 08:24:26 PDT   Listings
Gary purchased for the effort.
he did get better.besides maybe a good perfin
m one day i'll find out.

NOIP
wonder ifin any o the numbers in this Directory are still ringable.
Inaug
Posted by gary.nes   ( 15511 ) on Apr-02-08 at 08:18:41 PDT   Listings
Jeff - I heard a rumor that a single 8c Prexie was getting listed on the Bay today....not the rate you're huntin' tho...

Due2 No offense, but your daughter would not be fooled by that! Maybe PC people think a stamp helps...stamp people must be dumb if they don't look at the pretty picture first...
I have a "closet" perfin collector, has a box in my shop I fill up as I find them.

Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-02-08 at 07:51:16 PDT   Listings
GAWG
not yet but getting closer
did find this
First-day-776
figured you may already have one.


Gary
Here is an example of a faked postcard
dealer (antique store) sees me 2 or 3 times do a quick stop to ceheck his postcards,
Finally asks What is it youlook for.
I have a pretty pat speil, i give it while looking.
low and behold next time I'm there in his Shop
5 or 6 things I look for
Perfins-on-postcards

Re1Wind
guess I need to update my reference shelf a little.
Older-book

ZEPP Surely there exists out there in the Ether more thoughts on this Item. Climb down the ladder .

I hold the bottom steady.
Posted by alexiosp   ( 262 ) on Apr-02-08 at 07:41:46 PDT   Listings
DUE2
the lack of arrival b/s is annoying indeed, but I have seen 2-3 items of this period to USA w/o arrival. I think the point that will determine if this is genuine is postage. As soon as I get an answer I will let you know.

BTW, in all other respects the cover is genuine (correctly examined by greek customs, the Dobrowolski correspondence is quite frequently met, Thessaloniki airmail cancellations in good order)
Posted by gary.nes   ( 15511 ) on Apr-02-08 at 07:30:52 PDT   Listings
Hey Jeff - wacky, wacky...tell me about it. Had plenty of NARU's, but never one that scam sold and then starting buying....guess he needed to raise some cash first....

Alexios - I really didn't count the posatge, just took a quick peek. I get lost if I have to take my shoes off to count over 10 :-)

Gary

Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-02-08 at 07:25:56 PDT   Listings
alex

the response below showing the cover as UNDERPaid
is what I thought
, Altho i have no way to look up he greek rates other than a handful of greek stuff lying around.
Nice Clear strikes in opportune places on otherwise low end material
always makes me go Hmmmmmmmmm.

Not that I would not buy that for 2 bucks (pencilprice on the cover) But
the bell (ding ding ding) for me was no recieving mark.
Not that i am an expert (far,far from it)
I have a few Zepp pieces and even the postcards have a recieving mark. US incoming
Posted by alexiosp   ( 262 ) on Apr-02-08 at 07:21:34 PDT   Listings
ZEPPELIN COVER

Knuden: many thanks for your info! Good to hear from you.

Gary: Bennet's lot 1115 pays the same minimum airmail rate of 18 drs (I think there's a 1dr airmail stamp affixed at the back). Will check with a friend who is an expert in greek airmails and will let you all know. Thanks for your thoughts!
Posted by knuden   ( 2417 ) on Apr-02-08 at 07:13:13 PDT   Listings
Alexios - According to my Sieger cat. from 2001, it's Z437 and there is no mention of a Greek connection.

K.E  I'm a catalog King, Expert and Philatelist - whoopee!!
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 4095 ) on Apr-02-08 at 07:08:07 PDT   Listings

Mornin' Gary - its a wacky, wacky world at eBay, just glad I have not had any probs like that. Jeff
Posted by gary.nes   ( 15511 ) on Apr-02-08 at 06:54:47 PDT   Listings
Alexios

BTW Seiger # is 437, I have an old one only shows 65DM, never got around to buying a new one.

Posted by gary.nes   ( 15511 ) on Apr-02-08 at 06:51:33 PDT   Listings
Alexios

I am by no means an expert on Greek rates or Zepps, but yours seems severely underpaid compared to the Bennett links. I don't see anything wrong with the cover, just the postage looks short...

.NOIP

Odd start today. Couple lots sold in my store and I tried to send an invoice through eBay. They blocked it because the user is NARUed. Checked his FB, 11 negs in the past week or so for over $10,000 worth of lots he sold. Turns out he was using a 2001 Feldman Swiss auction for his pictures....then starts buying stuff? How screwed up are these people? geesh, now I have to do FVF's, relist, PITA.

Gary

Posted by alexiosp   ( 262 ) on Apr-02-08 at 06:36:14 PDT   Listings
due2

Just to help a bit, covers from the 1st and 3rd North American Flights of 1936 are recorded, just see lots 1114 & 1115:

http://www.bennettstamps.com/cgi-bin/viewchap.pl?site=1&sale=277&chapter=36&page=1&lang=1

I have also seen a perfectly commercial cover from Athens to Argentina carried on the 1934 special Christmas flight.

Alexios
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-02-08 at 06:26:56 PDT   Listings
HERE ARE ALEXIOSP's Scans

Front

Back


IMHO the Cachet and the Berlin backstamp were added to this item BUT I could be wrong
I hope someone can answer this for sure.

I can not understand how or why a Greek airmail item
would be routed thru the Zepp system
I think a way for a dealer to turn a nickel into 2 dollars ink was cheap.

WHAT SAY YOU.
Corrections actively sought.
Posted by gary.nes   ( 15511 ) on Apr-02-08 at 06:23:40 PDT   Listings
Good Day

This is turning into the Prexie board.....

Jim

Can't help you with the magazine, but I do have a guy that has the strangest paper material for stock. I see him next month and will ask, if anyone can help, he is the guy.

2.5c: I didn't think they were very good, but like you said, I can't remember the last time I had one in my paws. For something that was used so heavily, it seems they should everywhere.

thebriguy1

Don't know which is more harrowing: the clothes you were wearing or the emergency room visit :-))Heck on a slow news day, you may of made CNN in this world we live in ;-)With a big 'ol microphone in your face: "NO,they are stamp tongs. I use them to play with my stamps....ohhh just forget it.." Limping off red-faced.

due2

I slipped your tongs back when I gave that poor lizard a decent burial yesterday, don't think I am going to do it again though....I'm a hoarder you know..

Gary

Posted by alexiosp   ( 262 ) on Apr-02-08 at 06:12:59 PDT   Listings

scans duly sent!
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-02-08 at 06:04:07 PDT   Listings
check your ebay messages Alex
Posted by alexiosp   ( 262 ) on Apr-02-08 at 05:49:41 PDT   Listings
due2cents

how do I attach a scan here? or you cound send me your email address.
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-02-08 at 05:43:51 PDT   Listings
the great Peter Lorre

was into stamps

seen here
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Y9tT-kPBe4Q
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-02-08 at 05:37:57 PDT   Listings
Alexiosp

Is your cover noted as a Z-240 flight

I can find No mention of the Sept 1936 flight to North America as having any Greek connection.
have a scan.
or photo
or describe the Cover / card
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1509 ) on Apr-02-08 at 05:37:50 PDT   Listings
Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all

Jim L.
member
Posted by alexiosp   ( 262 ) on Apr-02-08 at 05:20:03 PDT   Listings
due2cents
thanks for the rapid reply! is Z-420 the listing for Greece? Whats the price quoted?
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-02-08 at 05:16:48 PDT   Listings
for those that are into Pristine gum

http://youtube.com/watch?v=D2wme1Uhyhg
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-02-08 at 05:15:03 PDT   Listings
alexiosp

would that be the Z-420
Posted by alexiosp   ( 262 ) on Apr-02-08 at 05:06:27 PDT   Listings
ZEPPELIN QUESTION!

Hi all! Can anyone tell me if there is a listing for Greece for the 8th North American Flight(17 Sep 1936)according to Sieger or Michel zeppelin catalogues?

Many thanks!
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Apr-02-08 at 05:03:31 PDT   Listings
TONGS RUN WILD ---------even gold plated tongs in leather case ...... some of them .....paul
Posted by stamps-4-ever   ( 150 ) on Apr-02-08 at 04:30:54 PDT   Listings
Regarding the Hong Kong 1938 Provisional use 5 cent duty stamp which was only use for a shor time, was this only for local use or was it also used for foreign use.
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-02-08 at 03:11:43 PDT   Listings
My tongs mysteriosly
reappeared
I do NOt think it had anything to do with mentioneing it to a certain
seven year old I know.
Posted by dragonstamps   ( 501 ) on Apr-01-08 at 22:03:33 PDT   Listings
I can't find my favorite tongs.
I'm back to using the ones I started out with.
They work.

I've lost at least 2 tongs so far, though I can't explain how.
I don't like thinking that anyone would take them, so I must have lost them.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 676 ) on Apr-01-08 at 21:57:41 PDT   Listings
Briguy I take insult of your post!
Here are my 4 sets of stamp tongs (yes, I can find them all).
I keep one on the computer desk, one on my stamp room desk and the other two in desk drawers. My favorite one is the best tooth picker. Only woosey boys use paddle tongs. Are you trying to paddle up the Amazon? Had them when I was a kid. It took a little rethinking but after 25 years of pointies, the others really suck.
Posted by jaywild   ( 1066 ) on Apr-01-08 at 21:19:39 PDT   Listings
Hail to the cheese Heres another version. You have to watch it to the very end

Jim
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 676 ) on Apr-01-08 at 21:00:32 PDT   Listings
Jeff I had the same problem with a starter for my Kubota tractor/mower. It was a grey market item and I could not find it anywhere. Finally my father found one on ebay for $35.00. Moral to the story is have patience and seek the ebay for your need, it will appear in time.
However, truth is something you may not find on ebay.
I was thinking about offering it but it seems new rules prohibit digitally delivered items.
I'm really not kidding, I would never do so on such an important issue. All you think you know is crap!!!
Unknow and find truth.
I'm in the middle of a more than philosophical coonversation at the moment. Also have a $700 stamp soaking that I need to retrieve.

Life and the secrets of the universe are so much more simple than the human mind has any business messing with.
No kiddin....................
Posted by thebriguy1   ( 64 ) on Apr-01-08 at 20:49:23 PDT   Listings
Ahhh yes, the annual tong/tweezer topic.

Near and dear to my heart, and shockingly......almost to my manhood!

Been a while since I had the chance to delve into a bit of self depricating humor. Good humor you'd better have, if you happen to be the only philatlist you know of, who was rushed to the hospital following a horrific tong accident.

I was a teenager. It was the 70's. An era when young men wore really tight jeans, with 3 inch "man heels" graced by faux aligator skin pattens,...in fashionable brown!

Wandering around the local bourse, I'd forgotten I'd slid my trusty tongs into my front pocket, then bent over reflexively to pick up a dropped stamp. Oh yeah. They went right into my thigh, very deep and very NEAR that most cherished of all male parts. It was bad, but not nearly as bad as ending up in the emergency room for medical treatment and the requisite tetnus shot. There I was, resplendent in my 70's garb, bleeding profusely from a 2" deep hole in my upper thigh, a pimple faced teen -- being told to strip out of my pants by a very good looking 20-something nurse. Somehow in my dreams, that first time disrobing on command for an attractive woman, had always played out quite a bit differently. :o(

And now you know why I'll ONLY use paddle type tongs. Heck, even toothpicks scare me. :o)
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 4095 ) on Apr-01-08 at 20:19:02 PDT   Listings

P-O Point of Order. So official sounding.

Still online looking for a generator for my tractor. Froze up this evening. New one doesn't appear to be outlandish.

1.5 + 5 would be ordinary third class with 5c insurance. Don't have one with coil franking. How about a solo 8c paying double weight third class + insurance. Sweet dreams Jeff.............
Posted by lluehhhb   ( 361 ) on Apr-01-08 at 20:13:43 PDT   Listings
jajajaja

Thank you pro for the music, it gave me a really good laugh!
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-01-08 at 20:11:37 PDT   Listings
Sorry

Forgot we are an international board for a momment

I give you appropriate music

http://youtube.com/watch?v=tsxQ8n8JLgk
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-01-08 at 20:08:41 PDT   Listings
and the appropriate music

http://youtube.com/watch?v=jHfryl9gEf4
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-01-08 at 20:06:35 PDT   Listings
all hail the chief
Posted by lluehhhb   ( 360 ) on Apr-01-08 at 20:05:48 PDT   Listings
Hi everybody,

Excuse me for being late, but I've had some terrible days at work and I don't fell really well phisically.

As the new President, I'd like to thank Mitch for the last year work at the charge. Also, thanks for all the support in the election!

I have plans to start with a poll to the eusc members about diverse matters. But first I need to recover myself!

I'll be absent for the rest of the week I think, but I'll be back with news for everyone.

Thanks!
Milenko.
Posted by due2cents   ( 27 ) on Apr-01-08 at 20:00:35 PDT   Listings
1.5 prexies on cover ifin they were worth anything I'd be in hawaii harassing the Razor man.

Kathmoon or any regular/lurker/semi regular
or just a reader of this post.
Need scans linked message me.


Out with the Old Prez and In with the New.
Now maybe under new leadership even I could be enticed to join :-}




















APRIL FOOL
I am not a joiner
just an occassional coupler
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 676 ) on Apr-01-08 at 19:58:08 PDT   Listings
P-O ?
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 676 ) on Apr-01-08 at 19:47:02 PDT   Listings
Jeff Sounds to be worth the bother of listing.
Actually, I have several 1 1/2 prexies on cover. Can't recall the 5 cent combo though. I guess I should double check as you seem to infer a great value there.
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 4087 ) on Apr-01-08 at 19:42:17 PDT   Listings

P-O, you ain't prez no more!
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 4087 ) on Apr-01-08 at 19:41:19 PDT   Listings

Time for lights out, see you all in the am.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 676 ) on Apr-01-08 at 19:41:10 PDT   Listings
Jeff I would be remiss if I did not inform you that it is against the rules to post personal information on an a ebay chat board. <:~`)
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 4087 ) on Apr-01-08 at 19:40:41 PDT   Listings

Not to just waste a post below, anyone is welcome to send me checks whether thy bought anything or not!
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 4087 ) on Apr-01-08 at 19:38:18 PDT   Listings

Domestic air, I would guess would bring $20 in theBay.

Wouldn't happen to have a 1.5 + a 5?

grin
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 4087 ) on Apr-01-08 at 19:36:46 PDT   Listings
crap - doing 2 things at one time!
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 676 ) on Apr-01-08 at 19:33:39 PDT   Listings
Jeff Thanks for the response. this is the one I thought might be the better. Seems I cropped the top a bit but the item is solid with top intack.
Quantos pesos? Dollars better??
Posted by jaywild   ( 1065 ) on Apr-01-08 at 19:32:19 PDT   Listings
Mitch… Yep, I agree with Jeff S. 5¢ prexy coils solo usage are not easy to find. I have one sent to Scotland, miserable centering but correct solo rate.

Jim
Posted by kathmoon   ( 500 ) on Apr-01-08 at 19:17:38 PDT   Listings
due2cents: thanks for linking my scans.
Matt in Arizona: thanks for your input. I have about 55 of them. Nick
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1509 ) on Apr-01-08 at 19:17:30 PDT   Listings
Let me add another “Many Thanks to the outgoing President Mitchell (Antonius-Ra) and congratulations on a job well done!”

Jim L.
member